Originally Posted by wwdkong

https://www.twingalaxies.com/jace-hall/wall/10683/tg-top-priorities/page/3#comment81822

the comment yesterday 5/31 at 12:49 AM.

Yea I saw that, wasn't sure if it was the same thing or not. That comment was probably my impetus for leaving this one.
Well....thats an unfortunate side effect. The ESI tracker on the side of every leaderboard lists everyone's government name, might as well do it in that list too. Or at least put the name they have chosen at the time, be it birth name or alias, and just leave that be forever. Thats my opinion anyway. It pretty convenient having that name there.

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The following Ultra Street Fighter 4 track shows the rules invisible:

Track: https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=199327

Submission example: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/246190-PlayStation-3-Ultra-Street-Fighter-4-Points-1-237-000

Rules can only be seen when highlighting them with the mouse or CTRL+A:

Difficulty = Hardest Rounds = 3 Time Limit = 99 Bonus Stages = On Special Rules: This is a Single Player ONLY Variation for Arcade Mode. You may freely choose your controller configuration. You may freely choose from any available character. Continues are NOT allowed!

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Duplicate Sega Genesis track:
https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/teenage-mutant-hero-turtles-the-hyperstone-heist/sega-genesis-sega-mega-drive

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The game Pinball Jam on the Atari Lynx has a single track with invalid rules. The track is owned by Twin Galaxies and has a single score on the track from 2004, so no footage is available to evaluate. The track's title does indicate the player must use the Police Force table (two tables exist in the game).

The existing rules are:

"This game has no settings for the player to select, therefore no specific rules apply. Please use default settings. "

There are no defaults to the game as the player has to make a conscious choice to begin the game by either choosing "A" for "EASY GAME" or by choosing "B" for "HARD GAME" (capitalisation is game's depiction). As the score comes from the "every home console game can be played on Easy" days of Twin Galaxies, could TG see their way to explicitly adding "Easy Game" to either the track title or the rules, please.

Pinball Jam: https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/pinball-jam/atari-lynx/police-force/

Example footage:

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No real sure if this is the proper place to say this, but I noticed something odd concerning ESI.
Normally, in my experience anyway, ESI for a particular performance is not calculated and added to a leaderboard or an individuals ESI total until AFTER that performance has been accepted. You will see here I submitted a performance on the Sega game RoadBlasters and if you look at the ESI on the side of the page you'll see my ESI has not been calculated yet:
https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/roadblasters/sega-genesis-sega-mega-drive/ntsc-points/
After that gets accepted mine and everyone else on that leaderboard will have our ESI recalculated, giving me about 1 ESI point and everyone above me an additional ESI point.

OK, thats all fine, thats how this works in my experience, but I was looking at the Sega Genesis Tetris leaderboard and noticed on the ESI chart on the lefthand side of the page that user Simon Laroche has already been given 4.54 ESI when his submission hasnt been accepted yet, and very well may not be accepted.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/tetris/sega-genesis-sega-mega-drive
I went to his page to see if the ESI had yet been added to his ESI totals, and indeed it has
https://www.twingalaxies.com/simon
He has a total of 8.10 ESI, 3.56 of which came from Tetris on Phillips CDI, which has been accepted, but the other 4.54 ESI comes from his Sega Tetris submission, which has NOT been accepted, and may not be.

Request: update the Elevator Action MAME tracks

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/points
https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/points-twin-galaxies-extreme-settings
https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/points-adeca-2004-only-variation

Recent ROM change information

0.106 - 0.177: "Elevator Action", 'elevator'
0.178 - 0.220: "Elevator Action (5 pcb version, 1.1)", 'elevator'
0.221 - 0.243: "Elevator Action (EA, 5 PCB version, 1.1)", 'elevatora'

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Request: update the Elevator Action MAME track

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/highest-score

Rule rewriting. Note: the following rewriting does not make any changes, but does add recent ROM change information.

Delete everything, and replace with:-

This score tracker ranks players who have played a game of Elevator Action, according to how many points they have scored

ROMs (for MAME versions):-
elevator (0.106 - 0.220)
elevatora (0.221 - 0.243)

The following DIP switch settings are mandatory:-
Lives: 3
Difficulty: Easiest
Invulnerability (Cheat): Off

The following DIP switch settings are recommended:-
Bonus Life: 10,000
Free Play: Off

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Request: update the Elevator Action MAME tracks

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/highest-score
https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/highest-scor1077

Additional information rewriting. Note: the following rewriting does not make any changes, but does add recent ROM change information.

Delete everything, and replace with:-

ROM history
0.106 - 0.177: "Elevator Action", 'elevator'
0.178 - 0.220: "Elevator Action (5 pcb version, 1.1)", 'elevator'
0.221 - 0.243: "Elevator Action (EA, 5 PCB version, 1.1)", 'elevatora'

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Request: update the Elevator Action MAME track

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/highest-scor1077

Rule rewriting. Note: the following rewriting does not make any changes, but does add recent ROM change information.

Delete everything, and replace with:-

This score tracker ranks players who have played a game of Elevator Action, according to how many points they have scored

ROMs (for MAME versions):-
elevator (0.106 - 0.220)
elevatora (0.221 - 0.243)

The following DIP switch settings are mandatory:-
Lives: 3
Difficulty: Easy
Invulnerability (Cheat): Off

The following DIP switch settings are recommended:-
Bonus Life: 10,000
Free Play: Off

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Request: update the Elevator Action MAME tracks

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/points
https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/points-twin-galaxies-extreme-settings
https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/points-adeca-2004-only-variation

Rule correction

Replace

ROMSet: Elevator

with

ROMSet: 0.106 - 0.177: elevator - "Elevator Action"
0.178 - 0.220: elevator - "Elevator Action (5 pcb version, 1.1)"
0.221 - 0.243: elevatora - "Elevator Action (EA, 5 PCB version, 1.1)"

Delete

Recent ROM change information

0.106 - 0.177: "Elevator Action", 'elevator'
0.178 - 0.220: "Elevator Action (5 pcb version, 1.1)", 'elevator'
0.221 - 0.243: "Elevator Action (EA, 5 PCB version, 1.1)", 'elevatora'

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Request: update the Elevator Action MAME track

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/highest-score

Rule correction

Replace

ROM: Elevator.

This score tracker ranks players who have played a game of Elevator Action, according to how many points they have scored

ROMs (for MAME versions):-
elevator (0.106 - 0.220)
elevatora (0.221 - 0.243)

The following DIP switch settings are mandatory:-
Lives: 3
Difficulty: Easiest
Invulnerability (Cheat): Off

The following DIP switch settings are recommended:-
Bonus Life: 10,000
Free Play: Off

--=**FOR POTENTIALLY FASTER VERIFICATION**=--

Members of the adjudicating user base who assist the community in MAME INP file analysis have requested that submitters consider the below community recommendations -

Submitters should use MAME version 183 or higher, preferably 183 or 220.

Submitters should name their inp and zip file in the following manner:

xxx_yyy_score_zzz

Example:

elf_bosco_588800_w183.inp inp
elf_bosco_588800_w183 zip file
so name the inp the same as the zip

xxx your initials
yyy rom name
zzz version of wolfmame
_separator

with

This score tracker ranks players who have played a game of Elevator Action, according to how many points they have scored

ROMs (for MAME versions):-
elevator (0.106 - 0.220)
elevatora (0.221 - 0.243)

The following DIP switch settings are mandatory:-
Lives: 3
Difficulty: Easiest
Invulnerability (Cheat): Off

The following DIP switch settings are recommended:-
Bonus Life: 10,000
Free Play: Off

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Request: update the Elevator Action MAME track

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/highest-scor1077

Rule correction

Replace

ROM: Elevator.

This score tracker ranks players who have played a game of Elevator Action, according to how many points they have scored

ROMs (for MAME versions):-
elevator (0.106 - 0.220)
elevatora (0.221 - 0.243)

The following DIP switch settings are mandatory:-
Lives: 3
Difficulty: Easy
Invulnerability (Cheat): Off

The following DIP switch settings are recommended:-
Bonus Life: 10,000
Free Play: Off

--=**FOR POTENTIALLY FASTER VERIFICATION**=--

Members of the adjudicating user base who assist the community in MAME INP file analysis have requested that submitters consider the below community recommendations -

Submitters should use MAME version 183 or higher, preferably 183 or 220.

Submitters should name their inp and zip file in the following manner:

xxx_yyy_score_zzz

Example:

elf_bosco_588800_w183.inp inp
elf_bosco_588800_w183 zip file
so name the inp the same as the zip

xxx your initials
yyy rom name
zzz version of wolfmame
_separator

with

This score tracker ranks players who have played a game of Elevator Action, according to how many points they have scored

ROMs (for MAME versions):-
elevator (0.106 - 0.220)
elevatora (0.221 - 0.243)

The following DIP switch settings are mandatory:-
Lives: 3
Difficulty: Easy
Invulnerability (Cheat): Off

The following DIP switch settings are recommended:-
Bonus Life: 10,000
Free Play: Off

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Request: update the Elevator Action MAME track

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/highest-score

Additional information correction

Replace

ROM: elevator.

ROM history
0.106 - 0.177: "Elevator Action", 'elevator'
0.178 - 0.220: "Elevator Action (5 pcb version, 1.1)", 'elevator'
0.221 - 0.243: "Elevator Action (EA, 5 PCB version, 1.1)", 'elevatora'

21 Mar 2018: Original rules were full of HTML tags that are only visible when a user views the rules (i.e. people who don't have editorial access), these have now been tidied up. Original text was as follows:


ROM: elevator.

.

This score tracker ranks players who have played a game of Elevator Action, according to how many points they have scored.

.

The following DIP switch settings are mandatory:-

.

Lives 3

Difficulty Easiest

Invulnerability (Cheat) Off.

.

The following DIP switch settings are recommended:-

.

Bonus Life 10,000

Free Play Off.

with

ROM history
0.106 - 0.177: "Elevator Action", 'elevator'
0.178 - 0.220: "Elevator Action (5 pcb version, 1.1)", 'elevator'
0.221 - 0.243: "Elevator Action (EA, 5 PCB version, 1.1)", 'elevatora'

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Brief typo in a track title by myself. Could the following track be altered to read 5 Laps and not 2 Laps, please.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/gran-turismo-7/playstation4/world-circuits-americas-northern-isle-sunday-cup-northern-isle-speedway-race-2-laps-time/page/1?ref=fbshare

Thanks. :D

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Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

Request: update the Elevator Action MAME track

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/elevator-action/mame/highest-score

Rule correction

Replace

with

--=**FOR POTENTIALLY FASTER VERIFICATION**=--

Members of the adjudicating user base who assist the community in MAME INP file analysis have requested that submitters consider the below community recommendations -

Submitters should use MAME version 183 or higher, preferably 183 or 220.

Submitters should name their inp and zip file in the following manner:

xxx_yyy_score_zzz

Example:

elf_bosco_588800_w183.inp inp
elf_bosco_588800_w183 zip file
so name the inp the same as the zip

xxx your initials
yyy rom name
zzz version of wolfmame

This rule is set at the platform level so we cannot remove this just for one track.

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Originally Posted by admin staff

This rule is set at the platform level so we cannot remove this just for one track.

It ought to be removed from all tracks, then, because it's nonsense. Renaming INPs does absolutely nothing to facilitate INP analysis, and likely does just as little to speed up adjudication. But what do I know? All I do around here is INP analyses and MAME adjudication

Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

It ought to be removed from all tracks, then, because it's nonsense. Renaming INPs does absolutely nothing to facilitate INP analysis, and likely does just as little to speed up adjudication. But what do I know? All I do around here is INP analyses and MAME adjudication

This naming suggestion was the result of a fairly lengthy community discussion and request to put it in place.

Originally Posted by Jace Hall

This naming suggestion was the result of a fairly lengthy community discussion and request to put it in place.

That may well be so, but the fact is that, during analysis, INPs are treated as having the same name as the ROM being used. So, renaming INPs is utterly pointless. If you'd like to confirm this, take a look at the "What MAME thinks" section of any of the analyses I've posted

Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

That may well be so, but the fact is that, during analysis, INPs are treated as having the same name as the ROM being used. So, renaming INPs is utterly pointless. If you'd like to confirm this, take a look at the "What MAME thinks" section of any of the analyses I've posted

I dont doubt what you are saying. At the moment I cant recall specifically why the community wanted the naming to be this way but I'm fairly certain it did not relate to the point you make above. I believe it was in response to some other set of concerns/desires.

I will try to find it when I get time and we can see if the rationale still makes sense today.

Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock

That may well be so, but the fact is that, during analysis, INPs are treated as having the same name as the ROM being used. So, renaming INPs is utterly pointless. If you'd like to confirm this, take a look at the "What MAME thinks" section of any of the analyses I've posted

Some history is behind this:

Humans behave differently and not everyone does things the same way. Some analysers preferred to download a bunch of INPs, extract them all and then process the extracted content - they're not necessarily doing so to supply comment on the threads.

The convention of supplying the analyses is something I wished I hadn't started. :P