LOL_LOL_LOL

If Ben can't figure it out no-one can.

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As a side note, calling the record the "first official speedrun" is, well, silly.

The game is scored on the completion time. That's the way it's done. That's not really a speedrun - those are for optional ways to play. If that's a speedrun, then, well, then speedruns are at least as old as the first Olympiad.

But it's awesome to see Ben Heck on this, and if anyone can get to the bottom of it, he can.

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it very well may well be the first VIDEO game speed run GAME that allowed a game based on time depending upon what games were released.....

This may be false it IS for sure ONE of the first speed runs ever for SURE

[QUOTE=GibGirl;bt12063]As a side note, calling the record the "first official speedrun" is, well, silly.

The game is scored on the completion time. That's the way it's done. That's not really a speedrun - those are for optional ways to play. If that's a speedrun, then, well, then speedruns are at least as old as the first Olympiad.

You are one to also frown upon perfect and max scores, lets do this get some up here on recording than talk !!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by GibGirl

As a side note, calling the record the "first official speedrun" is, well, silly.

The game is scored on the completion time. That's the way it's done. That's not really a speedrun - those are for optional ways to play. If that's a speedrun, then, well, then speedruns are at least as old as the first Olympiad.

But it's awesome to see Ben Heck on this, and if anyone can get to the bottom of it, he can.

it gets sillier than that. an even more similiar analogy is superman for the atari vcs also only tracks time, since well,superman is invincible, he cant lose, the only question is how long it takes. so you have two games for the same system, both track time to completion, and superman came out a year before dragster.
also superman is an awesome game whereas dragster sucks, but i digress

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there is a fixed version of Superman now bin

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oh and dont forget even earlier than that release titles --1977 racing indy 500 which tracks time for a car to complete a race.

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According to my recollection, Omnigamer came across Dragster in his background research on the roots of speedruning. Dragster stood out as possibly the first speed run (if one is looking for earliest antecedents) not simply because it was timed, but more to the fact that Todd claimed to have used an exploit in the game that allowed him to achieve a better time/result than the developer's perfect game ("man vs computer")

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Originally Posted by The Evener

According to my recollection, Omnigamer came across Dragster in his background research on the roots of speedruning. Dragster stood out as possibly the first speed run (if one is looking for earliest antecedents) not simply because it was timed, but more to the fact that Todd claimed to have used an exploit in the game that allowed him to achieve a better time/result than the developer's perfect game ("man vs computer")

I'm starting to believe it was an exploit as well.

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so what or we talking about here ? what game was the first speed run video game or is was it possible for Todd to set the top score :) and you know Rudy you have to live a 100 years to go around calming you or the Console Player of The Century :)