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When Get the Chance Can you Help get
Lauren Featherstone Arcade Tapper 14,000,600 Completed Video Uploaded to Twin Galaxy for Permanent Record Thank You
Here is the Video Below:


from FreePlayArcade

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/174479-Arcade-Tapper-Points-Marathon-14-000-600-Lauren-Featherstone

Arcade - Tapper - Points [Marathon] - 14,000,600 - Lauren Featherstone

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Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

When Get the Chance Can you Help get
Lauren Featherstone Arcade Tapper 14,000,600 Completed Video Uploaded to Twin Galaxy for Permanent Record Thank You
Here is the Video Below:


from FreePlayArcade

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/174479-Arcade-Tapper-Points-Marathon-14-000-600-Lauren-Featherstone

Arcade - Tapper - Points [Marathon] - 14,000,600 - Lauren Featherstone


Jjt is just high again. Everything about that submission is fine plus it was accepted a year and a half ago. He just likes making clutter. He was even in that submission making nonsense due to his skipping to key points and not even watching what he complains about. No scoreboard error there in fact no error of any kind other than him making error

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The Twitch Video of Arcade - Tapper - Points [Marathon] - 14,000,600 - Lauren Featherstone has NOT BEEN UPLOADED DIRECTLY TO TWIN GALAXY. For Permanent Record in Twin Galaxy Archives for Future.

Something May Happen the TWITCH Video in Twin Galaxy Archive it will not be LOST and Can be Watched Again.



I am Sure you Understand William Rosa ,And CONGRATULATIONS on Reclaiming the Arcade Marathon World Record on Tapper


#1. I Did the Total Complete Adjudication on the Tapper for All Twin Galaxy Members to See & Verify it is in the Thread

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/174479-Arcade-Tapper-Points-Marathon-14-000-600-Lauren-Featherstone/page3

Twin Galaxy Members Can Read My Reply's 23,29,13


God Bless You


Snowflake Said: Jjt is just high again.

And You Should Talk. No No !


Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake



Jjt is just high again. Everything about that submission is fine plus it was accepted a year and a half ago. He just likes making clutter. He was even in that submission making nonsense due to his skipping to key points and not even watching what he complains about. No scoreboard error there in fact no error of any kind other than him making error

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Fair enough I just remember the submission was fine, i forgot it was with a permanent highlight twtich link not direct upoad-- acceptable at the time


1. JJT if you can answer please why is this a scoreboard error? you are cluttering this thread with nonsense get whatever drugs you are on out of your system


2. There are many many twitch permanent highlights of accepted submissions do you intended to bring them all up, and bring them innapropriatley up in this thread no less? Twin Galaxy members want to know since 100s of accepted submssions are like this, do you plan to make 100s more posts. I think so.


3. Threads are permanent and transparent. Staff should not edit accepted threats like you are suggesting. That would be sin against god and lie. The thread shows what we twin galaxy members accepted. To change that evidence after the fact would be a big lie to future generations viewing the thread. for shame. you lie alot whhy, maybe becasue you high? Twin Galaxy can not and should not lie for you though.


4. Lauren may choose to resubmit if she so desire with direct uplaod. But she does not have to. Not your choice. permanent highlight still works. all good, AOK.

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Simple Answer: Twin Galaxy Passed a Rule that All Video Must be Uploaded Twin Galaxy in Accepted Archives, If Not the Record Score Will Be REMOVED.


Please Open Eyes William Read Carefully:

I Simply was Asking Twin Galaxy Staff to Upload Lauren Arcade Tapper Twitch Video that Broke your World Record of 10 million with 14 Million Points, to Accepted Archives for Permanent Record Keeping it for the Future. If not, it will be Removed.


No Need to Make False Accusations against me, your Insults & Your Immature ways Bait me into mess. This Really Amusing and Funny.


I Promoted,Advocated to Get Lauren WR Arcade Marathon Tapper Accepted. I Adjudicated with Capture Pictures and Time Stamps of the Start,Game Settings,Final Score,Stats on Each Million Points etc.


It sound like you are Jealous of Lauren that she may come back and Break your WR Again.


2. 3. that would be silly. Your Banter is Funny.


Congratulations William Rosa again on Your Marathon World Record on Arcade Game Tapper.

God Bless you William and your Family and Friends May God be in your Heart and Soul


QUOTE=Snowflake;bt37021]

Fair enough I just remember the submission was fine, i forgot it was with a permanent highlight twtich link not direct upoad-- acceptable at the time


1. JJT if you can answer please why is this a scoreboard error? you are cluttering this thread with nonsense get whatever drugs you are on out of your system


2. There are many many twitch permanent highlights of accepted submissions do you intended to bring them all up, and bring them innapropriatley up in this thread no less? Twin Galaxy members want to know since 100s of accepted submssions are like this, do you plan to make 100s more posts. I think so.


3. Threads are permanent and transparent. Staff should not edit accepted threats like you are suggesting. That would be sin against god and lie. The thread shows what we twin galaxy members accepted. To change that evidence after the fact would be a big lie to future generations viewing the thread. for shame. you lie alot whhy, maybe becasue you high? Twin Galaxy can not and should not lie for you though.


4. Lauren may choose to resubmit if she so desire with direct uplaod. But she does not have to. Not your choice. permanent highlight still works. all good, AOK.

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Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

Simple Answer: Twin Galaxy Passed a Rule that All Video Must be Uploaded Twin Galaxy in Accepted Archives, If Not the Record Score Will Be REMOVED.



This does not belong in the errors thread. There is no error here. The twich link still works. If at any point in the future it does not work, you can dispute it. But as of right now, everything is still cool man

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Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

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It sound like you are Jealous of Lauren that she may come back and Break your WR Again.


2. 3. that would be silly. Your Banter is Funny.


God Bless you William and your Family and Friends May God be in your Heart and Soul


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1. jealous my ass you're the one that tred to get her submission rejected due to blind voting an just skipping to key points rather than watching whole vidoe so you accused her of not showing board just because the baord wasnt shown at part you skipped too.

2. i agree it would be silly, thank you, yet that s what you're suggesting. so you admit it would be silly for any other submission, yet you waste time asking for it on this submission. just as silly, even more silly due to hypocrisy of only wanting it for one person but not others. the twin galaxy days of special treatment are over. if its silly for everyone else its silly for you too

3. you are welcome to youre relgion and i wont debate rleigion on tg, but i am welcome to not be part of your religion. you god that allows such nonsense and lies will find no place in my heart and soul. you are free to worship any god you like, but dont try to push your nonsense on me. may satan one day leave your heart and soul

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heres an error to address

since ignoring jjt still clutters the thread and my notifications regardless can this bug either be fixed, or jjt banned from this thread. pretty much of all twin galaxies is subcribed to this thread, so his clutter here affects far more people, and its an important thread that i dont want to unsubscribe from. he's had track creation requests go on and on here, advice on ajdudication requrests, suggestion for track rules changes, suggestion for uploads and tampering with permanent evidence, yet not reporting scoreboard errors.

Please consider either removing this bug, or removing jjt from this thread in particular.

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Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake




Hilarious.






That fellow in the hat sure is handsome though.....

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Quote Originally Posted by Rogerpoco



Dude, Snow...

You spelled Religion three different ways, in ONE sentence!!!

:P

Third time is the Charm, I guess!

:)


We live in a fly by night World anymore, tbh I'm not a fan of twitch uploads-I was a moderator for a couple of channels on Justintv, the precursor to Twitch(...Racing and Wrassling, lol), and it doesn't exist anymore.


If TG ever goes away, and everything we do is lost to time, so be it, but I do prefer evidence to be uploaded directly, same as I prefer seeing console power up, etc-like it or not, no two ways around it, it is a safer bet to have a video directly uploaded to TG, you never know when an upload site is going to shut down.


understandable roger. i'm not sure if you read all my posts though let me expain. Would you want every already adjudciated submission to retroacitvely have admin download video for? clearly going forward the rule is direct upload, and for good reason. in fact before it was the rule, i was one of the people who would abstain on twitch links -- i made a singular exception for marathons since the uploader couldnt handle them.

so yes, direct upload is preferable. but jtt here is looking at a submission that passed ajduciation 1.5 years ago, the submission is over, and hes asking a completed submission to be modified with direct upload. completed submissions should not be modifid. not only is that problematic for the obvious reasons of editing permanent threads evidence after the fact, but it begs the question why that one sub and no others? or do you really think it should be all. additionally some people purposely chose not to direct uplaod and that was their choice, they didnt want tg having the data. granted, anyone taking that attiude loses my vote, but its still their choice.

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Just for the record, I do not like the fact a TGSAP score can be disputed that doesn't have video evidence prior to April 2018 when they changed the rule. They need to be proven to have done something wrong or the game itself malfunctioned. Todd Rogers anyone? No video evidence and it took a **** load of evidence to get rid of that. It's no different than any submission that has been accepted by a referee or video.


For some reason though, I see any score that has been accepted in TGSAP era, even prior to the Apr 2018 mandatory upload policy, will be an auto removal because that is just where the community seems to be at this point. Even if the submission thread has nothing but positive remarks towards the evidence when it was accepted, I believe they will be instantly removed for no other reason than missing video. Might as well remove every score pre-TGSAP since there is zero video evidence. Hell, most don't even have a thread.


This doesn't belong here but some of the above remarks made me think of this. And as the "good looking guy in the hat" pointed out, there are a majority of the members subscribed to this thread so at least I know it will be seen once and can be commented on elsewhere.

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Well remeber the direct upload rule was added due to people not voting on third parties due to an early rule saying any missing evidence would be removed. In fact it would be impossible to remove scores for missing video after the rule since well they’re all direct uploaded. There are two exceptions though. I no longer challenge moves (not to be confused with missing) twitch links because even though the rules allow such a challenge someone pointed me to a thread indicating such scores would be safe and changing the rules aren’t fair. Also anything on third party before direct upload was an option is supposed to “partially” protected from challenge whatever that means


As for the score discussed here the twitch link is permanent and in no danger of challenge

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Quote Originally Posted by thegamer1185

Might as well remove every score pre-TGSAP since there is zero video evidence. Hell, most don't even have a thread.





There was no "upload policy" pre-TGSAP, only referees adjudicated. No public threads.

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oh i wish to, well not retract my statement, but retract the tone. Kyle I see you were just stating you didnt like the rule, but also acknowledged it is the rule. Of course you're welcome to your opinion. you factually stated the events, and shared your opinion on it. I misread your opinion as a statement on when its ok to challenge.

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Quote Originally Posted by Marcade



There was no "upload policy" pre-TGSAP, only referees adjudicated. No public threads.


Correct, and that is my point. I'm seeing scores in the first years of TGSAP being disputed for no video evidence when they are the same thing as referee submitted scores. What makes them different is that the TGSAP scores have threads that you could read through to see if there was ever any questions that got asked/answered or left open. If there is a TGSAP score that no longer has video evidence but has nothing but positive posts, I don't understand why it should be challenged unless someone can prove the score is not possible. Not just "no video, remove it". I don't like that thought process I guess. It comes off as disrespectful or unappreciative IMO to the submitter. Compare the previous example to a TGSAP submission that has questions about a tactic, a long discussion with people still unsure of the tactic but still gets accepted. I would be much more comfortable with that score being disputed than the score that has nothing but positive comments.


I know many of you aren't doing it to be disrespectful and in this day and age it's pretty much "upload your evidence or it's removed", but the score was accepted. It's shameful a TGSAP score can simply be removed for video going missing, but to remove a referee verified score you need a team of criminal investigators and lawyers just to start the process, haha. I also know about Jace's comment regarding uploading from a few years back how people who don't upload to TG could have their scores removed and it's being taken as gospel, when it wasn't actually the law. It's law now, and I don't think Jace really understood how awful it was for many of us to upload to TG. There is a **** load of threads and comments about how many of us couldn't upload to TG, is that not ever going to be taken into account for those submissions? I would hope so. Hell, I'm proof that the TG system is much better. I couldn't upload to TG at all and you all know I tried. Now I can, and I do. I would hope if any of my scores submitted back then had a video removed for whatever reason that would be considered. I would hope that would be true for everyone. That's how I see this whole thing I guess.


It is what it is and I get it. I understand it. I understand all of your thoughts on it, but any TGSAP accepted submission that has missing evidence is literally no different than any score pre-TGSAP. They are all accepted and have no evidence to view for either, yet one is OK to dispute and the other isn't? Guess that's why I don't dispute anything unless it's due to scoring errors or someone asks me to open one for them, haha.


Everything said above is obviously about scores prior to the Apr 2018 upload policy. Every submission post Apr 2018 that has missing evidence, absolutely dispute it. Policy wasn't followed. I won't ever think any different of anyone for wanting to dispute a score that has missing video, we all think what we want. I sincerely hope if you are going to dispute the score, everything is looked at before you do. Who it was, the difficulty of uploading back then, what was said in the thread, and of course your own recollection of the submission if you did vote on it.

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Quote Originally Posted by thegamer1185
[SNIP] - lots of great points


I was one of several that thought the early YouTube-only TGSAP would be ring-fenced as though pre-TGSAP scores but that ship has sailed.


What we have left is, I think, the one part you've not explicitly considered: that TGSAP is a shift in veracity for TG. Any submission via TGSAP should stand the scrutiny of time and can only be scrutinised if the original evidence remains.

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As of April 2018, absolutely. Pre Apr 2018 when people who had cable internet type speeds couldn't even upload to TG for whatever reason, not so much. Haha. I do love the new system. It leaves no doubts now with submissions. That's how it should be.


You don't think I'm curious, or even just flat out intrigued to watch some of those old scores? Hell yes I am. But we cant. I do wish that whatever TG had in it's possession for older submissions got uploaded for that exact reason.

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As of April 2018, absolutely. Pre Apr 2018 when people who had cable internet type speeds couldn't even upload to TG for whatever reason, not so much. Haha. I do love the new system. It leaves no doubts now with submissions. That's how it should be.


You don't think I'm curious, or even just flat out intrigued to watch some of those old scores? Hell yes I am. But we cant. I do wish that whatever TG had in it's possession for older submissions got uploaded for that exact reason.

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Indeed, and it helps keep the bogus scores in the database.

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Exactly. I'm not trying to hold pre Apr 2018 TGSAP scores to that standard which is why I say look at the whole picture before you dispute one of those scores. There is a thread to look at and review, the uploading system was awful, who is the player who submitted the score, do you recall anything specific about the thread. If all those answers point to no foul play and the ONLY thing you are disputing is "video evidence went missing", that to me is not enough to dispute the score. And you could simply ask the person what happened to the video as well.

I don't know. I guess I don't like to see any score removed that has already been accepted into the data base unless it's proven to be a scoring mistake, or cheated.

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