Dispute: william rosa - Atari 2600 / VCS - Demons To Diamonds - NTSC - Game 1, Difficulty B - Player: David B Yancey - Score: 14,434

Atari 2600 / VCS - Demons To Diamonds - NTSC - Game 1, Difficulty B
Score Track	https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=2293
Rules	Default Settings
Player Name	David B Yancey
Original Adjudication	N/A
Verification Method	Video
Verification Date	2004-11-13
Disputed Score	14,434 (Rank 2)
Disputed By	Snowflake
Dispute Evidence / Rationale	tying two other people exactly in a game that doesnt max-out is highly unlikely, especially in this game where its not like centipede where experts can purposely choose their score, this game has a lot of randomness thats hard to plan for, and also purposely setting up and killing yourself is hard enough for a low socre, but to do so for a world record at the time doesnt make any sense. Any one capable of doing such a thing on purpose is capable of beating the score. Also with noting is the indivual previously tied at least one score which we know to be impossible as well as a string of other ties with games that are not maxouts. linking this dipuste to the other demons to diamonds one as the arguments will no doubt be similiar and its worth cross referencing so people dont have to repeat themselves https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...s-Score-14-434

A link that may be of use
https://www.twingalaxies.com/archive/.../t-115089.html

Scores ending/capped at 14,434 never made any sense to me when the instruction booklet itself suggests the following...

With points per life left in "Wave 16" worth an eye-popping 2,000 points each, assuming you reached that far, in theory you could achieve nearly 12K with just extra lives alone assuming you had that many, so I never really understood why the game seemed to end at such an early point for not just one but for several players.

I think I broke 10K at the title myself but never lasted long enough to find out if the score capped. David Yancey as per the thread above was adamant that his game went past that point, so is everyone sure that this score of 14,434 is problematic ? I'm not 100% sure myself so have to abstain voting until more knowledge presents itself.

BONUS LIVES

Lives that you have remaining after an opponent has lost all 5 lives are
credited to your score. The value of a bonus life increases with each
wave, as shown in Figure 5-Bonus Life Scoring Table.

Figure 5:
Wave Number 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Points Per Life Left 10 20 30 50 100 150 200 250 300

Wave Number 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
Points Per Life Left 350 400 500 750 1000 1500 2000

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Originally Posted by CWK

A link that may be of use
https://www.twingalaxies.com/archive.../t-115089.html

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please read the dispute itself as your question is already answered there but to summarize

correct, the score is completely possible, in fact, the score has since been beaten. so not only are those digits possible, but higher scores are too. the problem is its highly suspicious that wagner got this score yancey and todd just happened to tie it exactly.

Much like your issue with Todd's kaboom score, the score while possible, is very difficult to aim for exactly due to everything having different point values. even someone good enough will likely go over or under but not hit the score exactly. combine this with yancey's history of tying the highest score he thought to be possible (including mysteriously tying a typo in what an instruction book incorrectly listed as the maxout for a game), as well as numerous fake scores yancey has already had removed yet remains unbanned since each time he just says something to the effect of "oops someone misentered please remove it" this reeks of suspicion. I have however since given up hope that yancey's long trail of proven fake scores is ever enough to get his other suspicious, but not provably fake ones removed.

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Originally Posted by RTM

Scores ending/capped at 14,434 never made any sense to me when the instruction booklet itself suggests the following...

With points per life left in "Wave 16" worth an eye-popping 2,000 points each, assuming you reached that far, in theory you could achieve nearly 12K with just extra lives alone assuming you had that many, so I never really understood why the game seemed to end at such an early point for not just one but for several players.

I think I broke 10K at the title myself but never lasted long enough to find out if the score capped. David Yancey as per the thread above was adamant that his game went past that point, so is everyone sure that this score of 14,434 is problematic ? I'm not 100% sure myself so have to abstain voting until more knowledge presents itself.

BONUS LIVES

Lives that you have remaining after an opponent has lost all 5 lives are
credited to your score. The value of a bonus life increases with each
wave, as shown in Figure 5-Bonus Life Scoring Table.

Figure 5:
Wave Number 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Points Per Life Left 10 20 30 50 100 150 200 250 300

Wave Number 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
Points Per Life Left 350 400 500 750 1000 1500 2000

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my above comment was in response to this post,sorry for accidentally giving you a notification by replying to you comment instead clay