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11-18-2021 at 06:10 PM
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Does any Twin Galaxies members or staff or Jace Hall know what happened to Dave Hawksett ?

Does any Twin Galaxies members or staff or Jace Hall know what happened to Dave Hawksett ?

Is he in good health.

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  1. Blackflag82's Avatar

    According to his linkedin he and TG parted ways in October 2019 - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/hawksett?trk=author_mini-profile_title

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  2. timmell's Avatar

    He is doing the same amount for TG as he did in 2018.

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  3. Blackflag82's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by timmell

    He is doing the same amount for TG as he did in 2018.

    Arguably, he's doing more since he's not actively mucking things up like in 2018

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  4. thegamer1185's Avatar

    Wasn't there some behind the scenes activity with the Billy dispute?

  5. Snowflake's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by thegamer1185

    Wasn't there some behind the scenes activity with the Billy dispute?

    There likely was as that was his job at the time but I suspect you’re thinking of the triforce dispute where it came out they were emailing in private instead of following the rule all evidence has to be public

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  6. TWIN GALAXIES's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    ...I suspect you’re thinking of the triforce dispute where it came out they were emailing in private instead of following the rule all evidence has to be public

    This statement may be unintentionally providing misleading or confused information therefore clarification is provided below:

    Twin Galaxies Admin may speak with any of its members at any time for any reason in relation to activity within the website, database and/or its various policies. Admin conducting its administrative duties across any relevant matter is not unusual or inappropriate and will always be ongoing.

    The quoted statement above seems to possibly misconstrue or cross-pollenate TG administrative function with TG dispute evidentiary guidelines and decision procedure.

    The rule regarding dispute decisions is that only evidence that is contained within the public dispute thread can be considered in regard to a dispute decision.

    TG Admin speaking privately to anyone on any subject is irrelevant to that dispute procedure rule, as any private discourse TG may have can not and will not be considered as evidence in a dispute case decision.

    If private information is somehow provided in relation to a dispute claim, and there is a desire for that information to be considered in a dispute decision, that information would be required to be placed into the public dispute thread for it to be considered in relation to that dispute decision.

    Hopefully that provides some clarity on the matter.


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  7. Barthax's Avatar

    He took on a big burden which requires resolution by navigating masses of (often obnoxious) egos, try to corale them into a coherent singular pathway as well as juggle the multitude of poor historical pathways and dead ends. It is unkind to suggest he did nothing or less. That sort of statement just reflects the commentator. TG doesn't work well with a single mind at the centre.

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  8. swaggers's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES

    This statement may be unintentionally providing misleading or confused information therefore clarification is provided below:

    Hawksett was removed from the dispute because of the interaction so I don't see how Snowflake's statement is misleading.

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  9. Almighty Dreadlock's Avatar

    Mr Hawksett was an OK guy. He got caught with his pants down, so did the honourable thing: pulled them back up, and walked away.

  10. kernzyp's Avatar

    I thought he was cool.
    We had a half hour chat on the phone, back then. Turns out he lived around the corner from where I got the Bomb Jack record at that time.

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  11. Snowflake's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax

    He took on a big burden which requires resolution by navigating masses of (often obnoxious) egos, try to corale them into a coherent singular pathway as well as juggle the multitude of poor historical pathways and dead ends. It is unkind to suggest he did nothing or less. That sort of statement just reflects the commentator. TG doesn't work well with a single mind at the centre.


    thats interesting, i was gonna argue with the earlier points, but then fought the urge not just cause of the offensive nature but more importantly it would go nowhere. your last sentence really gave me pause for thought. of course i agree with it, but in this context reminding me of what i knew elsewhere gives me new perspective. It sounds like you're saying its not so much he failed, as his position and task itself were impossibly doomed to failure whoever had it. I obviously very strongly agree, too much control, regardless of who has it is a big problem. a worthwhile perspective

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  12. Snowflake's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by swaggers


    Hawksett was removed from the dispute because of the interaction so I don't see how Snowflake's statement is misleading.


    thanks for the support ;) i appreciate tg's words though "misleading" and "unintentional". its what i get for trying to give a brief description. every once in a while i take to heart complaints about my very long pedantic answers and try to change, and every time, the moment i do, i get wacked for it. People can read through the triforce dispute, searching specifically for jace, tg, and dave comments to get the full context in excrutiating detail if they like.

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  13. nads's Avatar

    Wasn’t there another 2 guys that were hired at the same time? I’m sure one was updating the Atari 2600 rules.

    Also has anyone seen a post from Franny lately?

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  14. swaggers's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by nads

    Wasn’t there another 2 guys that were hired at the same time? I’m sure one was updating the Atari 2600 rules.

    Also has anyone seen a post from Franny lately?


    There was also another lady hired, who made 1 post and then was never heard from again........

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  15. Snowflake's Avatar

    it would appear this is turning into a hunt for tg (perhaps former) employees. The only proper thing to do is make a poll about each individual, still here or gone. we can all bet credibility -- which has no real word cash value and therefore violates no gambling laws -- on it.

  16. kernzyp's Avatar

    That's a point. Franny was normally my whip, but now it's an anonymous coward.
    I miss those days :)

  17. thegamer1185's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    it would appear this is turning into a hunt for tg (perhaps former) employees. The only proper thing to do is make a poll about each individual, still here or gone. we can all bet credibility -- which has no real word cash value and therefore violates no gambling laws -- on it.

    If crytocurrency came out of nowhere like a fart and is worth $65K, then we can make TG credibility worth a dollar amount as well. I say $1M per cred point. Some of you are loaded.

  18. Maris Memes's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES


    This statement may be unintentionally providing misleading or confused information therefore clarification is provided below:

    Twin Galaxies Admin may speak with any of its members at any time for any reason in relation to activity within the website, database and/or its various policies. Admin conducting its administrative duties across any relevant matter is not unusual or inappropriate and will always be ongoing.

    The quoted statement above seems to possibly misconstrue or cross-pollenate TG administrative function with TG dispute evidentiary guidelines and decision procedure.

    The rule regarding dispute decisions is that only evidence that is contained within the public dispute thread can be considered in regard to a dispute decision.

    TG Admin speaking privately to anyone on any subject is irrelevant to that dispute procedure rule, as any private discourse TG may have can not and will not be considered as evidence in a dispute case decision.

    If private information is somehow provided in relation to a dispute claim, and there is a desire for that information to be considered in a dispute decision, that information would be required to be placed into the public dispute thread for it to be considered in relation to that dispute decision.

    Hopefully that provides some clarity on the matter.



    But the record was proven by TG staff at the time and experts to be impossible until such admin made the mistake of falling whim to social media foolery of "Once you remove my record, I'll turn around and prove I can." Yet they did not and it was just accepted even though professionals of the score mentioned here was an issue. Someone I know also spoke to Dave Hawksett prior and during this exchange and his statement was "I'm not sure what to do as I'm not supposed to have involvement." yet Jace Hall pulled what we assumed was a portion or whole email exchange and he has been gone since?

    That is actually sus.

  19. TWIN GALAXIES's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Maris Memes



    But the record was proven by TG staff at the time and experts to be impossible until such admin made the mistake of falling whim to social media foolery of "Once you remove my record, I'll turn around and prove I can." Yet they did not and it was just accepted even though professionals of the score mentioned here was an issue. Someone I know also spoke to Dave Hawksett prior and during this exchange and his statement was "I'm not sure what to do as I'm not supposed to have involvement." yet Jace Hall pulled what we assumed was a portion or whole email exchange and he has been gone since?

    That is actually sus.

    The above is not accurate.

    While there was certainly speculation contained in that score's dispute claim thread, the score performance was not definitively and objectively proven by anyone to be impossible - and of course since that dispute claim, another player has not only accomplished that very record, they have apparently accomplished it even more quickly (if the hearsay regarding the previously disputed score's completion time is to be believed.)

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/212166

    Additionally - Dave Hawksett's departure had nothing to do with disputes, Twin Galaxies, or any factor relating to it - and it did not take place anytime near the particular dispute you are referencing in any regard.

  20. Snowflake's Avatar

    bunch of transitions. kyle confused billy's dispute with triforce dispute. Maris is confusing triforce dispute with rodrigos. Rodrigo's zelda -- certainly in many's belief was proven false on the technicalities -- and it was he who said he would prove his score after being banned. Triforce's thing was hed answer in private but hes above answering publicly to the lesser beings, and yes he outright said at one points hes "superior" to us. he didnt want to be banned, that was rodrigo

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