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05-12-2017 at 05:08 PM

Dear Community,

Adding new gaming platforms to the database requires a certain amount of resources (for instance we need to create all the icons/art.) Due to this, we only add platforms periodically.

We have now come to the time where we can add some platforms and so we wanted to reach out and get some suggestions!

Other than the Nintendo Switch, what new platforms would you like to see added?

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Steam touts itself as a platform, even though it is simply a digital distribution model. If it was a true platform, all games would work on it regardless of the hardware underneath. You can port games from one computer to another, as long as it is the same type of computer. You can't port your games installed on a PC to a Mac for example. And how many games will it run on Linux?

I blame Steam for the confustion. They want to be seen as a platform.

And let's be clear Steam is amazing. I love steam.
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Quote Originally Posted by datagod
Steam touts itself as a platform, even though it is simply a digital distribution model. If it was a true platform, all games would work on it regardless of the hardware underneath. You can port games from one computer to another, as long as it is the same type of computer. You can't port your games installed on a PC to a Mac for example. And how many games will it run on Linux?

I blame Steam for the confustion. They want to be seen as a platform.

And let's be clear Steam is amazing. I love steam.
no to be clear. Give me steam!

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Hi Timmel / Jace

This is not entirely true. Quite a few publishers NOW publish/release games on Steam is exactly the same on PC or Linux. Steam is the platform engine. It is like having a Virtual machine (PC or Max Or Linux) running another VM (Steam) inside itself. Lot of publishers write /code the game exactly the same it is possible because - STEAM act as the platform - as the games are the same in those cases. I can install STEAM on Linux and run a game bought on my Windows PC. Steam is changing and have changed quite alot since last year till this year. They encourage game publishers to make their game multi compatible across hardware using the same engine - STEAM.

Please re-look at steam as a platform - contact Steam support or their Director for details how "the author/the creator" see STEAM. Let us rather ask them will STEAM ever evolve to a 100% virtual platform for all STEAM games?

That depends upon a lot of things but mostly is the game based upon a windows based
API like DirectX or more cross platform graphics engine which will always work on PC's
running STEAM regardless the OS?

Quote Originally Posted by timmell
IMO, Steam is a delivery service of software, not a platform. PC or mac is the Hardware that you play on. And if the game is available for both PC and Mac on steam. Those games are coded different on each "platform" PC or Mac. so the gameplay could be different. For example Pinball Arade for MAC is not the same game as Pinball Arcade on PC.

Cause I have it on both and the game is actually played on the same "hardware" (computer). Mac Pro 3,1. But since it is coded different, play not the same depending what OS I use.
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Question what about these two:


A: I-CADE Cabinets but using IPAD
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https://www.ionaudio.com/products/details/icade
Is this adding to the IPAD/IOS platform as a control OR is this regarded as a seperate platform?

B: I-CADE - Raspberry
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Same here - Jace listed Raspberry PI as a platform but most probably will run MAME
as the Emulation Station : http://blog.petrockblock.com/retropie/
See full details here:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Bart...-and-Customis/

So are these then regarded as EMUs? or a seperate MAME type category. This is then in contrast with wolfmame as the MAME software rule.

??
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Add also :
ICADE PCB

Here in arcades quite a few places do ICADE PCB cabinets multi 60-1 ones
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Quote Originally Posted by francoisadt
Hi Timmel / Jace

This is not entirely true. Quite a few publishers NOW publish/release games on Steam is exactly the same on PC or Linux. Steam is the platform engine. It is like having a Virtual machine (PC or Max Or Linux) running another VM (Steam) inside itself. Lot of publishers write /code the game exactly the same it is possible because - STEAM act as the platform - as the games are the same in those cases. I can install STEAM on Linux and run a game bought on my Windows PC. Steam is changing and have changed quite alot since last year till this year. They encourage game publishers to make their game multi compatible across hardware using the same engine - STEAM.

Please re-look at steam as a platform - contact Steam support or their Director for details how "the author/the creator" see STEAM. Let us rather ask them will STEAM ever evolve to a 100% virtual platform for all STEAM games?

That depends upon a lot of things but mostly is the game based upon a windows based
API like DirectX or more cross platform graphics engine which will always work on PC's
running STEAM regardless the OS?
bless you for understanding. Somebody who gets it.
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Quote Originally Posted by francoisadt
Hi Timmel / Jace

This is not entirely true. Quite a few publishers NOW publish/release games on Steam is exactly the same on PC or Linux. Steam is the platform engine. It is like having a Virtual machine (PC or Max Or Linux) running another VM (Steam) inside itself. Lot of publishers write /code the game exactly the same it is possible because - STEAM act as the platform - as the games are the same in those cases. I can install STEAM on Linux and run a game bought on my Windows PC. Steam is changing and have changed quite alot since last year till this year. They encourage game publishers to make their game multi compatible across hardware using the same engine - STEAM.

Please re-look at steam as a platform - contact Steam support or their Director for details how "the author/the creator" see STEAM. Let us rather ask them will STEAM ever evolve to a 100% virtual platform for all STEAM games?

That depends upon a lot of things but mostly is the game based upon a windows based
API like DirectX or more cross platform graphics engine which will always work on PC's
running STEAM regardless the OS?
Francois,

As someone who has developed numerous video games across numerous platforms (see partial/inaccurate list here: http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,8920/ )
I can assure you that Steam is not considered a gaming platform, operating system or Virtual Machine.

Your installation on Linux example is misleading and breaks down severely on many technical levels, however I will no longer try to argue this matter as it is pointless. Steam is not a gaming platform any more than GOG, ORIGIN, or GREEN MAN GAMING are, they are software distribution platforms.

More info here:
https://www.polygon.com/2016/12/23/1...m-alternatives
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Quote Originally Posted by francoisadt
Question what about these two:


A: I-CADE Cabinets but using IPAD
============================
https://www.ionaudio.com/products/details/icade
Is this adding to the IPAD/IOS platform as a control OR is this regarded as a seperate platform?

B: I-CADE - Raspberry
====================
Same here - Jace listed Raspberry PI as a platform but most probably will run MAME
as the Emulation Station : http://blog.petrockblock.com/retropie/
See full details here:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Bart...-and-Customis/

So are these then regarded as EMUs? or a seperate MAME type category. This is then in contrast with wolfmame as the MAME software rule.

??
A: I-CADE falls under the iOS platform.

B: I-CADE falls under the Raspberry platform.

Currently on TG, the MAME category specifically requires WolfMAME which is centered on PC. This may need to get moved underneath PC - and in fact every platform might need to carry the appropriate EMU section underneath. But that is a more complicated issue to work on and not part of this thread...
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Retron 5 Not sure if that qualifys but I use it alot to play my games
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One more idea. What about "miscellaneous" that would help find the platforms people really care about and the worthwhile ones could be split off
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Thanks for your clear answers Jace.

Question on EMUs. You have listed this as "one" item on your list but similarly the EMU for Atari 2600 is not the same as the EMU for Atari 5200, EMU Atari 7800, EMU NES, EMU SNES, EMU Commodare-64. Here each one emulating different hardware so each one should be a seperate platform? The games are also different across the platform the EMU software represent.
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For Raspberry platform to have the same integrity than PC/Wolfmame, one could surely just have a recompiled version of WolfMAME for Raspberry and for ICADE cabinets?

Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall
A: I-CADE falls under the iOS platform.

B: I-CADE falls under the Raspberry platform.

Currently on TG, the MAME category specifically requires WolfMAME which is centered on PC. This may need to get moved underneath PC - and in fact every platform might need to carry the appropriate EMU section underneath. But that is a more complicated issue to work on and not part of this thread...
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Quote Originally Posted by Bishop
Retron 5 Not sure if that qualifys but I use it alot to play my games
Yes we will add Retron....
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Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall
Yes we will add Retron....
Wait what, am I missing something? Retron is a 3rd party console, not a platform.
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Quote Originally Posted by sdwyer138
Wait what, am I missing something? Retron is a 3rd party console, not a platform.
IMO, I would consider any score on the Retron 5 a Emulation score. Cause I thought the Hardware in the Retron 5 Emulates the original hardware? Retron 5 just copies the ROM of the original cart for gameplay. Am I wrong?
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Quote Originally Posted by timmell
IMO, I would consider any score on the Retron 5 a Emulation score. Cause I thought the Hardware in the Retron 5 Emulates the original hardware? Retron 5 just copies the ROM of the original cart for gameplay. Am I wrong?
That's my understanding.
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Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall
Yes we will add Retron....
How would we then classify RetroUSB's AVS system? I wound't say its emulation, as it runs original carts, controllers, ect / but it uses an FPGA instead of the the original hardware to clone the NES system at a hardware level.

If anything, I'd like to see it have scores on the same board as NES legacy submissions, but that's a pipe dream! :)
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Everdrive and SD on Raspberry PI is the same
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Oh shoot. I hope I'm not too late.
Bandai Playdia
Bandai Wonderswan
Famicom Disc System
Tiger Handhelds (No joke. I've got scores ready to go on 4 different games)
Plug & Play

Thanks.
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What about games that are played inside Facebook? Everquest is fun, played by 7 million people on any device.

I play on PC and Android Phone. Is Facebook the platform?

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