Hi Dave. I agree that it does make PacPlus easier to pattern having it on Free Play since if you hold down the 1P button as it powers on, you'll get the same start, so perhaps on PacPlus Free Play shouldn't be allowed for submissions. But what you originally wrote was "I believe that patterning mazes becomes possible if the game is set to free play", and as I replied, patterning mazes on PacPlus is possible every without Free Play. And as qnz wrote on the CAGDC post I linked to above it is much easier than 1 out of every 64, provided you are doing it from a reset the machine (or MAME).
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Originally Posted by qnz
You aren't going to be able to make CFP patterns on Ms Pac even with Free-Play. The link I gave to the old TG forums above specifically talked about fruit, but ghost movements are similarly random. Please try the experiment I originally proposed above or do this one: Set MAME (or arcade) to Free-Play. Restart, and press and hold 1P as the game starts up. Try and run just the beginning of a very basic pattern that goes to the bottom of the screen then runs a square around the whole first screen. The ghosts won't behave the same each time since it isn't humanly possible to have all of your joystick presses start and end in exactly the same 1/60th of a second each time you run the pattern. CFP patterns on Pac-Man or PacPlus aren't very hard to run since you just have to pre-turn every corner, but patterning Ms Pac would require frame perfect patterns of joystick input which only a program or bot could do.Quote:
Originally Posted by anningmay
That said, I do think it is interesting that "restarting" the machine before starting a game, which some players suggest should be a requirement for all submissions, does make some games easier to pattern, with or without Free-Play. Berzerk and a lot of trivia games are other examples.
-George