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Jace Hall
05-23-2022 at 04:14 PM
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TG Top Priorities...

Wanted to get some community perspective on this.

Please list what YOU think TG's TOP 3 priorities should be for the next 3 months.

For clarity, my asking this does not mean that TG will necessarily agree with the prioritization presented, but regardless - What is YOUR opinion?

Let's go! :)


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  1. timmell's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall


    Would the community be opposed to TG deleting any proposed Track that is unfunded after 90 days?

    I wouldn't. But I suggest make the " create track section more visible on the website. I usually forget about it, unless I want to create a track, or someone contacts me privately to donate.

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  2. BotzaBrand's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by timmell


    I wouldn't. But I suggest make the " create track section more visible on the website. I usually forget about it, unless I want to create a track, or someone contacts me privately to donate.


    Or maybe make video like a channel trailer explaining the voting / creating leaderboard process.

    But being able to search through the proposed leaderboards by consoles or some kind of filters would be nice. Can see how backlogs get lost in the shuffle

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  3. Whilethekidsareaway's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall



    Removed.


    Thank you for removing it from the queue but how do we get it off our personal board?

  4. Evan's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall


    In regard to the State of the Galaxies request, I agree that having more interaction/discussion more frequently would be helpful. It is just that I have been very busy on other matters for quite some time - HOWEVER - I am going to be getting a little more time to dedicate here soon and so I was thinking of perhaps having a community ZOOM conference call periodically to connect and discuss TG matters. Would that be something the community would want?

    This is a pretty cool idea @Jace Hall :)

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  5. LAH16's Avatar

    I have a suggestion. Change time scores so that you are able to submit time scores of 0:0.0. I recently just submitted a run of the Catcher Chocobo minigame in Final Fantasy X on PlayStation 2 and the best possible score you can achieve in that game is 0:0.0 but you aren't able to do so. The closest you can do is put 001 in the millisecond slot. So again, a suggestion I'd like to just throw out there is changing time scores so that you can submit 0:0.0 time score runs as a priority.


    Here is a link to my run so that everyone can see that it is possible to achieve time scores of 0:0.0 in a video game.


    PlayStation 2 - Final Fantasy X - NTSC - Catcher Chocobo [Best Final Time] - 00.001 (twingalaxies.com)

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    Updated 05-27-2022 at 02:13 PM by LAH16
  6. JennyBlue91's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by LAH16

    I have a suggestion. Change time scores so that you are able to submit time scores of 0:0.0. I recently just submitted a run of the Catcher Chocobo minigame in Final Fantasy X on PlayStation 2 and the best possible score you can achieve in that game is 0:0.0 but you aren't able to do so. The closest you can do is put 001 in the millisecond slot. So again, a suggestion I'd like to just throw out there is changing time scores so that you can submit 0:0.0 time score runs as a priority.


    Here is a link to my run so that everyone can see that it is possible to achieve time scores of 0:0.0 in a video game.


    PlayStation 2 - Final Fantasy X - NTSC - Catcher Chocobo [Best Final Time] - 00.001 (twingalaxies.com)

    Yes, please!

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  7. stella_blue's Avatar

    Automatic Scoreboard Updates


    I first reported this problem more than 15 months ago, in February of 2021 (link below):

    Incomplete Processing of Accepted Score Disputes

    The issue has never been resolved.

    The problematic situation can arise in several ways. The following is the most common:

    A player has MULTIPLE scores accepted under a given track. The player's top score is disputed. The dispute is successful and the score is removed from the scoreboard. Because the player has OTHER accepted submissions for that same track, the NEXT BEST score should automatically replace the score that was removed. Unfortunately, that does NOT happen.

    Consider these 4 tracks (there are plenty of other examples):

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=131897

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=132230

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=132234

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=172445

    For each track, click the View All Submissions button. Compare the accepted submissions to the items that actually appear on the scoreboard. The problem should be obvious.


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  8. Jace Hall's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by stella_blue

    Automatic Scoreboard Updates


    I first reported this problem more than 15 months ago, in February of 2021 (link below):

    Incomplete Processing of Accepted Score Disputes

    The issue has never been resolved.

    The problematic situation can arise in several ways. The following is the most common:

    A player has MULTIPLE scores accepted under a given track. The player's top score is disputed. The dispute is successful and the score is removed from the scoreboard. Because the player has OTHER accepted submissions for that same track, the NEXT BEST score should automatically replace the score that was removed. Unfortunately, that does NOT happen.

    Consider these 4 tracks (there are plenty of other examples):

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=131897

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=132230

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=132234

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=172445

    For each track, click the View All Submissions button. Compare the accepted submissions to the items that actually appear on the scoreboard. The problem should be obvious.


    I understand the concept above, however I am not convinced that historical submissions should act as an ongoing automatic backlog replacement list for a player when the player's current occupying score is disputed successfully.

    Are there other scenarios that you can provide that illustrate the problem you are describing that are not dispute related?

    Updated 05-27-2022 at 03:09 PM by Jace Hall
  9. sdwyer138's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall


    I understand the concept above, however I am not convinced that historical submissions should act as an ongoing automatic backlog replacement list for a player when the player's current occupying score is disputed successfully.

    Are there other scenarios that you can provide that illustrate the problem you are describing that are not dispute related?


    The same thing occurs when a player has an existing score, makes a new submission for a higher score, then the new submission is rejected, the existing score disappears.

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  10. Snowflake's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by sdwyer138



    The same thing occurs when a player has an existing score, makes a new submission for a higher score, then the new submission is rejected, the existing score disappears.


    echoing sean but perhaps from a different angle. You seem, jace, to ask for additional examles, but i'm not sure what purpose that serves if you dont agree with the point of those examples.

    can you elaborate why you dont see this as a problem? I see basicaly two problems from this
    1. when a bad score is surpassed it cant be disputed. the main downside of this is people dont get their cred back. you know well how sensitive people are about this. some complaints are valid some are just sore looser talk but at the end of the day both are negative feelings towards TG.
    2. the main point brought up. when a bad score is removed the real score doesnt replace it. frankly i'm not following why you dont follow that this is a problem. Do you believe if someone has a good score, then a higher bad score, that TG is better off having no score? it would seem to me tg is better of having the highest confirmed score

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  11. datagod's Avatar

    Zoomers of the Galaxies sounds very interesting. The world has changed so much since the last State of the Galaxies. I look forward to the next one. It really builds helps to build community spirit.

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  12. datagod's Avatar

    I would really like to see expanded likes/reactions.

    Smile - Laugh - Angry Face - Cry - Confused - Agree - Disagree


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  13. stella_blue's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall

    I understand the concept above, however I am not convinced that historical submissions should act as an ongoing automatic backlog replacement list for a player when the player's current occupying score is disputed successfully.

    Are there other scenarios that you can provide that illustrate the problem you are describing that are not dispute related?

    Hey Jace,

    Why are you not convinced? I don't get it.

    Using a simple example:

    Let's say a player submits a lap time of 57.80 seconds for some racing game. The submission is perfectly valid and is accepted by the community.

    One month later, the player submits an improved lap time of 57.50 seconds for the same game. The submission is accepted and the faster time replaces the previous item on the scoreboard.

    Shortly thereafter, the player's current best time is disputed due to an incorrect setting. The dispute is accepted and the lap time is removed, leaving the player with NOTHING on the scoreboard.

    Why is the player's previous best time also wiped out? Why is it not reinstated on the scoreboard? Why does a single disputed score invalidate ALL previous submissions by the player on that same track? It makes no sense.


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  14. sdwyer138's Avatar

    I’m not going to go searching for it now, but I believe during the roll out of the dispute process, jace even said it was expected behavior that the old score would come back after a disputes score was removed. I might be wrong?

  15. Excelliron's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall


    I am not convinced that historical submissions should act as an ongoing automatic backlog replacement list for a player when the player's current occupying score is disputed successfully.

    Why not? I cant think of any reason NOT to. If a person is found to be a cheater then ALL of their scores will be removed, so its not like we have to worry about a cheated score getting back on the list. The way it is now prevents valid scores from being listed.
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  16. Excelliron's Avatar

    Suggestion: A more active Youtube and Twitch presence, with a focus on drawing in new members. I believe TG has accounts for both platforms yet neither have been active for some time now.

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  17. Snowflake's Avatar

    i think i missed the "historical submission", jace by that do you just mean referee era scores or are you also included tgsap earlier scores as well?

    i mean, considering you havent wiped or split the database and those scores are still up it would make perfect sense to revert back to them, however, at the same time, anything that gets rid of those old scores i'm on board with so i wont argue that point too strong however for TGSAP earlier scores you have earlier scores approved by the community with proof to back it up.

  18. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    1. I think splitting the referee era world record high scores and times from TGSAP high scores and times would be great.

    1a. It would give Twin Galaxies scoreboard database archives a new appealing look both for Twin Galaxies current and new Twin Galaxies members and to the public and media and some sponsors.

    2. It would make it easier to dispute certain Referee or TGSAP high scores and times by Twin Galaxies members they can SEE and VIEW THEM MORE CLEARLY then DISPUTE these questionable scores and times.

    3. Also, it would give Twin Galaxies a great new look to see the differences in these 2 eras by separating TGSAP from the Referee high score and times.

    4. Where current and potential new Twin Galaxies members and onlookers from the internet can check the differences from the golden age referee era of adjudicating 1 person versus the TGSAP era where any Twin Galaxies members can adjudicate, vote and watch the actual complete video game recording to verify that the score/time were done.

    5. There would be fewer disputes and without a doubt that world record or score or time was achieved without using cheats, glitches, leeching etc.



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  19. Excelliron's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    i think i missed the "historical submission", jace by that do you just mean referee era scores or are you also included tgsap earlier scores as well?

    i mean, considering you havent wiped or split the database and those scores are still up it would make perfect sense to revert back to them, however, at the same time, anything that gets rid of those old scores i'm on board with so i wont argue that point too strong however for TGSAP earlier scores you have earlier scores approved by the community with proof to back it up.

    He was replying about how a users backlog of submissions doesnt automatically get put on the scoreboard when their top score is disputed and removed. By 'historical scores' I just took it to mean the users previous scores for a particular game that theyve submitted to multiple times, prior to the current one listed on the leaderboard.


    *Edit: I understand what you mean now. I wasnt really looking at it with any distinction between new scores and old. Maybe you're right.
    Updated 05-28-2022 at 11:02 AM by Excelliron
  20. datagod's Avatar

    I enjoy sharing content (my own and other's) with the TG community. Links to youtube videos, short articles about new consoles and handhelds, select photographs from my travels in the CAG world.

    I wish there were more formatting options when creating an article. The 5 photo limit gets frustrating. right/left/center justification of photos doesn't seem to work. Neither does word wrapping around photos.

    I don't expect this to be a priority of course, but it would be nice if there was an open source article management software that could be dropped into the existing code base.

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