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Dispute: Matthew Felix - Game Boy Advance - The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap - Fastest Completion - Player: Michael B Damiani - Score: 02:46:32.0

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    Dispute: Matthew Felix - Game Boy Advance - The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap - Fastest Completion - Player: Michael B Damiani - Score: 02:46:32.0

    Game Boy Advance - The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap - Fastest Completion
    Score Trackhttp://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=12907
    Rules
    • Starting Point: When the Player starts on a file
    • Ending Point: When final blow is dealt to the final bossNo deaths allowed, but usage of fairies are allowed

    Player NameMichael B Damiani
    Original AdjudicationN/A
    Verification MethodVideo
    Verification Date2005-05-07
    Disputed Score02:46:32.0 (Rank 2)
    Disputed Bystarcrytas
    Dispute Evidence / RationaleVideo:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AG9y-cGKBQ

    At 15:17 in the video, the Gust Jar is equipped and the cursor is moved to the right.
    The next time the inventory is seen is at 21:05, where the cursor has been reset to the topleft position. This only happens if you use a game restart sequence of any kind.

    For comparison in the current World Record run:
    for the first equip
    for the second equip

    This shows that TSA's video has been cut somewhere between those two equips. This is one of many runs by TSA which have been proved to be spliced.

    Other places where this occurs in a run are between these pauses:

    31:15 and 33:14
    37:10 and 52:17
    55:22 and 56:50
    1:13:26 and 1:14:06
    1:24:50 and 1:25:31
    1:45:36 and 1:48:20
    1:52:26 and 2:01:22
    2:18:15 and 2:22:36
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    Credit goes to @Tompa for doing the research and setting this up.
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    Im going to need tompa to step in here. I've watched the first 25 minutes of this and I'm not seeing where things are being cut and left out. There is a reset somewhere around 19:00 but resets aren't against the rules. And he enters the inventory screen several times between 15:00 and 21:05. What exactly are you disputing and where can. Ilookto see them? Maybe I'm just missing it also. I do think it's almost impossible to cut segments out of a live twitch feed also. I don't know, point me in the right direction please.
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    Holy ****, I'm an idiot. Completely disregard that entire first post I made. I was watching the middle video which isn't even the submitted score being disputed. Wow, my apologies. I'll watch the correct video tomorrow. Seriously I'm a dip ****.
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    I just noticed that the Twitch timestamps didn't work apparently... So right now it's just listing the same video from beginning twice, for the run I'm comparing to...

    I'll go through it when I get home from work to adjust for timestamp corrections.
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    If this is stitched all this players scores must be removed and said player permanently banned
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    Yes this is a valid dispute. I hope the player is permanently banned and everything they have in the DB is wiped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WCopeland View Post
    Yes this is a valid dispute. I hope the player is permanently banned and everything they have in the DB is wiped.
    Agreed.

    Wouldn't this dispute set the precedent of:
    If a player's score is spliced, then the player is permanently banned and everything they have in the DB is wiped.
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    To add in, despite being sort of off topic: Several of Mike's Zelda runs have been confirmed spliced. While all of these are not been on TG, here's the list of confirmed ones:

    The Legend of Zelda (Proven because of incorrect Item Drops)
    A Link to the Past (Proven because of incorrect Item Drops)
    Link's Awakening DX (Proven because of incorrect drop of the Guardian Acorn and Piece of Power powerups)
    Several Ocarina of Time runs, such as: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlzocshpIlI and
    His segmented The Wind Waker run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9nGBn8eJtU
    And this The Minish Cap run

    I also got footage of an Adventure of Link run which I have yet not looked through. Should be easy to identify because of the item drop order as well, just that no one has so far.

    I could make disputes for those runs that are listed on TG, if neccesary. I just don't have all of TSA's runs anymore, missing the TLoZ one.
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    @Tompa

    Thanks for adding more insight for other users, however, I believe that this dispute with definitive proof that Mr. Damiani splice his Minish Cap speedrun, we lose trust in other speedruns here on TG and he will have all of his records in the database erased and Mr. Damiani will be banned. Therefore, disputing his other speedruns may not be necessary.
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