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09-19-2020 at 08:07 AM
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  1. Garrett Holland's Avatar

    If I don't have an answer, Ill tag someone who I think does.

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    Hi All,

    New to the forum and have been reading up as much as I can. I see that in order to submit a score I need a video and .inp file for it to be accepted.

    I'm struggling with the .inp file because I am have an authentic arcade cabinet where I have installed a Raspberry Pi3 which is using Retroarch with Emulation Station (Comic them Frontend). The emulator is lr-Mame which uses MAME2003 (v078 romset). I see that the preferred MAME option is WolfMAME but this cannot run on a Raspberry Pi and is PC based only (from what I have researched). Therefore, I cannot record the screen or create a .inp file via my setup.

    My intended method was to use my iphone to record the dipswitch settings of my game by entering the menu and listing them to seeprior to me inputting a coin and starting the game. Then I would record my gameplay with video footage. I have been uploading to YouTube but understand I would need to upload here after compressing the original video footage with one of the software programmes available.

    Can I ask if I am wasting my time with the above on this forum or does anyone know how I can create a .inp file please? I have no desire to cheat the system or lie about my scores. That's just sad in my opinion. I will be challenging some of the world records on this site so if you want to have another record breaker as part of your gaming community then please help.

    Thanks in advance,

    Sean (SJM AKA DtM2000)

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    I thought I'd pop back and see if anyone had replied. Going to bump this post because I would love to be part of this community and be able to add my high scores as mentioned above. can anyone help please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DtM2000

    I thought I'd pop back and see if anyone had replied. Going to bump this post because I would love to be part of this community and be able to add my high scores as mentioned above. can anyone help please?


    @Barra?

  5. D.B. Cooper's Avatar

    Raspberry Pi has it's own leaderboard but I'm afraid there aren't many scores that have been submitted. You can find it by clicking on TG RECORDS/VIEW LEADERBOARDS. On the left is a list of the Platforms that TG has leaderboards for. If you want to compete on MAME, you'll need to get yourself a PC and download a version of Wolfmame. There's a tutorial somewhere that has the process of downloading MAME and producing inp's.

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    Thank you for taking your time to reply. I appreciate it.

    Because I am using a Raspberry Pi with RetroArch and EmulationStation I am unable to get a .inp file for verification and WolfMAME is not available on a Raspberry Pi, being PC only.

    Therefore, it would seem that I will be unable to submit scores with evidence strong enough to get verified because the only method I will have is video footage.

    Can one of you please confirm that is correct and I'll go about my business playing games, setting unverified world records lol


    Quote Originally Posted by D.B. Cooper

    Raspberry Pi has it's own leaderboard but I'm afraid there aren't many scores that have been submitted. You can find it by clicking on TG RECORDS/VIEW LEADERBOARDS. On the left is a list of the Platforms that TG has leaderboards for. If you want to compete on MAME, you'll need to get yourself a PC and download a version of Wolfmame. There's a tutorial somewhere that has the process of downloading MAME and producing inp's.

  7. Garrett Holland's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by DtM2000

    Thank you for taking your time to reply. I appreciate it.

    Because I am using a Raspberry Pi with RetroArch and EmulationStation I am unable to get a .inp file for verification and WolfMAME is not available on a Raspberry Pi, being PC only.

    Therefore, it would seem that I will be unable to submit scores with evidence strong enough to get verified because the only method I will have is video footage.

    Can one of you please confirm that is correct and I'll go about my business playing games, setting unverified world records lol


    Not correct. You can submit a performance on any game on any platform. In the event a track (category specifically for your game) does not yet exist for a particular platform (in this case, "Raspberry Pi"), then one (or many) can be added so you can submit to it/them. In the event you do not yet have enough submission points to donate for its creation (35 total), I can guarantee you the community will create it and fund it for you and you don't have to do anything but ask for it to be done. In this case, tell me what game and what platform specifically (and any rules you may want to add that may deviate from the global rules), and I will not only create the track, but fully fund it for you as well.

    Here is how to tell if a track exists for your game on the Raspberry Pi:

    Step 1: Navigate your browser to https://www.twingalaxies.com/games

    Step 2: That should take you here:


    Step 3: Along the left pane, scroll down until you see Raspberry Pi, then click right on the name "Raspberry Pi"

    After you do that, if you scroll back up to the top of the page, you will see the right side populated with existing Raspberry Pi tracks, which currently looks like this:

    If the games you want aren't on here, let me know and I'll gladly add them for you. Also, anyone can add tracks (not just me) ... even you can, however, I would recommend that while you are still new to the site, just ask others to do it for now and save your submission points to use for submitting scores, because they are always hard to come by when you first start. After awhile, you'll notice that you will earn submission points (by adjudicating other people's submissions) faster than you can spend them.

    Hope this helps!

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    Updated 10-13-2020 at 01:07 PM by Garrett Holland
  8. Snowflake's Avatar

    I dont think the problem is your evidence is off, i think the problem is your confused over platform. For example theres a donkey kong game for the colecovision, but even with perfect evidence someone wouldnt be allowed to submit that score to donkey kong arcade. you mentioned an "authentic cabinet" i think you're getting hung up on the housing and the actual system. a rasberri pie in a cabinet or outside a cabinet is still a rasberry pie. likewise a real arcade board inside a cabinet or outside a cabinet is still a real arcade board. it would also make no sense to submit inp for a pie, thats just for mame. you seem to be conflating mame, arcade, and raspberry pie.

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    Ah yes ... Snowflake makes a great point that I overlooked. An INP is NOT required for any performace submitted on the Raspberry Pi platform, so just your video evidence should be sufficient. Naturally, I would recommend including the DIP settings in the footage you will be recording, but even then, Im not even certain THAT is a requirement under a Raspberry Pi submission.

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    Ah okay that makes sense to me. Thank you for taking your time to reply and explain in great detail. I really appreciate it. I'll take a look at the above and submit games in the Raspberry Pi section. I was getting confused because I am using a MAME version on my Raspberry Pi.

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    @Garrett Holland Please could I have the following games added of which I have records and videos ready for submission. Once I have enough points I'll build up the database myself and help contribute to this amazing community.

    1942,

    Pac-Land,

    Twin Cobra,

    Nemesis,

    Choplifter,

    Pang,

    Salamander,

    Wonder Boy.

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  12. Snowflake's Avatar

    adding a track (a way to play a game) requires a rule set. we'll need to know if its points, time (speedrun, endurance), or antyhing else. any tactics outlawed. if you can forsee a tactic someone whiner might not like but you know should be allowed try to explicilty allow it.

    side note. we're all pretty competitive. some more so than others. i'm not embarassed to admit i wanna compete on "most tracks", but i do hold myself to standards. despite being competitive i'll only create such tracks if i feel justified, so rather than spam tracks i instead weight patiently and salivate at the opportunity like this to make good tracks for others. you'd be doing me every bit as much a favor by letting my take credit as "track founder" as i'd be helping you by making them. i'm VERY happy to create good tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    adding a track (a way to play a game) requires a rule set. we'll need to know if its points, time (speedrun, endurance), or antyhing else. any tactics outlawed. if you can forsee a tactic someone whiner might not like but you know should be allowed try to explicilty allow it.

    side note. we're all pretty competitive. some more so than others. i'm not embarassed to admit i wanna compete on "most tracks", but i do hold myself to standards. despite being competitive i'll only create such tracks if i feel justified, so rather than spam tracks i instead weight patiently and salivate at the opportunity like this to make good tracks for others. you'd be doing me every bit as much a favor by letting my take credit as "track founder" as i'd be helping you by making them. i'm VERY happy to create good tracks.


    Understood. Is there a track template I can fill in with all of the information to help make it thorough and robust?

    I have looked at some similar and found this an example,

    1942

    Note: Dip Switches, will give the following Twin Galaxies Tournament Settings, used for this title;

    3 Lives To Begin
    Bonus Life @ 20,000 & 80,000 and every 80,000 thereafter
    Normal Difficulty

    Points based.

    Special Rules: This is a Single Player ONLY Variation! Continues are NOT allowed!

    MAME Emulator = lr-mame.

    Romset = 1942.zip

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    Updated 10-23-2020 at 02:03 PM by DtM2000
  14. Snowflake's Avatar

    yes there is. heres what it looks like when you make a track. fyi, dips only make sense i think with mame and arcade for the most part, most other consoles still have "settings" but yes if you're doing a pie emulator dips matter.


    you do always have to say if higher or lower score is better since on rare occasion a lower score is better than a high one

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