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Dispute: Craig Gallant - Arcade - Black Tiger - Points - Player: TriForce Johnson - Score: 2,634,300

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    Dispute: Craig Gallant - Arcade - Black Tiger - Points - Player: TriForce Johnson - Score: 2,634,300

    Arcade - Black Tiger - Points
    Score Trackhttp://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=10218
    RulesDip-Switch Bank A:
    1-8 = OFF
    Dip-Switch Bank B:
    1-4 = OFF
    5 = ON
    6-7 = OFF
    8 = ON/OFF [Upright/Cocktail]
    Note: The above Dip Switches, are not only the FACTORY DEFAULT settings, but are also the correct Twin Galaxies Tournament Settings for this title and will provide the following settings;
    Lives: 3
    Difficulty Level: Factory is #3 (also called Easy #2)l
    Player NameTriForce Johnson
    Original AdjudicationN/A
    Verification MethodReferee
    Verification Date2011-06-04
    Disputed Score2,634,300 (Rank 1)
    Disputed Byd3scride
    Dispute Evidence / RationaleTLDR: Isaah 'Triforce' Johnson's score was done on a bootleg romset of Black Tiger at Funspot that awards 1,000,000 bonus for killing the last Dragon which is not possible with the authentic romset.


    Source: http://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...er-for-M-A-M-E


    Quote Originally Posted by INSERTCOINS
    I know of 3 types of boards for Black Tiger.


    1. Black Tiger Authentic - This is the board everyone has for the most part. It does not give 1,000,000 for killing the last Dragon.
    2. Black Tiger Bootleg Set 1 - I have not seen many of these. Maybe 1 or 2 on Ebay in the past year. I was really thinking this might have been the board at Funspot for awhile.... but ROM F6 is similar to 5E and you just pointed out the Dragon in the title screen.... and the title screen at Funspot doesn't have that so I'm thinking it's not this. (Good catch)
    3. Black Tiger Bootleg Set 2 - I have not seen many of these either although they seem more common than Bootleg Set 1. If you look at the MAME rom 1 for this it looks almost exactly like 5E so I was thinking this wasn't the same board. Although, the position of the ROMs on the board you would think it would be the ROM labeled 5 for 5E not 1. I think only ROMs 1 and 3 are dumped for this board.


    So I kind of think whatever Funspot has, it may be different than any of those.

    Quote Originally Posted by DREVANS


    I have what looks exactly like the last board pictured above.


    By virtue of the fact killing the final dragon awards 1,000,000 points, aren't the scores obtained on the Funspot machine... well kinda unique. No-one on a "normal" genuine capcom Black Tiger board will be able to come close to those scores as has been proven by the MAME scores.

    http://www.twingalaxies.com/archive/.../t-133533.html


    Quote Originally Posted by INSERTCOINS


    Not sure if anyone is interested but I put up a score of 2,762,950 on the Black Tiger at Funspot today. :D I'll post a pic a little later once I get my USB cable in a few days.


    A much higher score is possible for sure.


    The board at Funspot plays like Black Dragon which gives out the 1,000,000 for the last dragon. Actually, I think it plays identical to Black Dragon on the 2nd easiest difficulty. It says Black Tiger though for sure and it is all in English. I just figured I'd push it higher this Funspot.


    This morning I think I scored 2,784,500. That was my highest. PJ flagged down Graham for me towards the end of the day so I think a 2,575,400 score got posted on Aurcade. So it's cool to have some proof.



    2. Top 5 Aggregate Black Tiger (blktiger romset) Scores (aggregate): Twin Galaxies (TG) + MAME Action Replay( MARP)


    1,703,900 'Jarl' - MARP
    1,677,500 'INNUENDO'- MARP
    1,674,600 Nathan Hibbert TG
    1,644,750 Charlie D D Wehner - TG
    1,591,450 Stephanie Wu TG


    The discrepancy between the top arcade score (2,634,300) and the top MAME score (1,703,900) is 930,400. I surmise that Triforce scored 1,634,300 before the dragon bonus which would make his score more in line with the top MAME scores.
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    I plan to also dispute the second place score of 2,257,650
    Craig Rout Gallant

    Current verified TG WRs: 58

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    Was planning to dispute this myself for the reasons stated. You beat me to it. Thanks man.

    Voted yes.
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    Have a couple black tiger boards myself and this score has always bothered me but I was wondering if it is not acceptable to play on a black dragon set? I mean there is or was just a shinobi submission played on a japanese boardset
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    Thinking a part english part japan board would not be fair though
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWK View Post
    Have a couple black tiger boards myself and this score has always bothered me but I was wondering if it is not acceptable to play on a black dragon set? I mean there is or was just a shinobi submission played on a japanese boardset
    To be fair and thorough, the reason Shinobi shows up in Japanese is that there is a language setting via dip switches, see page 24 of manual pdf:

    http://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals...ers_Manual.pdf

    Sorry to nitpick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GGA HAN View Post
    To be fair and thorough, the reason Shinobi shows up in Japanese is that there is a language setting via dip switches, see page 24 of manual pdf:

    http://www.arcade-museum.com/manuals...ers_Manual.pdf

    Sorry to nitpick.
    Ok I think I have a Japanese Shinobi board or at least I thought it was. Either way there are no stipulations in the rules referring to which boardset must be used? I was just wondering. May have another Shinobi board as well. Know I have at least 1 though
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    So what is the dispute?

    A. The score is fake and you want it removed?
    B. I didn't perform the score and you want it removed?
    C. I some how cheated to get the score and you want it removed?
    D. Somehow I performed the score but it is for Black Dragon and not Black Tiger and the title/record variation should be corrected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TriForce View Post
    So what is the dispute?

    A. The score is fake and you want it removed?
    B. I didn't perform the score and you want it removed?
    C. I some how cheated to get the score and you want it removed?
    D. Somehow I performed the score but it is for Black Dragon and not Black Tiger and the title/record variation should be corrected?
    The claim is in the very first line of the dispute:

    TLDR: Isaah 'Triforce' Johnson's score was done on a bootleg romset of Black Tiger at Funspot that awards 1,000,000 bonus for killing the last Dragon which is not possible with the authentic romset.
    Did you read the dispute or just the title of this thread? There is no mention of anything like your A, B or C anywhere in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gstrain View Post
    The claim is in the very first line of the dispute:



    Did you read the dispute or just the title of this thread? There is no mention of anything like your A, B or C anywhere in this thread.
    I read the entire post, which included the quoted comments. Which is where A, B, C and or D comes from. The dispute doesn't state a desired action to be taken as a result of the dispute. Which is why I'm asking.
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