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Dispute: John McAllister - Atari 2600 / VCS - Skiing - NTSC - Game 03, Difficulty BB [Fastest Time] - Player: Todd Rogers - Score: 27.51

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    Dispute: John McAllister - Atari 2600 / VCS - Skiing - NTSC - Game 03, Difficulty BB [Fastest Time] - Player: Todd Rogers - Score: 27.51

    Atari 2600 / VCS - Skiing - NTSC - Game 03, Difficulty BB [Fastest Time]
    Score Trackhttp://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=2146
    RulesDefault Settings
    Player NameTodd Rogers
    Original AdjudicationN/A
    Verification MethodReferee
    Verification Date2001-05-12
    Disputed Score27.51 (Rank 1)
    Disputed Byredelf
    Dispute Evidence / RationaleTime was done using a trick with the A/B difficulty switches. Time can't be done without this trick. Video evidence is from this video.

    http://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-glen-sampson
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    This one I concur with without a shadow of a doubt !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcade View Post
    This one I concur with without a shadow of a doubt !!!
    Yep no doubt on this, I've done the trick too, it's the only way to achieve the stated time
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    First I've encountered the possibility, subscribing. :) Sounds like a good case for a score to be moved to a new track based on others' validating the tactic used to achieve a score (i.e., the score is valid but not for this rule set).

    Are you on my radar?
    I'd rather be last on every game than throw my time away chasing only one score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax View Post
    First I've encountered the possibility, subscribing. :) Sounds like a good case for a score to be moved to a new track based on others' validating the tactic used to achieve a score (i.e., the score is valid but not for this rule set).
    Yes I agree this just needs to be moved to another track.
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    I disagree with you guys.

    "Move this performance to another track"? .... (A track that allows for cheating)?

    Sorry folks .... the player 'cheated' on this performance - plain and simple.

    I voted "YES".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intellivision Master View Post
    I disagree with you guys.

    "Move this performance to another track"? .... (A track that allows for cheating)?

    Sorry folks .... the player 'cheated' on this performance - plain and simple.

    I voted "YES".
    I agree. If It's not done to rule why move it. Get rid of it. I also agree that if it wasn't done to a do-able rule then yes..it's a cheat!
    It really is that plain and simple.
    Here's the definition of "cheat" that I'm referencing ......

    act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage.

    john

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    I have invited @toddrogers to join in on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hawksett View Post
    I have invited @toddrogers to join in on this one.
    Dave, quick procedural question. When a dispute is started, does the system automatically notify a gamer that his/her score is being disputed? If not, it would be good to add that feature. A gamer may not even be aware that a dispute has started. For now, tagging the player as you did here, is a great way to insure that the player knows about the dispute and can provide evidence if they wish.
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    A good question. Currently they do not. We will discuss and come back with a proper answer.
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