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Ok Mr. Man it's on! :) Great run btw.bensweeneyonbass Today, 02:50 AM
I did not vote accept for that reason. I do not personally like leeching but it is a rule unable to be properly administered without quantification. I don't like the idea of subjective rules when the voting body is dynamic.ssdninja Today, 05:30 AM
[QUOTE=PJ DiCesare;789889]Ok.....so first off, this run was done in 2009. That is 6.5 years ago. For direct video submission back then, you didn't need to physically show the console booting up, you just needed to show the actual bootup in the video, which is still there.
Second of all, if you think you can't simply gut a RetroN or hack an SNES and put it inside another SNES, you are sorely mistaken. Physically showing a console does
At the time any given submission is in the queue, the available features are finalised for that poll. There's no point hinting at a future feature when the given tools and incentives are all we have to work with. One of the missing features are links to elements of rules under which the scores on the scoreboard has been governed.
It's not in relation to the specific score but is an indicator that should there have been
I agree on both points. Thats why the rules shouldn't just be implied - but I've stressed that point enough already
This is what I have a problem with. TG has adopted the old variations and every score listed with under them. They have absolutely no right to arbitrarily choose what rules they adopt alongside the tracks. The rules come with the tracks. They are the same entity.
New variations, do what you please. Old ones,
Typo above...lessin, lesson...he he
Here is a great example to underline exactly what I mean about implied rules and miscommunication, which only leads to inevitable failure of TG itself....
This is one of my all-time favorite quotes-
In the 1976 movie The Bad News Bears
This is so simple.....the rule set as it stands on its own doesn't give a reason to reject the recent submission.
It is not fair to assume a new submitter should know implied rules.
Jace seems to be making it clear that old rule sets won't be updated for proper clarity of past implied guidelines.
Therefore the new and old scores both fit this particular rule set.
When I went to college years ago, i had no understanding
Yes and some of the "evidence" was the original submitter claiming the original 1st place score leeched. That has been proven false and therefore the evidence has changed. If he knew this beforehand he would not have submitted, at least not using the same scoring method.
I will await this
The system does not work that way.
The score claim was presented with whatever evidence the submitter wanted to provide.
Adjudicators reviewed all the evidence in whatever manner they saw fit to do so. The score claim was discussed, and plenty of time was allotted for review.
The score was accepted on the merits that were presented.
The score cannot get randomly pulled off the scoreboard, "re-voted"
I think we all agree that the score should be at the very least put to another vote.Barra Today, 03:33 AM
Some adjudicators may have voted accept because they were under the impression that the previous score used similiar "leeching" tactics but others accepted the score for other reasons such as me and patrick maher. We accepted the score because we feel that "leeching" should be legalized.Jesse Porter Today, 03:04 AM
I disagree: there is no incentive to adjudicate correctly for the majority of users. Most users are here to participate in gaming and the voting system is just another game to earn points on with any care for the consequences being [akin to] the Bystander Effect.Barthax Today, 12:28 AM
I'm not surprised but a lot happens while I'm asleep! :)
Thank you, PJ & zallard.
Thank you very much for this post, Megaretroman. Definitely respect it. ^_^ Apology very much accepted.
I'm aware that you personally weren't being serious, but many many others on this site are very serious about the same thing and I am forced to respond to it in that manner, especially in a situation like this. :/ It is a pain but that's where TG is right now.
Edit: For some reason it
If people didn't blindly vote on what the submitter claimed about PJ's score, I'm sure the outcome would have been different - this is what we need to look at.Barra Yesterday, 10:55 PM
I'm not sure the video needs to be pulled, I just waned it reevaluated. If the community wants to accept leeching, thats their choice, and I can see some logic to it. My big issue though, wasnt that leeching was accepted, but rather WHY it was accepted. One person made a wild guess (for which he has now apologized, thank you) and everyone just assumed the wild guess must be true instead of doing their own research. I cant be a part of every submissionSnowflake Yesterday, 10:52 PM
I at least thought you would get I wasn't being serious about the rejected post. I was more poking fun at the issues we have been experiencing beyond this. All I'm saying (and a few others honestly) is stop being so damn serious and just play video games.Desidious Yesterday, 10:49 PM
Glad I was able to see this video finally.
I have no problems in admitting I was wrong and I am very willing to say that here.
I'm sorry that this has created such a mess that it has been taken this far. As I've stated to others, I made this video with no ill-intent. What I thought was right turns out was wrong. For that I give to everyone my sincerest apologies, especially PJ. He didn't have to do what he did, and I praise
Ok.....so first off, this run was done in 2009. That is 6.5 years ago. For direct video submission back then, you didn't need to physically show the console booting up, you just needed to show the actual bootup in the video, which is still there.
Second of all, if you think you can't simply gut a RetroN or hack an SNES and put it inside another SNES, you are sorely mistaken. Physically showing a console does absolutely nothing to
I could see that. Wasn't really referring to your post negatively at all, but it would be nice to see some resolve here and moving on into the futureDeuceler Yesterday, 10:16 PM
I took Jace's response as a "this video doesn't change anything" - so my thinking was the only way it will be pulled is if the gamer requests so. (sorry a little off topic here)Barra Yesterday, 10:15 PM
I don't know that the gamer needs to come forth and admit wrong doings when the evidence is clear as day. I get bothered by the "Well, that was a mistake - we'll fix it next time." attitude when it can be handled right away with some common sense.Deuceler Yesterday, 10:12 PM
The gamer needs to do what is right. Come forward and admit you were wrong and get the score pulled. After that we can all go on our merry way. Any further claims of impossible scores without proof will be directed to this thread.
I'll always vote with the leeching rules in mind, and just hope I am in the majority.