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Dispute: Duc Dang - Android - Hill Climb Racing - Onewheeler - Night [Distance] - Player: Andrew Peter Mee - Score: 2,877

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  1. Dispute: Duc Dang - Android - Hill Climb Racing - Onewheeler - Night [Distance] - Player: Andrew Peter Mee - Score: 2,877

    09-28-2017, 04:34 PM
    #1
    Android - Hill Climb Racing - Onewheeler - Night [Distance]
    Score Trackhttps://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=195694
    Rules
    Must use the specified vehicle on the specified course. Score entered is the distance covered in metres. No pausing - must show entire run to confirm.
    Player NameAndrew Peter Mee
    Original Adjudicationhttps://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php?t=177325
    Verification MethodTGSAP
    Verification Date2017-09-28
    Disputed Score2,877 (Rank 1)
    Disputed ByHugDD
    Dispute Evidence / RationaleThe issue with this submission, is that the run is incomplete, and the action begins at midpoint with a pause/continuation. Here's the video, with the attempt from thirty eight seconds to about the 3:53 marks:

  2. 09-28-2017, 04:41 PM
    #2
    Yes. This is an incomplete video. Straight forward dispute.

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  3. 09-29-2017, 09:07 AM
    #3
    Voting yes, the video appears to show an un-pause with the course in progress
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  4. 10-01-2017, 04:20 AM
    #4

    This is clearly a valid dispute.

    Only one person voted to reject the original submission.

    If you voted "Yes" and your decision was based primarily on the JJT screen capture, perhaps you should consider a more reliable adjudication method.

    Good advice.

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  5. 10-01-2017, 01:16 PM
    #5
    This is an interesting one, can't Barthax just add the full video to this dispute? @Barthax

    The score and track are correct.

    Thoughts anyone?
  6. 10-01-2017, 02:15 PM
    #6
    *sigh* If it had been highlighted at the time, I would have simply canceled. The recording is from a time when TG wasn't accepting scores (barely existed under Jace Hall) and had never accepted any Android/iOS in its history. As the recording starts mid-way through the run I can only guess I took a call or something mid-way - didn't matter to me back then but it definitely shouldn't have been submitted. Highlights, to me, a problem in how I hunt down scores in my old footage too (from the end back toward the beginning with large skips).

    This only clarifies how pathetic the TGSAP is in actually adjudicating anything in volume (insufficient community activity). It makes me feel very disappointed that I didn't catch it before posting but even more disappointed that anyone who voted No didn't even bother to mention their reasoning.

    Straight forward dispute - should never have been submitted.

    Are you on my radar?
    I'd rather be last on every game than throw my time away chasing only one score.
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  7. 10-03-2017, 08:10 AM
    #7
    How is the adjudication community pathetic? If people would actually stop saying "accepted"and when there are issues that need to be brought up then something needs to be said.

    I'm all for congratulating though.

    Oh and put jtt Johnny on ignore. Helps a bunch.
    The Fisher King
  8. 10-07-2017, 04:49 AM
    #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Desidious View Post
    How is the adjudication community pathetic?
    If you're referring to my words then: I mentioned TGSAP is, didn't state the community. There's no quality control on the TGSAP - the Dispute system is the new quality control and quality control only happens if the few people interested in quality control pull their finger out. The direction TGSAP is currently headed: everyone votes Yes or Abstain, then people that have any care for the scoreboard file a dispute. Credibility Points have very little benefit for the user - submissions blocked at very low credibility, tribunals at 2000 CR, disputes at 4000 CR. In order to file a dispute it is better to abstain from dubious/bad submissions in order to maintain your CR - otherwise the act of voting correctly against the mass-Yes vote has the potential of preventing your dispute (by dropping the CR 5%). TGSAP is pathetic in coping with volume of submissions.

    Are you on my radar?
    I'd rather be last on every game than throw my time away chasing only one score.
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  9. 10-07-2017, 08:46 AM
    #9
    Just wish we could oust these blind voting dumbasses. Watch the videos folks, people took their time to make them and you should at least owe them to watch the record submitted.
    The Fisher King
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  10. 10-11-2017, 06:24 AM
    #10
    Making people take a hit on points is not fun. However this score should never have been submitted and clearly some adjudicators did not watch all of the footage. This was done at their own risk.

    Thanks to Honest Pete for backing this. The score is being removed.
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