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Jace posted some commentary over in the Donkey Kong Forum shoutbox. He was a bit circumspect in the shoutbox, indicating that they thought Guinness might do it, although he specifically reached out to Dwayne Richard and Tim McVey to gauge their reaction if it came to pass.

yeah i also saw the rumor in dkf, apparenlty it was the result of miscommunicatoins -- thats what happens when someone repeats someone who repeats someone and no original source

however, dread you seem to be saying this defnitively, and i didnt think you followed dkf, so i'm curious what your source is

Originally Posted by The Evener

Jace posted some commentary over in the Donkey Kong Forum shoutbox. He was a bit circumspect in the shoutbox, indicating that they thought Guinness might do it, although he specifically reached out to Dwayne Richard and Tim McVey to gauge their reaction if it came to pass.

For clarity - I did not say I thought or know what GWR is going to do. What they do is up to them. I am just fully aware that it is quite possible that they may make different decisions than TG, as they have done in the past, which is totally within their right to do.

It is important to understand that Twin Galaxies has no intention of saying anything to GWR in terms of what scores they choose to recognize or how they go about their business. Further - Twin Galaxies has absolutely no desire to actively try to prevent anyone from getting whatever recognition they can receive from other places.

There are many records that GWR recognizes that Twin Galaxies does not, and that is fine. We are different entities with different objectives.

Twin Galaxies and its community continue to work toward achieving the highest authentication standard in all of gaming, and nothing is going to change that. The TG community should be very proud of what it has been building here in the new era. What we do here matters.

GWR can and should do what it wants for its own best interests and if people think that GWR's choices somehow reflect on Twin Galaxies' in the short term then it is what it is.

If GWR decides to reinstate someone's (anyone's) score, then that is great for them. Absolutely no negative thoughts from me on my part or Twin Galaxies. People should celebrate their achievements, wherever they get them.

Regardless of what GWR chooses to do or no do in their own right, Twin Galaxies will not reinstate any score without definitive and objective evidence that the score is valid and warrants reinstatement.

It's up to the community to decide how they want to perceive GWR and Twin Galaxies based on the adjudicative decisions they make.

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I guess I'm curious why you reached out to some prominent gamers to gauge their reaction regarding a possible reinstatement at this moment if such a possibility has existed ever since TG rendered its decision, versus broaching this subject last year, or five months ago? So I guess my question is, what specifically prompted you to approach said gamers recently to ask them?

With the added opportunity to reflect on statement, I guess my overall assessment on how it impacts TG and the TG community will depend precisely on what Guinness possibly does soon or in the future regarding Mitchell's removed scores. I would find it minimum "problematic" if an entity that previously characterized TG as a "trusted source" for authenticated scores turned around and then decided to reinstate a score that was removed as a direct result of a TG dispute review determination, such as the finding that Mitchell did not use non-modified arcade PCB to achieve the 1.047 and 1.052 million scores. Of course we should turn the page and wish Mitchell well in his new life as a video game entertainer at comicons and related cultural conventions, but that doesn't mean that TG should be silent when a former partner entity possibly will or has already decided to cast shade on TG's role as the highest authentication standard in all of gaming.

And I don't mean that TG has to go to war against Guinness, but surely TG can be ready with a media release to be dropped on social media channels the day they possibly reinstate one or all the scores down the road that's basically an edited version of what you posted above.

Tipster dropped a new vid - about Guinness! You heard it hear -- second?

https://youtu.be/_kMouPJ4Lk8

Dwayne's original stream:

https://youtu.be/WRm7JLR2O-o

So, you all know who the Mullet Muppet is, then. Good, good. That revelation alone makes my spreading this ridiculous rumour worthwhile

Originally Posted by The Evener

I guess I'm curious why you reached out to some prominent gamers to gauge their reaction regarding a possible reinstatement at this moment if such a possibility has existed ever since TG rendered its decision, versus broaching this subject last year, or five months ago? So I guess my question is, what specifically prompted you to approach said gamers recently to ask them?

Nothing new about the conversation. I’ve had similar conversations for quite a while with various people to gauge opinion and get insight and thoughts.

Only thing new here is that Dwayne decided to talk about it in a more public fashion and some people paid more attention to it, which is fine because there’s nothing to hide and it’s just reality.

Originally Posted by The Evener

Tipster dropped a new vid - about Guinness! You heard it hear -- second?

https://youtu.be/_kMouPJ4Lk8

Dwayne's original stream:

https://youtu.be/WRm7JLR2O-o

Far out, how do you take what Dwayne said and come up with what Tipster said? Unbelievable.

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Who cares, Guinness is a joke, always has been. They mostly use other sources and compile them to their "book", they don't know the first thing about gaming. In their eyes, having the largest pokemon games collection would be some kind of great gaming achievement.

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Originally Posted by EVN

Far out, how do you take what Dwayne said and come up with what Tipster said? Unbelievable.

everytime someone posts a link to that guy its a new host and screenname. how many accounts does he get himself banned under? honestly, jace or dwayne replying to him just lend him legitamcy, i find it hard to believe more than 10 people on earth go to tipster for their news. every one of his stuff i've seen -- not that i've seen a lot -- is just repeating rumors, but quoting someone else to make it ok.
tipster, breaking news, the world is flat, but its technically accurate to say that since i'm just quoting someone who says the world is flat and giving my reaction to that

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People are quoted all the time when reporting on a situation or event, How else can someone talk about anything if you can't quote? Dwayne spoke for himself in the now removed video so it wasn't a complete fabrication. I know there's hate for how Tipster reported on the whole TG discord server - that's why I added Dwayne's link

well thats true the evener, but usually news wont just quote some random person with questionable info. theres usually supposed to be some vetting of the source. heck, you can even quote sources you highly suspect like flat earthers, but usually framing is key. you know, are you reporting that people actually believe this? or are you reporting that this is true and heres your source? is focus the person/group and learning what they believe, or is the focus the subject matter.

but yes tipster does at least cite his sources, so we at least have the ability for ourselve to decide just how unreliable we find them