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05-29-2019 at 10:39 AM
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It's time to do the right thing. Part 2

INTELLIVISION

ASTROSMASH - now under dispute - click HERE to vote

ATLANTIS - now under dispute - click HERE to vote

BEAUTY AND THE BEAST - now under dispute - click HERE to vote

B-17 BOMBER - now under dispute - Click HERE to vote

DONKEY KONG - score entry into TGIS was intentionally omitted
Frank Ryan - 277,500 - INTV DK event, which included former TG Ref S. Knox.

DRAGONFIRE - score entry into TGIS was intentionally omitted
Brian Segel - 12,300 - Putative track leader: Former TG ref T. Duncan. (8,950)

LOCK 'N' CHASE - now under dispute - Click HERE to vote

NIGHT STALKER - now under dispute - Click HERE to vote === Frank Ryan - 110,700 - score id=58442

PITFALL - now under dispute - Click HERE to vote === Brian Segel - 104,981 - score id=58443

Click HERE to dispute - TRON DEADLY DISCS - Randy Saunders - 10,941,400 - score id=58444

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  1. Snowflake's Avatar

    fyi since beauty and the beast outlaws "leeching" its especially ridiculous to accept photos or honor system. how the heck do you verify which methods were used when photo alone will do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    fyi since beauty and the beast outlaws "leeching" its especially ridiculous to accept photos or honor system. how the heck do you verify which methods were used when photo alone will do?

    Great questions, but this situation is even more egregious than that. Something is little as photo evidence of these scores were never seen by any TG official, nor by any official of an affiliate of TG's, because according to the magazine's own admission, they weren't required for publication in the magazine. These scores were simply transposed from the magazine, and no other effort was made to determine the veracity of these claimed scores. Furthermore, specifically for the Atari 2600 scores, the variations played in the alleged performances were never disclosed to the magazine, nor were the difficulty settings. These scores weren't "refereed", "reviewed", "adjudicated", "witnessed", or anything else, because there was nothing to referee, review, adjudicate, or witness. It was simply a "Oh?!? Look at this video game magazine on this here grocery store magazine rack. Oh my! It has a high score list! I'll just type these into TGIS!", and that was literally the extent of scrutiny these scores have ever had.

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    some info on atari 2600. many scores used to be players choice. then they all had "default" added. problem is, you cant just revert them all back to players choice since some really were default and some werent. defaults were all changed to 1b -- the most hillarious cause of this is he-man where "b" means game 3 but "a" means game 1, so the rules literally mean "play on dfficulty 1, no wait 3"

    most of the time its moot since default is the easiest. however, pac-man is one example where 1b is NOT the easiest and so theres very good reason to believe the older scores played on much easier setting than the rules currently require.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    some info on atari 2600. many scores used to be players choice. then they all had "default" added. problem is, you cant just revert them all back to players choice since some really were default and some werent. defaults were all changed to 1b -- the most hillarious cause of this is he-man where "b" means game 3 but "a" means game 1, so the rules literally mean "play on dfficulty 1, no wait 3"

    most of the time its moot since default is the easiest. however, pac-man is one example where 1b is NOT the easiest and so theres very good reason to believe the older scores played on much easier setting than the rules currently require.


    Agreed. In the case of the Atari 2600 Frogger bogus entry, whoever entered these bogus scores in felt compelled to place them under the "Game 3-A" difficulty track, which is quite peculiar given what they appeared to do with the rest, which was put them under the default category. Neither Game 3, nor difficulty A could have possibly been the default for any game, much less Frogger. Ridiculous.


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    Lock 'n' Chase is being disputed by me.

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