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Dispute: Jason Newman - PlayStation - Ridge Racer - NTSC - Beginner Difficulty [Fastest Lap] - Player: Cristiano T T Assumpcao - Score: 36.949

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    Dispute: Jason Newman - PlayStation - Ridge Racer - NTSC - Beginner Difficulty [Fastest Lap] - Player: Cristiano T T Assumpcao - Score: 36.949

    PlayStation - Ridge Racer - NTSC - Beginner Difficulty [Fastest Lap]
    Score Trackhttp://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=1860
    RulesYou may use a leveled-up file to access and use any vehicle.
    Player NameCristiano T T Assumpcao
    Original AdjudicationN/A
    Verification MethodVideo
    Verification Date2000-06-30
    Disputed Score36.949 (Rank 1)
    Disputed Byrotunda
    Dispute Evidence / RationaleThis score is impossible on the beginner stage and i have spoken to Cristiano on TG about this when he returned briefly. Although there was a slight language barrier between us he agreed that the time was mean't for the medium track stage. His time closely matches the score he has scored on his medium track submission (38.751). He cannot score a faster time on beginner than the medium track as it is the exact same course but the car on medium is considerably faster.
    I have attached a screenshot of our chat where he agrees that the error should be corrected and agrees the score is impossible on novice.
    For further clarification on this score being a medium track score... see here, a little tournament on Ridge Racer Turbo in which most good players knock up 37 second lap times on the medium track stage. http://www.rolling-start.com/forum/v....php?f=43&t=25 37 seconds is the usual time for a good player on this track.

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    Forgot to mention, in the link i provided the stage is called "T.A Short" this is called the medium track on the original Ridge Racer.

    It is also under the "Supercars (#0 White Angel and #13 13" Racing)" section. Normal cars section result in much slower times.
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    Further evidence videos:

    Beginner stage run:



    Medium stage run:



    I'm a little out of practice (first time playing in about 4 months) but as you can see my medium track time is around the same sort of area as his apparent beginner score. My beginner score is way higher with no chance of ever making it 7 or 8 seconds slower on lap 2.
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    Another thing i forgot to mention. His total race time for the same track and game are A LOT slower than if it was able to perform 37 second laps on the stage. See my image below.

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    Compare his race time score (2 Laps) which is 1:52.633 for the same game, that is an average lap of about 56 seconds per lap not 36 seconds! His record for overall race time on beginner which is 2 laps is 1:52.633 when it should be closer to 1:13.000 if he is pulling off 36.949 laps. Granted, In Ridge Racer the 2nd lap is always faster due to the car crossing the line at full speed but even so this only adds up to a 1 or 2 second loss on lap one not the HUGE discrepancy we are seeing here.
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    Another thing I've noticed, 2 of his scores dates match for the time they were entered into the database. These are the incorrect beginner stage time and the overall race time for the medium track submission. See below.

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    But then if we look at his beginner stage overall race time again, not only do the times not add up if he were pulling off those impossible times but we can see it is submitted 5 years later.

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    Bumping for votes, this should be an easy accept folks... it's 100% incorrect, even Christiano agreed.
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    Bump........
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    Some more votes are required before we can resolve this one.
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    Can we vote guys? It is 100% incorrect.
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    Some great analyses here, thanks for the efforts in this dispute. We will move the score to the correct track.
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