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02-09-2019 at 09:29 AM
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Revised Rules For Arcade Racing Game Fast and Furious Super Cars / Super Cars JJT #1

ARCADE FAST AND FURIOUS SUPER CARS
TRACK RULES for SOLO RACE:
1 ) You Must VIDEO TAPE RECORD GAME SETTINGS From the GAME SCREEN MENU.
2 ) YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SHOW THE HARDWARE.
a. DIFFICULTY 4 or 5
b. Start Time: 80 Seconds
c. Check Point Bonus: 30 Seconds
d. 1 Turbo Boost to START & 3 in Reserve
e. Any Car Can Be Used & Fully Loaded

3 ) NO CHEATS or GLITCHES List Below:

a. No Wall Riding
b. No Getting Stuck in Mid Air or in Anything
c. No Cheat Glitch Flips
Note: NORMAL FLIPS are OK

d. NO CREATED TURBO BOOST Off Anything After Using your 3 Reserve Turbo Boost
e. NO Illegal Short Cuts by Clipping or Skipping Sections of the Race Track.
Note : Regular Short Cuts are Ok

4 ) Only Dedicated Arcade Fast and Furious Super Cars & Super Cars Cabinets will Be Accepted

Conversion Kits will not Be Accepted
Special Note: Dedicated Fast and Furious Super Cars/Super Cars Rules Will Apply to Conversion Kit Fast and Furious Super Cars/Super Cars.

5 ) Players Must Video Tape the Arcade Game Fast and Furious Super Cars/Super Cars Game Cabinet & Cockpit.

Special Note: For Players that Own Dedicated Arcade Fast and Furious Super Cars/ Super Cars Game Cabinet Must show the Hardware.



ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

Note: Twin Galaxy Members The EXPLANATIONS and NOTES about the Glitches are Here Below & Will Be Separated from the RULES

Note: Twin Galaxy Staff Can You Put Explanations & Notes in ADDITIONAL INFORMATION &
SEPARATE them from Main Rules.

EXPLANATIONS and NOTES:

1 ) A. DIFFICULTY 4 or 5 Must Video Recorded from the Game Screen Menu

1 ) B. Start Time: 80 Seconds Game: Can Be Seen at the Start of the Race &
1 ) C. Check Point Bonus: 30 Seconds Check Points Can be Seen During the Race.

3 ) NO Cheat Glitch: Getting Stuck in Anything: in Mid Air,Like Bridges, Planes,Trains,Trees, Poles, Buildings,Helicopter,Mountains,Hills, Tracks etc.

Reason it is not Not Possible to Get More 10 Seconds in 1 Jump. This Effects the Challenges: 1. Biggest Jump & 2. Most Air Time.

3 ) NO Cheat Glitch Flips: a Player Can Get 40 to 80 Flips in a Continuous Loop in Mid Air, which is Not Part of the Games Programming & Not Possible in Normal Game Play

3 ) NO Cheat Glitch CREATED TURBO BOOST Off Anything.
After All 3 Reserve Turbo Boost are Used Up,
a Player Can CREATE TURBO BOOST OFF Buildings,Corners,Bridges,Trains,Roads,Rail's or Side of Road. The Effect is a Created Turbo Boost or a Sling Shot Effect.

This is Not Allowed & it Exceeds the Limit that the Game Allows & is Not Part of the Original Game Programming.

3 ) NO Cheat Glitch Short Cuts/ NO Clipping/Skipping of Sections of the Race Track. Which is Not Part of Game Programming.: A Player Can Get Unrealistic Race Times Under 1 Minute.

A Player Can Get 30 to a 1 Minute Off their Final Race Times. Like Super Mario Brothers and Zelda Video Games Etc.

Note: Normal Short Cuts are Ok. Which are Part of the Game.

4 ) Twin Galaxy Member Can Create & Sponsor a Track for Conversion Kit for Fast and Furious Super Cars/Super Cars

4 ) Here are the Arcade Game Cabinets that can be Converted: Cruis’n USA, Cruis’n World,Cruis’n Exotica,Off Road Challenge,California Speed,Off Road Challenge,San Francisco Rush,Rush the Rock,Rush 2049,Cart Fury Etc

Added Note: All CHEAT GLITCHES Will be Disqualified for any of the Infractions:
NO Wall Riding

NO Getting Stuck in Anything

NO Cheat Glitch Flips

Note: Normal Game Flips are Ok not a Continous Loop of Flips in Mid- Air or On or In Something.

NO CREATED TURBO BOOST Off Anything. You are only Allowed to Use 3 Reserved Turbo Boosters that FFSC/SC Game Allows.

NO Cheat Glitch Short Cuts/No Clipping/No Skipping on any Section of the Race Track.

Note: Normal Short Cuts are Ok



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  1. Blackflag82's Avatar

    SMH.

    Juan, just copy and paste Sean's rules exactly as he posted them, and if you insist on this Mojave rule than add to the bottom.

    "Settings must be shown, or a full run of the Mojave course must be completed on the video with the submtted run."

    All of that will cover the ruleset you're going for with around 10 lines of rules instead of the short story you've written. Additionally it will be straightforward and free of all the grammatical errors. Your commentary on each section is unnecessary and the rule set is not the appropriate place to put it.

  2. Blackflag82's Avatar

    Also, I'm going to point it out again despite the fact that it will likely fall on deaf ears:


    Requiring the game be in a certain difficulty which without game settings being shown can be only be determined by a run which requires a somewhat arbitrary determination or trusting one expert's word insures that the only way the latter will pass will be from blind voting.


    Having found video of a run on difficulty 6 and one in difficulty 5 and watched both, I fail to see differences which would allow me (as a non-expert) to determine definitively which is which. And Juan, given the amount of lies you've been caught in over the last week, I can't "take your word as an expert" that what is being viewed is correct.


    The better solution would be to simply scrap this difficulty requirement so the showing of settings and the arbitrary judgement of difficulty from a run can both be scrapped, and the run can be judged instead on easily identified rule infractions order lack there of.

    Updated 02-09-2019 at 10:13 AM by Blackflag82
  3. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    You Patrick Stanley Cannot Beat Me JJT Johnnylightning in a Straight Forward Racing Against me or my Race Times on the Arcade Race Game Fast and Furious Super Cars. No One has Yet .

    You have to have Help.


    #1 On the Race Track MOJAVE , the Vehicles do Not Come at You on Difficulty 5 & Below & there are Fewer Vehicles as Well as the Track Being Dark.


    As the Difficulty goes Up from 6 to 10 the Vehicle Coming at you are


    No. The Rule stays


    What Lies? Explain, List them


    The Only Reason that did not Make Mandatory to Video Record the Game Settings is Because the The Arcade Game Places that Have Been are Not Allowing to Video Record the Game Settings Anymore.


    So , I Put in the a Remedy for those Players that may Encounter the same Problem as I did.

    I Created a Remedy That All Players Record the Completed Race Track MOJAVE.


    Quote Originally Posted by Blackflag82

    Also, I'm going to point it out again despite the fact that it will likely fall on deaf ears:

    Requiring the game be in a certain difficulty which without game settings being shown can be only be determined by a run which requires a somewhat arbitrary determination or trusting one expert's word insures that the only way the latter will pass will be from blind voting.

    Having found video of a run on difficulty 6 and one in difficulty 5 and watched both, I fail to see differences which would allow me (as a non-expert) to determine definitively which is which. And Juan, given the amount of lies you've been caught in over the last week, I can't "take your word as an expert" that what is being viewed is correct.

    The better solution would be to simply scrap this difficulty requirement so the showing of settings and the arbitrary judgement of difficulty from a run can both be scrapped, and the run can be judged something on easily identified rule infractions or lack there of.

    Updated 02-09-2019 at 11:10 AM by JJT_Defender
  4. Blackflag82's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

    You Cannot Beat Me JJT Johnnylightning in aStraight Forward Racing Against me or my Race Times. You have to have Help.

    Cars do Not Come at You on Difficulty 5 & Below a Fact on the Race Track MOJAVE.


    No. The Rule stays


    What Lies? Explain, List them


    I never said I could Juan, I'm talking about how crappy your rules are, not your racing ability.

    Lies in the last week or so: Defender/Ned, claim that you never accepted a dipswitch-less run (which is true) but in proving the truth you showed yet again that you claimed the run as accepted without voting which seems to be a pattern for you and is its own form of lie, your ability as an adjudicator. I'm sure there are some others but that's enough for now.
    As I said, if your insistent on the rule staying then add the above piece that I write for you with Sean's rules and stop trying to write your own. You might be the best at racing, but you're Rudy level at rule writing
  5. Blackflag82's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender


    So , I Put in the a Remedy for those Players that may Encounter the same Problem as I did.

    I Created a Remedy That All Players Record the Completed Race Track MOJAVE.




    Not a remedy. as the remedy would be to do away with the difficulty setting.

  6. Blackflag82's Avatar

    Also you did such a good job with a reasonable length post, why do you keep butchering it by making it longer with repeated edits? Just make a new post.

  7. Snowflake's Avatar

    i'm gonna step away from my recent spat of heckling juan and try to help since track rules do matter.

    I myself often struggle with do I
    (1) give a short version, that people can twist and misinterpert
    (2)give a long thorough version, that makes very clear whats meant, but since noone reads it all, it gets twisted and misinterperted

    The comprose i like is two sections. Juan, if you really want to explain everything then i suggest you add a "notes" section at the bottom of the rules. go on and on explaining there if you like, but make the rules themselves very streamlined and to the point. the rules themselves dont need to explain why they exist, the rules should just be, well, the rules. explanation do help, and a "notes" section has its place since we all sometimes say things we dont mean and the notes section can be studied later if theres every confusion over whats mean. that explanation though mixed in among the rules actually makes thing more confusing, not less

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    The Only Reason I did not Make it Mandatory to Video Record the Game Settings. Because the The Arcade Game Places that Have Been are Not Allowing to Video Record the Game Settings Anymore. Because of their Rule Polices.

    So , I put in the Remedy for those Players that may Encounter the same Problem as I did.

    I Created the Remedy That Players Can Record a Completed Race of the Track MOJAVE . To Make it Easier.


    A Explanation on why the Mojave Track

    #1 On the Race Track MOJAVE , the Vehicles do Not Come at You on Difficulty 5 & Below & there are Fewer Vehicles as Well as the Track Being Less Dark.


    On Difficulty 6 to 10 the Vehicles Coming at you are are more Aggressive, Bump you more,the vehicles Cross the Road in front of you, there are More Vehicles, and the Track is Darker. And on the Fast and Furious Super Cars Version 1.16 Has Yellow Car Ramp Trailers on the Harder Difficulties but Not on the Super Cars Version 2.14 does not have Yellow Car Ramp Trailers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Blackflag82



    Not a remedy. as the remedy would be to do away with the difficulty setting.

  9. Blackflag82's Avatar

    Ok Juan, like Im now saying for the third time, it's your track, do what you want.

    Can you stop saying the same thing over and over and actually start to edit your ruleset? Between the rules Sean made, the addition I added about the Mojave track rule in my first post, and what Snowflake just wrote about splitting up rules and comments, it would seem like you have enough to condense and rework further. Could please make your next post a further editted version of the rules based on the suggestions above so the community can help you make rules that will actually be usuable?

  10. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    Rules Condensed that has No Explanation No Story

    Not to Confuse the Audience

    with Notes Section: Explaining

    2 Separate Parts


    Thank You William and Congratulations on your Arcade Marathon Tapper World Record


    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    i'm gonna step away from my recent spat of heckling juan and try to help since track rules do matter.

    I myself often struggle with do I
    (1) give a short version, that people can twist and misinterpert
    (2)give a long thorough version, that makes very clear whats meant, but since noone reads it all, it gets twisted and misinterperted

    The comprose i like is two sections. Juan, if you really want to explain everything then i suggest you add a "notes" section at the bottom of the rules. go on and on explaining there if you like, but make the rules themselves very streamlined and to the point. the rules themselves dont need to explain why they exist, the rules should just be, well, the rules. explanation do help, and a "notes" section has its place since we all sometimes say things we dont mean and the notes section can be studied later if theres every confusion over whats mean. that explanation though mixed in among the rules actually makes thing more confusing, not less

  11. RaGe's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

    You Patrick Stanley Cannot Beat Me JJT Johnnylightning in a Straight Forward Racing Against me or my Race Times on the Arcade Race Game Fast and Furious Super Cars.

    Lmaooooooooooooooooo.







    carry on.

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  12. sdwyer138's Avatar

    Posting this again, so nobody has to go back to the other thread:

    ________________________________


    1) Settings must be shown as follows:

    -Start time: 80 seconds

    -Check point bonus: 30 seconds

    -Game difficulty: 4 or 5

    2) Original cabinet and PCB only, no conversion cabs/boards allowed

    3) Player may freely boost at the start of the race, and may have up to 3 nitros in reserve

    4) Player may freely select car

    5) Wall riding is prohibited

    6) Usage of any glitches is prohibited

    ________________________________

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  13. sdwyer138's Avatar

    JJT, this sums up what you want to convey.

    Let's talk about the game difficulty part:

    "-Game difficulty: 4 or 5"

    Think about how this looks in an adjudication package. The submitter has a choice here. They can either show the difficulty setting from service mode or they can race on Mojave first. Either way it satisfies the requirements of this rule, with out having the rule itself being overly wordy. If the submitter does neither, then their submission is disqualified.





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    Rocket League Rules are the Longest. The Movie Gone with Wind

    ULES

    TRACK RULES

    This record is for the most goals scored in one match in a game of Rocket League by an individual.

    This record is to be attempted by an individual.

    This record is measured by the number of goals scored against the computer-controlled opponent (AI bot) after the five minute match is finished.


    The players must start a 1v1 match against a bot.

    The bots must be set to the 'rookie' difficulty setting.

    The players may use any type of car or customization they choose to.

    The final count is the number of goals scored against the AI-controlled team.

    The number of goals conceded is irrelevant.

    The game must be played in its original current version. The use of mods, editors and similar is not allowed.

    ADDITIONAL INFO

    Video evidence of the entire attempt MUST be provided. Screen capture may be submitted as extra evidence, but camera footage that includes both the player and the player’s screen in full view must be submitted. This footage can begin facing the player and then pan away from the player towards the screen (so that only the screen is in view for the actual gameplay). If recorded this way the footage must be uncut and unedited.


    Video evidence requirements:

    • Video footage of the whole attempt.

    • Player must show the game disk/card/cartridge, followed by them inserting the game into the console (For PC, player must show the gaming client they are using to load the game and load it from there e.g. Steam, Origin).

    • The player must show the controller they intend to use for the attempt, pressing all the buttons to show it is unmodified.

    • The player must show the current software version of their console or PC, followed by the game's current software version (For PC players, the game's software version must be up to date, the PC’s operating system does not).

    • The player must demonstrate that all game settings for the attempt are as requested.

    • The player must record the whole of the attempt, with a clock or timer clearly visible in shot.


    The use of timers in direct-capture footage (e.g. LiveSplit) is permitted as long as there is also full video of the attempt with the player visibly playing the game. The two videos must clearly sync up and not be from two separate attempts. This can be achieved by performing an obvious action on screen and listing the time stamp of the action in the evidence description for both the in-camera and direct-capture footage.


    Video evidence must be uploaded directly to Twin Galaxies for consideration. Third party hosted video performances will not be considered. (example: YouTube, Vimeo, etc.)


    This record may only be attempted on a PC, an unmodified version of a commercially available video games console or an unmodified arcade cabinet/board. Alterations to hardware and/or software outside of those released or endorsed by the manufacturer will result in disqualification.


    Video games records may only be attempted on platforms or systems for which the game in question has been commercially released with the support of the platform manufacturer.


    Software or hardware emulators are not permissible except where these are endorsed by both the game’s developers and the platform holders where applicable.


    Where the game used for the attempt carries an age rating in Europe or the United States, all participants must be of the minimum age required to buy that game according to its PEGI or ESRB rating, whichever is higher.

  15. Snowflake's Avatar

    I’ll bite. Which of the rocket league rules do you think should be added to fast and furious

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  16. Blackflag82's Avatar

    I think he is saying they are the longest and his goal is to add longest ruleset to his list of world records, hence the length of his rules and refusal to adopt sean's accurately condensed version

  17. Snowflake's Avatar

    If jjt is absolutely unwilling to Change his rules that’s his right I suggest@admin staff unlock the track if jjt insists this is the final rules he’ll allow. Good luck getting anything excepted on this track. Perhaps unlocking submitting and abstinence will reveal why a rule change is needed

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  18. SincerelyFranny's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

    Rocket League Rules are the Longest. The Movie Gone with Wind

    ULES

    TRACK RULES

    This record is for the most goals scored in one match in a game of Rocket League by an individual.

    This record is to be attempted by an individual.

    This record is measured by the number of goals scored against the computer-controlled opponent (AI bot) after the five minute match is finished.


    The players must start a 1v1 match against a bot.

    The bots must be set to the 'rookie' difficulty setting.

    The players may use any type of car or customization they choose to.

    The final count is the number of goals scored against the AI-controlled team.

    The number of goals conceded is irrelevant.

    The game must be played in its original current version. The use of mods, editors and similar is not allowed.

    ADDITIONAL INFO

    Video evidence of the entire attempt MUST be provided. Screen capture may be submitted as extra evidence, but camera footage that includes both the player and the player’s screen in full view must be submitted. This footage can begin facing the player and then pan away from the player towards the screen (so that only the screen is in view for the actual gameplay). If recorded this way the footage must be uncut and unedited.


    Video evidence requirements:

    • Video footage of the whole attempt.

    • Player must show the game disk/card/cartridge, followed by them inserting the game into the console (For PC, player must show the gaming client they are using to load the game and load it from there e.g. Steam, Origin).

    • The player must show the controller they intend to use for the attempt, pressing all the buttons to show it is unmodified.

    • The player must show the current software version of their console or PC, followed by the game's current software version (For PC players, the game's software version must be up to date, the PC’s operating system does not).

    • The player must demonstrate that all game settings for the attempt are as requested.

    • The player must record the whole of the attempt, with a clock or timer clearly visible in shot.


    The use of timers in direct-capture footage (e.g. LiveSplit) is permitted as long as there is also full video of the attempt with the player visibly playing the game. The two videos must clearly sync up and not be from two separate attempts. This can be achieved by performing an obvious action on screen and listing the time stamp of the action in the evidence description for both the in-camera and direct-capture footage.


    Video evidence must be uploaded directly to Twin Galaxies for consideration. Third party hosted video performances will not be considered. (example: YouTube, Vimeo, etc.)


    This record may only be attempted on a PC, an unmodified version of a commercially available video games console or an unmodified arcade cabinet/board. Alterations to hardware and/or software outside of those released or endorsed by the manufacturer will result in disqualification.


    Video games records may only be attempted on platforms or systems for which the game in question has been commercially released with the support of the platform manufacturer.


    Software or hardware emulators are not permissible except where these are endorsed by both the game’s developers and the platform holders where applicable.


    Where the game used for the attempt carries an age rating in Europe or the United States, all participants must be of the minimum age required to buy that game according to its PEGI or ESRB rating, whichever is higher.


    Juan,

    As per our email chain, these Rocket League rules were composed and carefully thought out by Guinness. They were revised MANY time before we allowed them to be posted on our site for competition.

    All I ask of you is to post the "FINAL" rule set you sent me so the community can review it. We are all trying to help. We want you to be able to submit score and have competition. We are all just trying to help you.


    If jjt is absolutely unwilling to Change his rules that’s his right I suggest@admin staff unlock the track if jjt insists this is the final rules he’ll allow. Good luck getting anything excepted on this track. Perhaps unlocking submitting and abstinence will reveal why a rule change is needed

    @JJT_Defender please do not let this be the case. This is not fulfilling for anyone. We only want to see your success.

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