Originally Posted by thegamer1185

Exactly. I'm not trying to hold pre Apr 2018 TGSAP scores to that standard which is why I say look at the whole picture before you dispute one of those scores. There is a thread to look at and review, the uploading system was awful, who is the player who submitted the score, do you recall anything specific about the thread. If all those answers point to no foul play and the ONLY thing you are disputing is "video evidence went missing", that to me is not enough to dispute the score. And you could simply ask the person what happened to the video as well.

I don't know. I guess I don't like to see any score removed that has already been accepted into the data base unless it's proven to be a scoring mistake, or cheated.

I actually submitted a score today, as the video in my previous TGSAP approved submission went missing.
I think there will be quite a few of these in a similar position.
I agree with @TheGamer on all points.

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Originally Posted by thegamer1185

Exactly. I'm not trying to hold pre Apr 2018 TGSAP scores to that standard which is why I say look at the whole picture before you dispute one of those scores. There is a thread to look at and review, the uploading system was awful, who is the player who submitted the score, do you recall anything specific about the thread. If all those answers point to no foul play and the ONLY thing you are disputing is "video evidence went missing", that to me is not enough to dispute the score. And you could simply ask the person what happened to the video as well.

I don't know. I guess I don't like to see any score removed that has already been accepted into the data base unless it's proven to be a scoring mistake, or cheated.

ok i think you are and i are closer on this point, if i may put words into your words are you talking about leaving "good faith" uploads alone?

I repeatedly bring up that there was in fact a policy that video had to be permanent. for that reason, yes missing videos do violate that older policy, so the fact they didnt violate the direct upload only policy which didnt exist yet they did violate another policy. Now if you're just talking about good faith thirdy party non-direct uplaods that went missing i'm muhc more sympathetic. What about people though that purpsoley removeed their video after acceptance? At that point they very intentionally violated hte policy and hid their evidence. Can we agree those should be challenged?

As for the good faith ones, thers an area where i fully agree with you. consider jared oswald losing many video from guitar hero getting copyright strikes. thats good fiath on his part in my opinion. he then even reuploaded. i thoughtit was unfair, that after he reuploaded but before the new submission was approved there was a rush to challenge his old scores before they were replaced. whats the point of that? just hurt peoples cred? just feel proud you made alot of disputes? i would not challenge someone's score if there doing something to rectify it. going with that though, as jared has shown, anyone who really was acting in good faith can always reupload unless they're banned, in prison, or no longer living. tgsap is recent enough i dont think (and i hope not) there have been any deaths of tgsap submitters so i have little sympathy for the other causes of not being able to resubmit

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Pretty much. That's why I'm saying look at the entire submission as a whole. The thread, the video as you remember it if you did in fact adjudicate it, and the main point it seems for you, myself and many others I'm sure, the who. There are a few people we are aware of that the "good faith" just simply won't apply anymore for specific reasons. Even they are starting to realize with the new policies that they can't get around them anymore or else their submissions won't be accepted. Which is a great thing. However, their older submissions are still around.

I do not wish to see any score disputed for disputing sake or for fear the evidence could go missing. I want their to be a problem with the score itself. Hell, just this last month, TG lost some scores because of a bug or whatever it was that happened....so **** can happen at any time to anyone. I guess that is my point as to why I don't like seeing scores being disputed for videos disappearing. If it's in the database, I expect every score to be protected like the Dragster and DK disputes. Simply evidence going missing shouldn't be enough, although very unfortunate and inconvenient.

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@thegamer1185 but what will spiteful haters with an agenda do against RJF if they can’t dispute his scores? Kappa

I’m with you on this. I vote in good conscience at the time and I’ve taken hits bc of YT vid challenges. To hell with that.

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Originally Posted by bensweeneyonbass

@thegamer1185 but what will spiteful haters with an agenda do against RJF if they can’t dispute his scores? Kappa

I’m with you on this. I vote in good conscience at the time and I’ve taken hits bc of YT vid challenges. To hell with that.

@bensweeneyonbass stop being troublemaker. Keep this thread professional, or your post will be deleted.

Originally Posted by datagod

@bensweeneyonbass stop being troublemaker. Keep this thread professional, or your post will be deleted.

Quote the Troll, never more.

Thanks there THX1138. Real insightful.

Duplicate tracks due to typo:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/guitar-hero-5/nintendo-wii/21st-century-schizoid-man-iron-maiden-guitar-easy-points/page/1?ref=fbshare

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/guitar-hero-5/nintendo-wii/21st-century-schizoid-king-crimson-guitar-easy-points/page/1?ref=fbshare

There's a submission on the track with the typo (name of the band).

Typo in a Tom Petty song: "All American Girl" should be just "American Girl" as can be verified in Jared's footage.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/guitar-hero-5/nintendo-wii/?track=all%20american%20girl

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Hello! I have found a few scoreboard errors for Summer Games II for the Commodore 64:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/summer-games-ii/commodore-64/

The following tracks/events should display two decimal places instead of rounding up to the nearest tenth:

Javelin - Meters: The max for this event is 101.31. The records are displayed as 101.3 which is incorrect.

High Jump - Meters: The max for this event is 2.50M. The current record should be displayed as 1.85 and not rounded up to 1.9.

This goes for EMU, NTSC, and PAL. Thank you in advance.

Originally Posted by Marco1019

Hello! I have found a few scoreboard errors for Summer Games II for the Commodore 64:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/summer-games-ii/commodore-64/

The following tracks/events should display two decimal places instead of rounding up to the nearest tenth:

Javelin - Meters: The max for this event is 101.31. The records are displayed as 101.3 which is incorrect.

High Jump - Meters: The max for this event is 2.50M. The current record should be displayed as 1.85 and not rounded up to 1.9.

This goes for EMU, NTSC, and PAL. Thank you in advance.

UPDATE: The Triple Jump track/event should also display two decimal places.

So to recap, the following tracks should display two decimal places instead of rounding up to the nearest tenth:

EMU-Javelin-Meters

NTSC-Javelin-Meters

PAL-Javelin-Meters

EMU-High Jump-Meters

NTSC-High Jump-Meters

PAL-High Jump-Meters

EMU-Triple Jump-Meters

NTSC-Triple Jump-Meters

PAL-Triple Jump-Meters

Thanks!

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/save-new-york/commodore-64/emu-points/

If you navigate to that page, click on my "5,650" score link or the "[Vote]" and you will see the page doesn't exist.. probably something with the URL routing perhaps? I doubt a score would just go missing...

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/198806

I made a mistake and the track name is incorrect, please, delete it:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/easysubmit.php?variation_id=219017

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Twin Galaxy Can you Fix the Rule for the Bonus Man at 20k it should be at 30k & at Every 50k up to 230,000 Points Fisrt Bonus Man is at 30k,80k,130k,180k and 230k

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/199358-M-A-M-E-Indiana-Jones-and-the-Temple-of-Doom-Set-1-Points-Easy-Path-7-Lives-489-310-Martin-Racine

Rules
ROMSet: indytemp
Internal Defaults
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Number of Starting Lives: 3/7 [One-Credit / Two-Credit]
Maximum Number of Extra Lives: 5
Difficulty Level: medium

Extra Life Interval: increasing From 20,000

Special Rules: The above are the default internal settings for this title and need not be changed. This is a Two Credit [7 Starting Lives] ONLY variation for the Easy Path.

Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

Twin Galaxy Can you Fix the Rule for the Bonus Man at 20k it should be at 30k & at Every 50k up to 230,000 Points Fisrt Bonus Man is at 30k,80k,130k,180k and 230k

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/199358-M-A-M-E-Indiana-Jones-and-the-Temple-of-Doom-Set-1-Points-Easy-Path-7-Lives-489-310-Martin-Racine

Rules
ROMSet: indytemp
Internal Defaults
-----------------
Number of Starting Lives: 3/7 [One-Credit / Two-Credit]
Maximum Number of Extra Lives: 5
Difficulty Level: medium

Extra Life Interval: increasing From 20,000

Special Rules: The above are the default internal settings for this title and need not be changed. This is a Two Credit [7 Starting Lives] ONLY variation for the Easy Path.

please do not "fix" this rule or make any changes based on jjt nonsense

he's not a mame expert and neither am I, i'd love to hear @terencew or any other mame expert chime in i hate that someone as inexperienced has to speak up, but i cant sit by and let jtt try to muck up the scoreboard knowing the staff has preiovulsy ruined rules without proper research, so what i'm saying may be wrong but it'll have to do until an expert can give better info

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/167489

as you see the equivalent arcade track gives lives according to how the rules state

jjt however noticed the mame submission above gets lives at different point so he wants to change the rules just so that this sub can be accepted. no different than how hes wanted to change rules in the past just to reject a sub. I honestly dont know if the above sub used wrong settings, or if theres a difference with mame between versions, i do know the rules should NOT be changed. JJT repeated requrests to change rules just so that he can either accpet or reject as he pleases regardless of actual rules is no basis for a rules change.

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There is NO BONUS LIFE at 20,000 Twin Galaxy Rule: Extra Life Interval: increasing From 20,000

That is a FACT Here are the Time Stamps to Prove it and the Capture Picture Seeing is Believing Proved you Wrong Again . You are Nick Picking Just Trying to Stir Trouble

So their be No Confusion on the Bonus Rule it is a World Record by Martin Racine Expert Play

Rules
ROMSet: indytemp
Internal Defaults
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Number of Starting Lives: 3/7 [One-Credit / Two-Credit]
Maximum Number of Extra Lives: 5
Difficulty Level: medium

Extra Life Interval: increasing From 20,000

Special Rules: The above are the default internal settings for this title and need not be changed. This is a Two Credit [7 Starting Lives] ONLY variation for the Easy Pat

Bonus Life at 1. 30,000,2. 80,000,3. 130,000,4. 180,000, 5. 230,000 is at 14:52,11:48,8:09,7:21 Left on the video

Originally Posted by Snowflake

please do not "fix" this rule or make any changes based on jjt nonsense

he's not a mame expert and neither am I, i'd love to hear @terencew or any other mame expert chime in i hate that someone as inexperienced has to speak up, but i cant sit by and let jtt try to muck up the scoreboard knowing the staff has preiovulsy ruined rules without proper research, so what i'm saying may be wrong but it'll have to do until an expert can give better info

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/167489

as you see the equivalent arcade track gives lives according to how the rules state

jjt however noticed the mame submission above gets lives at different point so he wants to change the rules just so that this sub can be accepted. no different than how hes wanted to change rules in the past just to reject a sub. I honestly dont know if the above sub used wrong settings, or if theres a difference with mame between versions, i do know the rules should NOT be changed. JJT repeated requrests to change rules just so that he can either accpet or reject as he pleases regardless of actual rules is no basis for a rules change.

There is nothing wrong with the rules. The in game setting is labeled as "20,000", so that is correct from a rules standpoint. The fact that the game does not do that, but instead does it at 30,000, would be an error with how the game was made.

Bottom line - the wording of the rules matches the wording of the actual settings. Nothing needs to be fixed.

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Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

There is NO BONUS LIFE at 20,000 Twin Galaxy Rule: Extra Life Interval: increasing From 20,000

That is a FACT Here are the Time Stamps to Prove it and the Capture Picture Seeing is Believing Proved you Wrong Again . You are Nick Picking Just Trying to Stir Trouble

So their be No Confusion on the Bonus Rule it is a World Record by Martin Racine Expert Play

Rules
ROMSet: indytemp
Internal Defaults
-----------------
Number of Starting Lives: 3/7 [One-Credit / Two-Credit]
Maximum Number of Extra Lives: 5
Difficulty Level: medium

Extra Life Interval: increasing From 20,000

Special Rules: The above are the default internal settings for this title and need not be changed. This is a Two Credit [7 Starting Lives] ONLY variation for the Easy Pat

Bonus Life at 1. 30,000,2. 80,000,3. 130,000,4. 180,000, 5. 230,000 is at 14:52,11:48,8:09,7:21 Left on the video

really man this is my problem with you. it is not "nitpkcing" that i dont want you mucking with the rules. i'm pedantic and proud, details matter, but its hardly pedantic or nitpicky to not want you rewriting rules on a track that already has so many submissions under the original rules. besides if it was "nitpicking" and such a small matter then why are you arguing and trying to change the rules to begin with?

and no you didnt prove me wrong, you showed screenshots proving part of what i said while ignoring the rest of the evidence i provided. the only thing you "proved" is that even when faced with facts you are too stupid to comprehend them and continue to try to hurt twin galaxies. you have been proven wrong numberous times, this time included clear as day, yet continue to ignore and try to trick people.

again please do not change the rules the way jjt is asking. he's just mad the rules dont work the way he wants and he'd rather pick fights than learn how to adjudicate properly

now since jjt likes screenshots so much, in case admin is taking him seriously and not clicking on links, here you go.

bonus lives at

20k, 50k, 100k, 150k, 200k

showing first life is at 20k

showing next life is at 50k

showing 3rd life is at 100k

4th life 150k

5th life is 200k but apparently i can only include 4 screenshots per some weird programatic rule

this is why this terrible adjudicator deserves every penalty he gets and no i dont think penalty is harsh it is too light if anything. he gets many votes and he uses those that credibility to try to influence others and vote wrong.

I would be shocked if anyone took @JJT_Defender seriously anymore. His constant spamming nonsense on legit submissions and lack of knowledge combined with demanding rule changes on submissions he has no clue on should be the tell tale sign. He is completely clueless when it comes to Twin Galaxy. The fact he has any kind of weight on adjudicating is simply a flaw in the system and a pain on submitters. If this was my house I would of warned him a couple of times and then gave him the ban hammer. It's not my house though so there for people are stuck with putting up with nonsense, lies, and spam. Word of the wise when JJT suggests something .99% of the time he is right unless you take in consideration his p.o.r.n. tabs in screenshots. I would assume those would satisfy 100% Deity Blessed

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