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Dispute: Marc Cohen - Atari 2600 / VCS - Challenge of Nexar - NTSC - Game 1, Difficulty B - Player: David B Yancey - Score: 999,995

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    another time david gets a three way tie for first with 64 points even though we now know at least 93 is possble
    http://www.twingalaxies.com/game_det...37&ref=fbshare

    this admittedly another weak one, i'd say this is possible, but look at them all together. the amazing david yet again ties first place at the time, what a coincidence he was exactly equally in skill yet again to first place at the time. and considering its not even close to a maxout, no, i do not think its likely alot of people would just happen to get this score. but the amazing david sure did
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    another time david gets a three way tie for first with 64 points even though we now know at least 93 is possble
    http://www.twingalaxies.com/game_det...37&ref=fbshare

    this admittedly another weak one, i'd say this is possible, but look at them all together. the amazing david yet again ties first place at the time, what a coincidence he was exactly equally in skill yet again to first place at the time. and considering its not even close to a maxout, no, i do not think its likely alot of people would just happen to get this score. but the amazing david sure did
    This IS a bizarre pattern. Tying scores per manuals (which are not even valid) AND with other gamers that are way below maxouts.
    Snowflake is building a case here.
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    ok i've now reviewed david's score and they fall into these categories

    1. tie with first place at the time
    a. in a highly suspicious ways all those listed above
    b. in non suspcious ways. like 80 on night driver for example, or a freeway maxout, which fine we know its not the maxout now, but its reasonable to think he really earned that score. still worth including though, cause its weird he was never once the one to discover a way to break the time always exactly good enough to match the best at the time.
    2. maxout (so tie with first at the time)
    3. innagural (so first at the time) and a terribly low score, like really bad, the dude sucked at games
    4. highest score at the time among a bunch of other really bad scores (again really bad at games, only good at cheating)
    5. impossible score that coincidentally ties the instruction book ( a score by the way if he even played the game once he'd know was impossible. the dude didnt even play the games he lied about high scoring in. most cheaters are at least real gamers, this guy cant even play)
    6. second place to todd, but beats or ties anyone else. think dragster 5.61 for example

    so, we have someone who on an empty track was terrible at video games. someone who on a track with all bad scores, sucked at games just slightly less. but then this person whos truly terrible at video games magically ties first place when theres a high score.

    He's like an action hero from an 80s tv series. No matter who his opponent is, he's always perfectly matched and its an exciting close match.

    I'll give him this, hes smart. He knew not to ruffle feathers, cheat just barely enough to get first place but not too much to raise suspicions. heck, didnt even tie todd all the time, knowing that tying todd all the time would get suspicious. he even read the instructions to make sure his score was possible -- but that was his undoing. The poor fool finally lied about tying an impossible score, the score in an instruction book misprint. Ultimately his attention to detail backfired on him.
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    the only question now is which lying cheating ref was in on it with him
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    Subscribing to the drama. I mean dispute.
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    i'd like to point i normally say lets hear the other side, lets be more measured, but i've never been so pissed. This is clearly crap across the board. compare my responses here to my response elsewhere. I know this score is his only impossible one -- and one impossible score is all the proof i need, but his other scores, well, i know me saying the suspicions add up may not be convincing to a non atari player, but trust me, if you play atari you'd realize the skill disparity between games he played where's he's magically always equal to his opponent just arent possible, not in the real world. I'd be stunned if any atari player even thinks theres the slightest chance this guy is legit after reviewing all this.
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    @TWIN GALAXIES can we get this guys name changed to The Amazing David?
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    wow the amazing david is so amazing i found another he issue. he submitted to a game that didnt even exist. What sort of miracle lets someone claim scores on a nonexistent game? Poor roger was getting the heat for this. This is the problem with these scores, current players pay the prices for these milkheads. dragon defender only existed as pal at the time, yet somehow the amazing david managed to get a ntsc score for it. real wizard this guy

    http://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...587#post930587
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    Well David Yancey has made it clear he and Todd are pretty good friends FWIW. So far you have made a very compelling case lets see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danman1234 View Post
    Well David Yancey has made it clear he and Todd are pretty good friends FWIW. So far you have made a very compelling case lets see what happens.
    he's not that good a friend to todd, in the gorf dispute he hurt todd's case. He said todd can only make it to 200k on one life, and the dispute is whether or not todd could do 650k on 3 live. Actually, he thought he was helping todd, i guess he doesnt know how to multiply 2x3 though and just really thought he made a strong case. no wonder he's so bad at faking his own scores, bro cant do 2x3. If wants to help todd he should shut up, because if he's honest his claim hurts todd and if he's a liar, well who wants a liar backing you? FYI, there is no "if". he's a liar.
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