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11-17-2019 at 05:12 AM
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Vzaar uploads, in advance of TG submissions

It is possible to ensure that your gameplay recordings are fully uploaded to Vzaar, before making a TG submission. Since I don't have a Vzaar account, I uploaded the following recording via TG submission form. I did not submit the form, so the recording will not appear anywhere but here.

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  1. Barthax's Avatar

    Just curious. I know you're not short on SP, so why not use the Upload & Submit button?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax
    Just curious. I know you're not short on SP, so why not use the Upload & Submit button?
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    Well, the whole point of this particular shenanigan is to show that it's not necessary to make a submission, when uploading recordings. You, in particular, should find this useful. Upload all those multipart recordings of yours, in whatever order is convenient, and bookmark them all. Once that task's out of the way, you can do your submissions, without having to use that non evidential video of yourself (unless, of course, you enjoy doing so). You already know how to use the Vzaar tag, and likely also know how to get Vzaar links to put into the sub form's "External Vzaar Video Link" field (which would put one recording at the top of the sub thread, above the sub message).

    That's the only drawback of uploading evidence, before making a submission. You can put just one recording up top, via the "External Vzaar Video Link" option. Additional uploads have to go into the submission's message box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock


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    Well, the whole point of this particular shenanigan is to show that it's not necessary to make a submission, when uploading recordings. You, in particular, should find this useful. Upload all those multipart recordings of yours, in whatever order is convenient, and bookmark them all. Once that task's out of the way, you can do your submissions, without having to use that non evidential video of yourself (unless, of course, you enjoy doing so). You already know how to use the Vzaar tag, and likely also know how to get Vzaar links to put into the sub form's "External Vzaar Video Link" field (which would put one recording at the top of the sub thread, above the sub message).

    That's the only drawback of uploading evidence, before making a submission. You can put just one recording up top, via the "External Vzaar Video Link" option. Additional uploads have to go into the submission's message box.

    Yeah, I knew about grabbing the Vzaar ID before the Copy under-bar appeared. I've helped others by yanking the ID out of their previous subs' HTML so they can re-use their submission vids. On a couple of occasions I've also uploaded someone else's vides (YouTube particulary) & pasting the Vzaar ID into their subs BITD. Good to know others are cottoning on - dissemination of knowledge. :) It's all on the forums but buried with everything else!

    The reason I still use the non-sub video in some subs is a combination of laziness and keeping things together. Like you point out, there's only one "External" you can use for the submission and in a multi-vid submission my evidence is often in the final video. Such a video will have many submissions so I'll submit a run in the first part, submit a run in the second part (first part in the comment), etc, etc. All the while I'm keeping a text file of the video with notes & vid IDs. Once each part is uploaded, it's just copy & paste from there on - I have a Tamper Monkey script which auto-fills the Vzaar option with that non-sub video every time I visit the page. This way, most of the submissions appear with ordered videos in the message portion - my preference to view in such circumstances.

    I'm always willing to learn how others process their subs - any little snippet here & there to improve my processes and if by describing my own processes, can help others in the manner/reasons I do mine, it's all good. :)

    Here's an example (Forza Horizon 3 in this case) of the kind of text file I keep (I've purposely munged the vzaar tags for the purpose of this post only):



    Blueprint Bucket: n/a
    Surpassed - Gorge Cross Country, Class A: 2:44.348, @1:19:10
    === Part 2 ===
    Done - Skill Points: 6143760, @Part 2 38:56 (2:09:14)
    ----
    Achieved on 20161217. Attempt begins around 41:22.

    Video in TG archive:
    [-vzaar]15069565[/vzaar]
    ----
    Achieved on 20161217. Attempt begins around 1:26:19 in Part 1 and concludes in Part 2.

    Part 1 video in TG archive:
    [-vzaar]15069565[/vzaar]

    Part 2 video in TG archive:
    [-vzaar]19899593[/vzaar]

    Updated 11-19-2019 at 06:32 AM by Barthax
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    (After some editing, I used a different example as the first one screwed up this page!)

  5. Almighty Dreadlock's Avatar

    Other than the things I've observed above, I have absolutely no advice to offer you. Your sub tracking process is several orders of magnitude more complex than mine. I submit in blocks of three!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

    Other than the things I've observed above, I have absolutely no advice to offer you. Your sub tracking process is several orders of magnitude more complex than mine. I submit in blocks of three!


    It doesn't stop you being of relevance. Keep posting the advice as you find it. :D

  7. Barthax's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

    Vzaar Video Url:


    Someone claimed 490 on one of my YouTube postings the other day. Good to see something above 468. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax
    Someone claimed 490 on one of my YouTube postings the other day.
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    I've noticed that HCR "players" are very much in the habit of making outlandish claims. Usually supported by nil evidence, of course. And I've seen a lot of "world record" performances on YT, containing moves which no human could possibly pull off. All done on emulators, of course.

    As for that 490, considering your driver's guaranteed dead at 430, travelling another 60 metres seems extremely unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

    As for that 490, considering your driver's guaranteed dead at 430, travelling another 60 metres seems extremely unlikely.

    He should be guaranteed dead at 425 also but you have a manipulation of the suspension to *just* avoid it. I do enjoy this aspect of the game: what might be missed!? Cyberscore's top score includes a pic of 494m. ;)


    Updated 11-28-2019 at 08:13 AM by Barthax
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax
    He should be guaranteed dead at 425 also but you have a manipulation of the suspension to *just* avoid it. I do enjoy this aspect of the game: what might be missed!? Cyberscore's top score includes a pic of 494m. ;)
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    I think we both know what a picture is worth (a thousand choice words, perhaps). Any place where pictures are enough for a record is a joke. Photoshopping is just too easy.

    You're an HCR expert, so you already know that the manoeuvre I pulled can get you past one neck breaking point, and that's it. The suspension's springing back upward, which is inevitable, is certain to kill your driver at 430 metres. Nothing to be "missed", in this case, I'd stake my ESI on it.
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    Vzaar Video Url:
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    Vzaar Video Url:
    Updated 12-07-2019 at 11:17 AM by Almighty Dreadlock
  13. Barthax's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

    Vzaar Video Url:


    I've yet to get back into positive Submission Points in order to add the Progression tracks. :( They're on my list. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax
    I've yet to get back into positive Submission Points in order to add the Progression tracks. :( They're on my list. :)
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    You mean Prognosis. Make a mistake like that, and you'll have a load of bad tracks for your precious points. Which makes me wonder. How is it that you need to spend more points? Can't you set up more tracks as derivatives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock


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    You mean Prognosis. Make a mistake like that, and you'll have a load of bad tracks for your precious points. Which makes me wonder. How is it that you need to spend more points? Can't you set up more tracks as derivatives?


    10 SP are needed to open the Add Track form and TG, in their infinite wisdom, supply me with "magic SP" every now and then which I spend. The daily recalculation then removes the "magic SP" leaving me with the need to earn the SP that were once there:


    Hehe, I do double-check & I have the tracks in my queue as Prognosis. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax
    10 SP are needed to open the Add Track form
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    But the points are not taken away, when you submit, I trust. Or they're refunded, however it works. Assuming that founding derivatives is an option for you. Which makes me wonder about something else. Do the derivatives need the usual 25 points to be activated, or is activation automatic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock


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    But the points are not taken away, when you submit, I trust. Or they're refunded, however it works. Assuming that founding derivatives is an option for you. Which makes me wonder about something else. Do the derivatives need the usual 25 points to be activated, or is activation automatic?

    Quick answer: if I had 10 SP, I'd be able to create the derivatives for free but I'm currently faced with:


    Every time I submit, 3 points are deducted but it goes deeper into a weird place. There was once a problem with the algorithm & TG's initial resolution when I went negative SP was to bung me (and kernzy & others) a bunch of SP to use while they worked on the fix for the algorithm. I'd happily spend that SP (and earn in the usual way from mine & others' submissions) but because of my backlog I was spending more SP than I was earning so was steadily getting deeper into the negative SP overall.

    One of the times I got back into positive SP, as a jest I set up the following track: https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/twin-galaxies-submission-points/milestones - I wasn't the only one experiencing this at the time, as mentioned. The worst negative was less (more) than -2000 SP and change (still haven't posted that one to the "track").

    This time around, the catalyst appears to be my wall post about "zero submission points". TG appear to have bunged me two lots of 60SP. Unfortunately, at the time I naturally assumed these to be received because of lots of old votes finally going through (there's still various Guitar subs from Jared, I think). So, anyway, I've "loaned" too much SP and have to earn it all back again.

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