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    Agreed.

    TGTS has always been 5 lives to the best of my knowledge, so something does indeed sound misunderstood.
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    Hi guys, I can shed light.

    STARGATE and DEFENDER TGTS(5 man only) settings were NOT tracked back in the day. Only marathon settings...

    TGTS(5 man only) STARGATE was not tracked until around 2001.
    These two new TGTS(5 man only) Stargate and Defender records both only eclipse recent 2001 and later submissions.

    on to marathon settings back in the day...

    Weather a marathon game back in the day was started with 3 or 7(2 credit) men doesn't really matter as any good Stargate player will build up tons of extra ships like Asteroids marathoners. These games end usually in exhaustion and the player voluntarily quits the game rather then running out of lives.

    STARGATE marathon settings are identical to factory settings.
    1 credit (3 ships) / extra lives at 10,000 / warp limit wave 10 / difficulty = factory settings.

    hope this clears things up a little.
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    Re: New World Records on Stargate & Defender Tournament

    Quote Originally Posted by slh
    b/c I and others were there.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ripper
    How do you know they were done with 3 lives?


    huh? You were where? witnessing what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericliddell
    these two new TGTS(5 man only) Stargate and Defender records both only eclipse recent 2001 and later submissions.
    I don't even see a listing for Defender or Stargate TGTS with 2001 and later dates only. Those new scores had scores from 1985.
    Stephen K. Boyer
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    Mario Bros. 2-Player Team: 1,517,380 ( Arcade Medium World Record )
    Mario Bros. 2-Player Team: 788,970 ( Arcade Medium NO POW World Record )
    Mario Bros. Single Player MEDIUM 4,260,210 ( MAME World Record )
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    The June 11, 2004 date in the table for Scott Heyano is not the date that he achieved that score. That is just a placeholder date for some older scores. His score was achieved much earlier than this back in 84' during the masters tourney. I bet SLH can confirm this. See this link.

    http://www.classicarcadegaming.com/wr/g ... /index.htm

    Here are the top scores from the TGTS Stargate database.

    Rank % Score Points Player DateVerified Verification Method
    1 100.00 % 284,975 Bill Jones 09/14/2008 DVD
    2 68.15 % 194,200 Scott Heyano 06/11/2004 Referee
    3 60.93 % 173,625 Eric Liddell 05/31/2008 Referee
    4 23.01 % 65,575 Brien King 05/13/2001 Referee
    5 21.49 % 61,250 Donald Hayes 03/21/2004 Referee
    6 20.56 % 58,600 David Nelson 03/21/2004 Referee
    7 19.75 % 56,275 Ron Corcoran 07/15/2001 Referee
    8 13.92 % 39,675 Jason Cram 03/21/2004 Referee
    9 13.49 % 38,450 Derek K Fonda 05/31/2008 Referee
    10 12.46 % 35,500 Anthony Perrella 03/21/2004 Referee


    From what I can recall, the specific settings for TGTS were not very specific on the Twin Galaxies website until mid 2005. Before that I only remember seeing a general statement for arcade games that you were to play with 5 start units on level 9 and no extras. I believe that I read this in Walter's first book. The settings from the 86 masters tourney can be found here

    http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7384

    It specifies 3 start ships, no bonus ships, and difficulty #5, and no warps past wave 10 for Stargate. (It also lists settings for Defender that are easier and harder than TGTS.)

    If the Stargate settings are the same settings that SLH played under during the 84' masters tourney then it would make sense to set up a separate track for games played under those settings and to not include his score in the TGTS track for 5 ships. This would be a fair way to handle it to give him credit for the world class gameplay he did BITD. It would also give newer players a chance to match up directly against his older score.

    Other games have had special tracks set up. For example centipede 3 minute, donkey kong no hammer. Strike force bowling has a billion tracks, so why not add one more for Stargate since it appears possible that his score was done on more difficult settings than TGTS.

    SLH - Do you have any documentation from the 84' tourney that you can share to support this?

    Bill J.
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    He doesnt but I do.
    My roomate Mike Munoz who also holds some records
    kept the sheets that were handed out back then.
    If needed I can make some copies and send them in or
    scan them in and post them.
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    I was unaware of the 3-man only tournaments that went on in the 80's. Yup... that adds a new twist to the tracking of this title indeed.

    If Scott can do 194,000 3-man only BITD... then he should start submitting for 5-man only now. we could use the competition and personally I would love to see other worthy Stargate players come back to the scene. Are any Stargate players going to Fun Spot XI? I'll be there and looking for good players to compete against.

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    I'm going to try and attend my first funspot event.
    I will give you some fun in defender, robotron and
    stargate. I'm attempting a record in all three. I'm
    also challenging the current wr on defender as I and
    many others dont believe that it is possible. I did get
    a 264k in defender so far. 840k in robotron and havent
    pulled out the stargate in storage yet to practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redelf
    I'm
    also challenging the current wr on defender as I and
    many others dont believe that it is possible.
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    I posted a record attempt for Defender on Youtube.

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