Created BY:swaggers11-03-2022 03:35 PM

Dragster NTSC 1B 5.54 Challenge

You don't even need to be as good as Todd Rogers to get this bounty! Just be the first to submit a valid TGSAP run on official NTSC hardware and get a time of 5.54.

WIN 1000 SUBMISSION POINTS

Bounty Rules

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/dragster/atari-2600-vcs/ntsc-game-1-difficulty-b-fastest-time/page/1?ref=fbshare

Use official NTSC hardware and approved carts to get a TGSAP approved record of 5.54. 1 spot to claim. First submitter through TGSAP gets the prize.

Please place any questions, comments or concerns in the discussion thread below!

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Jlemory1 -

Wasn't this proven impossible?

-justin-

ChihiroAE21 -

Todd Roger's "time" was 5.51, which was proven to be falsified.  The max record time of 5.54 is the only possible time that can be achieved.  Any time less than that is impossible.

bensweeneyonbass -

Some members have already achieved this time through TGSAP. You may want to specify that it's for a newly adjudicated submission if that's your intent. You do already allude to that - "first submitter through TGSAP gets the prize" - but it wouldn't hurt to specify that.

swaggers -

5.57 is the best score in TGSAP at this time.

bensweeneyonbass -

You are correct. Thanks for the correction. Ok everyone get to work!

Barthax -

I know the 5.54 was allegedly claimed possible by the Activision Developers.  Then there's a hacked Dragster version which disables the blowout permitting sub-5.57.  Is there a claim anywhere for a genuine played attempt achieving 5.54?

spectre -

Wasn't it proven, by examining the program code, that it's impossible to go below 5.57? I believe it was also debunked on the Ben Heck show

danman1234 -

It was proven by multiple people who verified the code that a 5.57 is the lowest time possible and you only have a 1 in 8 chance of getting that with a "perfect" run. If you miss the one in 8 chance you will get a 5.61 even with "perfect" inputs. A TAS is out that has the longest "distance "achieved while getting a 5.57 and its still leagues away from a 5.54. I think this is cool but ain't happening... :D

Rogerpoco -

Ya-

Person that started this challenge is a Bro, for sure, haven't talked to him in a while, prolly should, random hello soon.

5.57 is the fastest that can be done, for real. There's no faster.

To the GP that "know what they are talking about", this challenge popping up on the main wall is kinda cringe-worthy, like..."baiting" the past, when we are trying to cull out the bad stuff, and move on from it.


I hope somehow this is removed/retracted someday. 

It's just not a good look.

I feel bad, being the one to feel the need to say, but I do, as someone who knows the game as well as...mebbe three other people on the planet.


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