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01-24-2018 at 01:31 PM
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Not allowed to participate in Dragster

I guess I am no longer allowed to participate in the Dragster thread. Oh well. Seems odd, since all I did was ask a question that has gone unanswered. I wasn’t toxic, nor was I cluttering up the thread.

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  1. DadsGlasses's Avatar
    Apparently asking a question about what further evidence is needed to satisfy the dispute is “spam and clutter”? That seems odd. I would think that actually answering that question would decrease spam and clutter?

  2. Blackflag82's Avatar
    Apparently clutter is the new toxicity and what qualifies is arbitrary. My comment was deleted and im not seeing a note that a comment was deleted (something I believe Jace said would be occurring since the disputes are permanent and all). There are a handful of other deleted commentsenrioned in my feed as well. Just when you thought it couldn't get any more absurd.

    i wonder if anyone will read this before it's deleted. Come on TG, get your act together and stop acting like amateurs!
  3. DadsGlasses's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackflag82
    Apparently clutter is the new toxicity and what qualifies is arbitrary. My comment was deleted and im not seeing a note that a comment was deleted (something I believe Jace said would be occurring since the disputes are permanent and all). There are a handful of other deleted commentsenrioned in my feed as well. Just when you thought it couldn't get any more absurd.

    i wonder if anyone will read this before it's deleted. Come on TG, get your act together and stop acting like amateurs!
    Its so weird. The question I asked wasn’t in any way toxic. It wasn’t clutter. It pertained to the dispute.
  4. Blackflag82's Avatar
    I wonder if we'll get another one of those "this was done rashly by TG admin and some posts have now been reinstated" from Jace again like last time with the heavy hand. But even if we do, it's become too little too late by now.
  5. Snowflake's Avatar
    I think its interesting when intelligent, respected, professional members are getting wacked. Friendly hint, if you see respected members as in opposition to the site, then maybe the site needs to change.

    Compare the effects some rude people had on the site their "toxicity" to the effect the handling of dragster is handling. Go ahead and tell me todd, triforce, and the overall handling off the thread arent the most toxic things to tg to date. LIke toxic, poision, killing TG. Time is a factor, this needs to be fixed before its too late.
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  6. Megamatt79's Avatar
    I have a feeling that this is the result of a technical issue with this site at the moment . Specifically, if you go to the dispute section of the forums, it appears to be currently displaying the live adjudication queue, not the list of active disputes. I am thinking that something got crossed up and the dispute links have been temporarily broken as a result. Just my initial read on the situation, for what it's worth.
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  7. Streetwize's Avatar
    It's not just you. Many people are restricted from viewing the forum, including guests. Watch me get restricted for blowing that whistle. :P
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  8. Blackflag82's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Megamatt79
    I have a feeling that this is the result of a technical issue with this site at the moment . Specifically, if you go to the dispute section of the forums, it appears to be currently displaying the live adjudication queue, not the list of active disputes. I am thinking that something got crossed up and the dispute links have been temporarily broken as a result. Just my initial read on the situation, for what it's worth.
    that would be an incredible coincidence...multiple deleted posts and a ban.necause of system error? Seems unlikely
  9. DadsGlasses's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Megamatt79
    I have a feeling that this is the result of a technical issue with this site at the moment . Specifically, if you go to the dispute section of the forums, it appears to be currently displaying the live adjudication queue, not the list of active disputes. I am thinking that something got crossed up and the dispute links have been temporarily broken as a result. Just my initial read on the situation, for what it's worth.
    I was sent a PM from Twin Galaxies stating that I was banned for one week. I was asked not to Spam or clutter the thread.

    I asked specifically why I was banned, but I didn’t receive an answer.
    Updated 01-24-2018 at 03:07 PM by DadsGlasses
  10. Blackflag82's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by DadsGlasses
    I was sent a PM from Twin Galaxies staring that I was banned for one week. I was asked not to Spam or clutter the thread.

    I asked specifically why I was banned, but I didn’t receive an answer.
    what was the question you asked?
  11. DadsGlasses's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackflag82
    what was the question you asked?
    I repeated @Omnigamer s unanswered question that goes something like: “What is it about the current body of evidence that is leaving you incapable of rendering a decision?”
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  12. Streetwize's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by DadsGlasses
    I repeated @Omnigamer s unanswered question that goes something like: “What is it about the current body of evidence that is leaving you incapable of rendering a decision?”
    Omnigamer asked that question again and Jace dodged it, again. He's not gonna answer it.
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  13. The Evener's Avatar
    Party on DadsGlasses Wall!

    Gotta eat first - but lots to talk about!!

    Heavy Hand = Arbitrary Hand? Discuss
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  14. Snowflake's Avatar
    I believe some people were explicitly banned from the thread.

    However, a poor user interface (again something i've been trying to give advice on) is misleading people. You now have to be signed in to view the thread. A professional programmer would give a message like "you must be signed to view this thread". However, TG opted to go with "You have no permission to view this thread" -- without explaning why making people think they're either banned or its a private forum.

    The poor programming is only exacerbating the other issues.
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  15. DadsGlasses's Avatar
    I just got an answer from @TWIN GALAXIES . It wasn’t really an answer at all. Basically it was them repeating that I was cluttering the thread. No further explanation.

    The strange part about this is that answering this question would go a long way to REDUCE clutter in the thread.

    Give people some direction on what more is needed. People have been asking for direction for weeks.
  16. DadsGlasses's Avatar
    I am sympathetic to the fact that Twin Galaxies is struggling with this dispute. Twin Galaxies knew that this Dispute would be important. This was the score that was teased when Jace announced the upcoming dispute system.

    The dispute has dragged on and on. It’s changed the very nature of the dispute system itself. What was once lauded as “permanent and transparent” is now being heavily censored and moderated.

    Now there are many people outside of Twin Galaxies watching the dispute thread. Every comment about Twin Galaxies is more negative than the last. I haven’t seen one single comment along the lines of, “Wow, Twin Galaxies is handling this situation really well!” or “Jace Hall is representing the gamers of Twin Galaxies so well!” Unfortunately it’s all negative.

    So a question about “what is needed?” shouldn’t be deleted or ignored, in my opinion. A person that asks that question shouldn’t be banned. If Twin Galaxies would answer the question, it would help the dispute in a positive way.
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  17. Streetwize's Avatar
    They really are doing damage control at this point. I'm seeing a bunch of deleted posts myself. It's clear they have some sort of agenda. I'd honestly be fine if this was Todd's only fake score. Nobody's perfect; a mistake could have been forgiven, but there are plenty of other disputes with relevant evidence disproving several other of his claims. The editorial is making this all sound like some sort of religion where Rogers is a god. I really wish I was joking about that, but with messages like "Jace is taking an agnostic stance" as well as "Skeptics coming to disprove Todd Rogers" makes me wonder what's really going on behind the scenes of TG.
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  18. CWK's Avatar
    Seen a couple posts before they got deleted and I guess we were lied to because there is no note to say a post/posts have been deleted.
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  19. CWK's Avatar
    Never question the heavy hand. No soup for you. Come back, one week
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  20. Devmicco's Avatar
    I was following the thread closely as just an interested party, suddenly I had to log in to even SEE the thread, I already couldn't post in it. I assume they are trying to cover it up because there's a spike in public traffic.

    This whole todd thing seems like a joke at this point, post edits w/o any notice, this brand new "clutter" rule all of a sudden that seems essentially like nebulous bull**** and an excuse to block out the thread.

    Why dont they reveal these so called "clutter" posts to the public so we can confirm they arent actually honest/fair AND on topic questions like the above?

    That's common sense. Pro tip: refusing to be publicly responsible leads to people no longer respecting you/thinking they shouldn't care about you. At this point any record holders might consider sending in their actual proof to their own retro speed games communities instead of some site that has FAILED to protect its community.
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