Originally Posted by Ninglendo

Well looking at his Facebook he is saying stuff like he isnt sorry for saying what he did about the person's mother and is threatening TG that he is going to leak forum archives. It's one thing to be critical about something. It's another thing to start making threats.

Really? Not looking good for avoiding a perma-ban.

Originally Posted by GibGirl

I understand what you're saying, but in this case, I think that clause can be considered a method of him demonstrating growth. I'm assuming the current situation is like a jail sentence. Yes, there's going to be a ban for a while, but following instructions and showing some personal growth and restraint can possibly reduce the amount. But going off and complaining about it everywhere else shows the unwanted behavior is continuing elsewhere.

I do have concern about this setting a precedent as being included in future bans. I hope this is an extreme condition only applied to an extreme case.

Rudy is an extreme case. He has made death threats, wished for people or people's family members to die, celebrated a person's miscarriage, called a person's child ********, two in fact. He has made hate blogs about me and others. Accused me of being a home wrecker and drunk, taking my personal problems and using them against me as well as others who called him friend. Granted I'm a drunk, I'm drinking right now, but a home wrecker no. That's only the tip of the ice berg. There is a reason he is known in the CAG as one of the four horsemen of Classic Arcade Gaming. With him gone means one of the four horsemen have been beaten. I celebrate this victory.

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Nothing wrong with being a drunk. think I'll hike to the store to re-up

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BTW I have his forum archives, it's just a copy and paste of the secret forum for referees. There is nothing there, if the administration needs it I am happy to dig it up and provide it. It's useless.

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sometimes phrasing is key.

I wonder if tg said "rudy is banned for life, but if he doesnt talk about us for 6 months he'll be let back" if people would have any problem with that. Its the same thing, but phrased that way, offsite activity yeilds mercy as opposed to punishment

Originally Posted by Snowflake

sometimes phrasing is key.

I wonder if tg said "rudy is banned for life, but if he doesnt talk about us for 6 months he'll be let back" if people would have any problem with that. Its the same thing, but phrased that way, offsite activity yeilds mercy as opposed to punishment

I think TG is happy to have Rudy gone. I’m not sure they are looking to setup ways to allow him back in easily.

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Originally Posted by Ninglendo

Well looking at his Facebook he is saying stuff like he isnt sorry for saying what he did about the person's mother and is threatening TG that he is going to leak forum archives. It's one thing to be critical about something. It's another thing to start making threats.

Completely missed the dust up with DG - at one point Rudy was saying "don't believe it, we're just horsing around" but then I guess it stopped being that. The whole "death to your loved ones" can't be tolerated.

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Originally Posted by The Evener

Completely missed the dust up with DG - at one point Rudy was saying "don't believe it, we're just horsing around" but then I guess it stopped being that. The whole "death to your loved ones" can't be tolerated.

Alot of us know Rudy personally. I hung out with him this last weekend. I even called him a little ***** for following me around but we had a great time. He knows I don't care for his personal, low blow, attacks. I told him he needs to watch what he says as it can be used against him but he wouldn't listen

Trust me. I have some serious enemies who watch my every move hoping I say something Rudy like. But that will never happen. I was hoping Rudy could evolve past this, but he is so weak he needs to make low blows just to get attention. Meanwhile I never ever had to resort to extremes nor did I ever. It's time for Rudy to evolve. I'm for a permanent ban. He needs to move past this and find a new community, and grow into something better. He can do it. But he needs to work hard to achieve it.

I've just unfriended Rudy from Facebook and will not friend him after what I've just read on the wall.

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To those of you thinking that off-site behavior getting you banned here seems extreme, let's imagine this. A TG user going around on Twitter, Facebook, and forums, sharing Jace and Dave's personal information, and implying they've committed illegal acts with minors. Would it seem wrong to ban a user, among taking other action? I'd hope none of you would find that to be overreacting.

I don't think any of us who haven't been specifically contacted about our behavior by the TG staff have anything to worry about as long as we behave reasonably. And if you're unsure if something is reasonable or could result in the TG staff taking action, I'm sure they'll answer any questions.

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Originally Posted by GibGirl

To those of you thinking that off-site behavior getting you banned here seems extreme, let's imagine this. A TG user going around on Twitter, Facebook, and forums, sharing Jace and Dave's personal information, and implying they've committed illegal acts with minors. Would it seem wrong to ban a user, among taking other action? I'd hope none of you would find that to be overreacting.

I don't think any of us who haven't been specifically contacted about our behavior by the TG staff have anything to worry about as long as we behave reasonably. And if you're unsure if something is reasonable or could result in the TG staff taking action, I'm sure they'll answer any questions.

This is exactly close to what Rudy has done. So anyone saying otherwise needs not to worry. Most people won't dupe to extremes.

I feel bad for TG having to deal with it. Imagine you are Jace and you are pumping money into your business, trying to build it up, constantly improving it and you have this individual trying to use it as a soapbox, saying crazy things, hating on other members and generally being obnoxious. Then you ban them and they continue to say defamatory things about you and your business everywhere else and to anyone who will listen.

Not an enviable position to be in.

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Originally Posted by trivia212005

I've just unfriended Rudy from Facebook and will not friend him after what I've just read on the wall.

You just gained a new one. I'm a fan of your Sonic and Knuckles speed runs :D

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Originally Posted by DadsGlasses

Hector: you are commenting on a public forum about someone’s medical and mental health. This is a person that has been banned and cannot defend himself. I don’t see what this adds to the thread that could possibly be seen as positive in any way.

Whatever...

"Rudy is an extreme case. He has made death threats, wished for people or people's family members to die, celebrated a person's miscarriage, called a person's child ********, two in fact. He has made hate blogs about me and others. Accused me of being a home wrecker and drunk, taking my personal problems and using them against me as well as others who called him friend. Granted I'm a drunk, I'm drinking right now, but a home wrecker no. That's only the tip of the ice berg. There is a reason he is known in the CAG as one of the four horsemen of Classic Arcade Gaming. With him gone means one of the four horsemen have been beaten. I celebrate this victory."

A psychopath/sociopath/narcissist will never change. The fact TG gave him another chance tells him he has been forgiven, so he thinks what he was forgiven for is forgivable.
So he does it again.
He expects to be forgiven for his false sense of grandiosity, and he feels "entitled" to say what he wants. Someone who does not recognise boundaries is a serious piece of work. Someone who claims to be the best when they are not is twisted. Trust me. Unfortunately, I had to become an expert.

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Originally Posted by kernzyp

"Rudy is an extreme case. He has made death threats, wished for people or people's family members to die, celebrated a person's miscarriage, called a person's child ********, two in fact. He has made hate blogs about me and others. Accused me of being a home wrecker and drunk, taking my personal problems and using them against me as well as others who called him friend. Granted I'm a drunk, I'm drinking right now, but a home wrecker no. That's only the tip of the ice berg. There is a reason he is known in the CAG as one of the four horsemen of Classic Arcade Gaming. With him gone means one of the four horsemen have been beaten. I celebrate this victory."

A psychopath/sociopath/narcissist will never change. The fact TG gave him another chance tells him he has been forgiven, so he thinks what he was forgiven for is forgivable.
So he does it again.
He expects to be forgiven for his false sense of grandiosity, and he feels "entitled" to say what he wants. Someone who does not recognise boundaries is a serious piece of work. Someone who claims to be the best when they are not is twisted. Trust me. Unfortunately, I had to become an expert.

Kernzy is right. Being someone who has been diagnosed with a psychotic disorder I know better than anyone people with this condition will never give up.

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A thread about someone being banned for being toxic has become toxic the way everyone is smearing it. Please just everyone shut up and move on. It is adding to the toxicity and TG is letting it happen.

I’d like to know what’s being done about banning the toxic person who’s been riding Rudy for months after Rudy denied their friendship and butts got hurt. Seriously. Rudy is an easy target. Benefactors are not I guess. I defend nothing Rudy said but I don’t imagine anything was one-sided in this instance.

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This is getting embarrassing.

Ban Datagod if you’re going to ban Rudy. Period. It was a two-sided issue.

Heavy Hand is such a hypocrite.

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Wow. This has gotten interesting.

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Originally Posted by bensweeneyonbass

I’d like to know what’s being done about banning the toxic person who’s been riding Rudy for months after Rudy denied their friendship and butts got hurt. Seriously. Rudy is an easy target. Benefactors are not I guess. I defend nothing Rudy said but I don’t imagine anything was one-sided in this instance.

Unfortunately, Rudy is his OWN enemy. He knew what would happen, and he was compelled to act accordingly. That means he has a cycle. A cycle of destruction, and if you are nearby, you'll get sucked in. The fact he needs to destruct himself has no bearing on the cycle. It is pre-programmed for narcopaths. It breeds the "poor me" hoover.

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