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Dispute: Terence O'Neill - Arcade - Mortal Kombat - Points [Tournament Settings] - Player: Patrick J Maher - Score: 25,402,000

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    Dispute: Terence O'Neill - Arcade - Mortal Kombat - Points [Tournament Settings] - Player: Patrick J Maher - Score: 25,402,000



    Arcade - Mortal Kombat - Points [Tournament Settings]
    Score Trackhttp://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=11356
    RulesDip Switch Bank 1:
    1-4 = OFF
    5 = OFF/ON [Comic Book Offer On/Off]
    6-8 = OFF/UNUSED
    Dip Switch Bank 2:
    1 = ON/OFF [Dip Switch Coin/CMOS Determined Coin]
    2-6 = OFF
    7 = OFF/ON [1 Counter/2 Counters]
    8 = OFF/ON [Game Mode/Test Mode - Set Options Here]
    Test Mode---------
    Computer Difficulty = 5 Very Hard
    Note: The above Dip Switches, when properly designated, will give the following Twin Galaxies Tournament Settings, used for this title;
    Blood, Violence & Low Blows = On
    Difficulty: 5 Very Hard
    Player NamePatrick J Maher
    Original Adjudicationhttp://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php?t=175372
    Verification MethodTGSAP
    Verification Date2017-09-23
    Disputed Score25,402,000 (Rank 1)
    Disputed ByRaGe
    Dispute Evidence / RationaleI opened this score dispute on behalf of Isaiah TriForce Johnson. He states his case in the video below.

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    Spoiler alert! Triforce was been socially banned from posting at this site for 30 days total. He was tribunalized for making racially charged comments.

    This video should be removed at this time.
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    Yes, game was started from a continue. Voting yes
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    With respect to both datagod and rage i disagree. Although triforce cant post, i see nothing wrong with someone like rage posting for him since rage can be his filter and post any valid info while leaving out unnecessary inflammatory tangents.

    My real issue with this dispute as it brings no new info. The issue was already debated and decided on. In fact, trifroce himself comments here http://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post914727. So its not like this was just snuck through. Triforce said his piece back then, and according to triforce it was the last he would say on the matter. Everyone listened and voted accordingly.

    When new info comes out after the fact of course its relevant to dispute things, thats why the dispute system exists. I have an issue though when no new info is presented and the side that lost challenges the decision just because they didnt get their way. Does this mean every adjudication that had even one dissenting vote is up for challlenge now? That was my same issue with the domino man challenge. All the points presented in the challenge were already presented in the initial thread.

    Of what benefit is to challenge something that was already challenged during the initial adjudication?
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    I think it should of never been accepted. Continues are not allowed. Tri Force thought the rules may have changed from what I gathered and I'm guessing Tri voted no else why the dispute?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWK View Post
    I think it should of never been accepted. Continues are not allowed. Tri Force thought the rules may have changed from what I gathered and I'm guessing Tri voted no else why the dispute?
    i brought it up in the other thread and I'll discuss it here to. I really think we need a rule on this otherwise it'll get out of control. If new evidence is presented, then it makes sense to present the challenge, even if the challenge loses I still feel its good faith to present the new info. Now granted, even when there's no new evidence if a group of corrupt colluders all basically said "yep we see our buddy broke the rules, ha ha ha we have the numbers we're forcing it through try to stop us" well then of course its right to challenge even with no new info. I just feel though that outside of ridiculous cases, as long as the evidence was known during the first dispute then allowing a challenge with no new info is a bad idea.

    In this particular case, you're right, triforce is not up to date on all the rules, however he wasnt the only one to comment. If you're seeing the no continue rule as new evidence, its not as hann brought it up in the same thread.
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    It's not new evidence but the rule was broken and I agree if it does not say continues are allowed in the specific rules then the rules were broken
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    Yeah, I brought it up by quoting the general guidelines...the consensus was that since they don't specifically state that the continue couldn't be used before the score attempt, one could interpret it as no continues once your scoring run has begun.

    Since the score jumps back to 0 when the run started and no continues were used after that, it was voted in.

    The reason why I think most voted yes is because there is no other known way to manipulate the "test your might" mini-game bonuses, which needs to be at higher values to obtain the score that was at number 1 before this score was accepted.

    If Triforce is willing to show how to carry the mini-game bonuses over on a non-continued game start, there would be merit to this dispute. As Triforce himself said in the thread, he used some type of manipulation of the test your might mini-game to get the higher bonuses, but did not want to reveal his tactics.

    Voting NO (unless new evidence is presented)
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    So I can play some 1942 if my score resets on continue and get the 10mill completion bonus even if I'm not good enough to make it there?
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    yeah, I hear you @CWK , but that's not really apples to apples...

    The MK run starts at the beginning of the fight tower (where any game starts, continued or not) - not at the last level of the game like your 1942 example.

    I do see your point, though.
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