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CHRIS "CCC" CRABTREE, THE SPLIT SCREEN BEATEN

In April 1983, Joystik magazine published a letter sent to them by Chris "CCC" Crabtree, from Union City in Tennessee. On Pac-man, he said, he discovered and achieved a method to get past the 256th board, which is the famous and not passable split screen. Joystik magazine wrote regarding the method, "we've tried it and it works". So this means at least two people have tried this method, and claim it works. Chris goes on to say he reached the 647th board, that's 392 boards after board 255.

1. Has anyone else ever tried the method that Chris described?

2. Logically, if the method does work, then 3,333,360 points would not be the highest points score achievable on Pac-man. https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/pac-man/mame and https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/pac-man/arcade/ as examples.

3. Would someone like to try this method to see if it works?

4. Does anyone know where Chris "CCC" Crabtree is today so he can be contacted? It would be interesting to hear further information from him, and perhaps also the Joystik representative who said the method used by Chris did also work.

5. Is this a myth or is it real? And if it's real, what exciting competition will there be and what new high scores will be achieved?

A blast from the past. Any takers?




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  1. Barra's Avatar

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  2. Max's Avatar

    Give CCC's strat a shot and let us know what happens OOO!


    Hopefully Walter didn't import joystik scores.

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  3. OOO's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Max

    Give CCC's strat a shot and let us know what happens OOO!


    Hopefully Walter didn't import joystik scores.

    This one is for you and the Pac-man experts. I have not seen this article mentioned in discussion in any forums. Perhaps someone knows something further about this article. The method described has not yet been proven to be false, however unlikely it seems.

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    Updated 07-10-2020 at 04:16 AM by OOO
  4. The Evener's Avatar

    I love Pac-Man lore, and being reminded of all the interest that this generated back in the day.

    Here's a thread from CAGDC that cites all of the Joystik articles/letters that reference the split screen:

    http://www.classicarcadegaming.com/forums/index.php?topic=3819.0

    The score value reflected in CCC's letter doesn't have any impact on the integer overflow error that creates the split-screen:

    https://techraptor.net/gaming/opinion/35-years-pac-man-kill-screen

    I'm not sure why Joystik magazine came out and endorsed CCC's method; might be the earliest example of trolling we have on the arcade scene.

    The only method I heard that works (and have seen some players confirm that this would work) was mentioned in the early 2000s - apparently if you set your Pac-Man game in MAME to infinite lives, you can eat the required 244 dots (by eating the respawning 9 dots over and over) to trigger the game to advance you to the next screen. I have never seen this method personally, it would be fun if someone wanted to try it out.

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  5. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    Here is something interesting the split screen Pac-Man highscore was 3,326,600

    Also, check out PacMan world record score at the time was 9,980,420 by Doug Nelson Date November 12, ?1983? at gameroom Fun Factory Bakersfield, California-> From Twin Galaxies International Scoreboard by Walter Day on page 63 in the April 1983 issue in Joystik magazine

    Check out some the Twin Galaxies International Scoreboard in April, 1983

    Zaxxon

    Leo Daniel game room Light Years amusement,Wrightville Beach, North Carolina, September 21,?1983? Marathon Robotron score 169,595,255 this not possible or it was a referee scoring error the highest last 3 digits will always be 975 on the original Robotron,

    Note when you turn the score over at 9,999,975 all previous Greatest Highscores are pushed back even it if they are 9,999,975 the first place score can be 25 or whatever, What it does it turns over/resets all the previous greatest highscores.

    Chris "CCC" Crabtree from Union City,Tennessee his aledged final score was 6,248,610, too bad it is not true.

    Getting the score 256 would be hard after completing 243 key board exactly before the split screen so it would skip the 244 Key board split screen, example in the thousands place in Pac-Man score ?,256,??0 the ones digit will always be 0 zero

    Here are some combinations of 256 get it exactly 256 or other combinations after 243 key board is finished would be hard to do in the first place. then skipping the 244 split screen Key board and skips to the 245 key board.

    1. 2,56?,??0

    2. ?,256,??0

    3. ?,?25,6?0

    4. ?,??2,560

    ?1. It would be interesting to try it out, hey Pac-Man masters try Chris "CCC" Crabtree tip trick out, to see if it works or not which I doubt it. You can rack advance to the 242 key board and make many attempts.

    Question #1. If I am correct, a while back someone patched the a PacMan game to go on forever and later did the same thing for Donkey Kong , when Wes Copeland and Robbie Lakeman tried it out to see how high they can score, if I am correct the goal was 3 million in Banning, California

    http://arcarc.xmission.com/Magazines%20and%20Books/Joystik%20Magazines%20(10%20Issues)/Joystik_Vol1-5_83-Apr.pdf

    Here is the article link from April issue 1983 Jostik magazine


    Updated 07-10-2020 at 07:12 AM by JJT_Defender
  6. Pearl2hu's Avatar

    epic

  7. Snowflake's Avatar

    the fact liars exist, were detailed, and sometimes fooled othesr isnt shocking. What is upsetting is the joystick writer lies and says he/she tried it and confimred it works. That makes me automaticaly lose all faith in anything else joystick claims to have verified.

    so unneeded to. they could've just said they werent able to do it, or will try to do it at some point later. the fact they felt the need to claim they confirmed when they didnt over something there was just no need to make that claim....

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  8. Snowflake's Avatar

    i wish i had the links ready, but i never felt the need to save them, and its not important enough to me to go find again, but i'm pretty sure i recall rtm mentinonig people looking for ways around the kill screen, and he even mentioned this one method as being looked into and not working

    also, didnt billy at one time put up some crazy high bounty, either a million or at least 100s of thousands of dollars to anyone who could pass the killscreen? only putting up such a high bounty to pretty much prove noone would keep a secret when paid that much divulge, and shocker noone was able to actually claim the bounty

  9. Marco1019's Avatar

    Perhaps it was an April Fool's joke, given that this was published in April? Just a thought.

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  10. Snowflake's Avatar

    interesting angle marco. i mean with a amagazine thats not just for one day, unlike modern day websites, it seems alot for a joke, but i guess its worth checking the may issue for any "hah did we get you" notes

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  11. Tracey's Avatar

    I am not a pacman expert I just like maths lol. Its actually easier than it looks to get the 256 in the score by the time you would hit what would be the kill screen if this theory is correct. Working backwards from the perfect 3326600 before the kill screen you would need to get 3256xxx and to do this you would need to miss between 69610 and 70600 points to get the 3256xxx needed. Keeping it as straightforward as possible it would be easiest to drop the points on the 1600 ghosts. Missing 44 1600 ghosts would give you a total of 70400 missed points which is within the margin needed and it would give you a score of 3256200. You would need 11 boards with all 4 power pellets missing the 1600 ghost to drop the 70400 points needed to get the 3256200 score by the time you hit what would be the kill screen assuming the rest of the game is played perfectly.

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  12. Marco1019's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    interesting angle marco. i mean with a amagazine thats not just for one day, unlike modern day websites, it seems alot for a joke, but i guess its worth checking the may issue for any "hah did we get you" notes

    I "thumbed" through the April issue and did not find any April Fool's references.


    Here's the link for the April 1983 issue (Volume 1, Issue 5):


    https://archive.org/details/joystik_magazine-1983-04


    Here's the link for the July 1983 issue (which is listed at Volume 1, Issue 6; they didn't publish in May or June):


    https://archive.org/details/joystik_magazine-1983-07



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  13. OOO's Avatar

    Great stuff on the comments.

    9,980,420 ... anyone know Doug Nelson at the Fun Factory in Bakersfield CA? Marco, maybe you can look him up.

    Then we have CCC and the Joystik writer. That's 3 people that would be good to find and have a yarn, about how and why?

    Pac-man has just as many stories as Donkey Kong, probably many more, in the 40th Anniversary of Pac-man in 2020.

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    Updated 07-10-2020 at 02:54 PM by OOO
  14. OOO's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    What is upsetting is the joystick writer lies and says he/she tried it and confirmed it works. That makes me automatically lose all faith in anything else joystick claims to have verified.

    So unneeded to. They could've just said they weren't able to do it, or will try to do it at some point later. The fact they felt the need to claim they confirmed when they didn't over something there was just no need to make that claim....

    Now that was a serious mistake by the writer at Joystik. Someone find this person and get them to talk.

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  15. OOO's Avatar

    There's a CCC in the white pages ... https://www.whitepages.com/name/Chris-Crabtree/TN/2?fs=1&l=TN&q=Chris+Crabtree

    Perhaps one of these people listed, is the famous CCC on Pac-man. Jason, this would make a great story, that would lead into other great stories.


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    Updated 07-10-2020 at 03:30 PM by OOO
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