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Dispute: Pete Hahn - Arcade - RoboCop - Points - Player: Stephen Krogman - Score: 2,240,600

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    Dispute: Pete Hahn - Arcade - RoboCop - Points - Player: Stephen Krogman - Score: 2,240,600

    Arcade - RoboCop - Points
    Score Trackhttp://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=3383
    RulesDip Switch #1:
    1-4 = OFF
    5 = OFF/UNUSED
    6-7 = OFF
    8 = ON/OFF [Upright/Cocktail]
    Dip Switch #2:
    1-6 = OFF
    7-8 = OFF/UNUSED
    Note: The above Dip Switches, are not only the FACTORY DEFAULT settings, but are also the correct Twin Galaxies Tournament Settings for this title;
    Player's Energy: Medium
    Game Difficulty: Normal
    Special Rules: You are not allowed to use the 3rd level [or other levels] point cheat in this game. Any use will result in your score being immediately disqualified. [This involves sitting in a particular spot and the points skyrocket] Continues are NOT permitted!
    Player NameStephen Krogman
    Original AdjudicationN/A
    Verification MethodReferee
    Verification Date1991-07-12
    Disputed Score2,240,600 (Rank 1)
    Disputed ByGGA HAN
    Dispute Evidence / RationaleScore is not possible without using glitch (bug) specifically banned in the track rules. Also, Stephen Krogman himself commented on this video regarding this score:

    https://youtu.be/8sYdf1pK3NM



    A complete playthrough of the game with normal point pressing will max out near 900-950k points, maybe slightly more, as can be seen on the mame track for this title no one is even approaching this score with the same rules in place:

    http://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.p...91&ref=fbshare
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    better screencap:

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    This is true. The top score at RetroUprising takes advantage of this same bug, since it's not against the rules there. While I don't agree that this tactic should be banned, the rules for the track specifically disallow it.

    Voting "Yes"
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    I've seen this glitch, this score took advantage of it or farmed the crap out points somewhere
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    Cleared this game many times. No way to point press this game that much. Voting yes.
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    Voting "YES" because the player in question has admitted to breaking the rules, as shown in GGA HAN's screenshots.

    I encourage people to exercise a little extra caution when saying things aren't possible in a game. We've seen such claims proven wrong before (for example, when PJ Dicesare's Battletoads & Double Dragon score was called into question), and the Dragster dispute is an interesting demonstration on just how high a mountain you have to climb to truly prove that something is impossible.

    One last point: From Stephen's comment on that youtube video, it sounds like this may well have been a valid submission at the time it was submitted. Is this a case where we should be migrating the score to a new track which would reflect the rules from the time of submission? (I don't have a strong opinion on this one, I just think I remember that happening in a previous dispute thread)
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