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@Jace Hall create a track called Multitrack,gms that combine MAME,Arcade,Jrok,FPGA, 1,000-in 1.

What I was trying to say was to create 2 tracks, 1 for any Multi arcade emulators games 1,000 in 1 & 1 track that allows players to use either MAME, Arcade, Jrok, FPGA, 1,000-in 1 , for fastest times & scores to set records, etc.

These multiplatform tracks allows players to use any of theses platforms MAME, Arcade, Jrok, FPGA, 1,000-in 1 arcade emulators to set records. They should never be counted as breaking the the original arcade game WR's from the arcade games below or any others.

Unless they are playing on the original arcade game hardware and software,control panel,pcb,dip switch game settings. It should never count as a original WR or score/time, but be put in another track platform as a record in itself.

Here are 2 examples of these types of tracks that allow players to use multiplatforms:

1. Arcade Pole Position Fastest Qualifying Lap

TRACK RULES
Only video of the game play is required. You can use MAME, Arcade, Jrok, FPGA, xx-in 1, as long as it was made for the arcade machine or mame. No dip switches or settings need to be shown. Use any settings you choose. The best settings are 244 mph, and all other settings only affect the actual race or score.

2. Arcade - Galaga - Rank A - Stage 31
Score Track
https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=227359
Rules
3 Lives :
Difficulty Rank A :
Extra Ships: at 20,000 points, 70,000 points and every 70,000 points thereafter.
Settings may be set to harder or extra men at higher point thresholds.
Your game ends once round 31 is complete and your score will be taken once the bonus points have been awarded.
Game can be played on any of the platforms below.
Arcade...........................
Mame.............................
1Class of 81....................
2xx-1................................
3FPG or Multi board not emulated...............
4Fast Fire may be used but won't get you the highest score, same with playing a different rank, rank A is the easiest and will provide the most points.
Please report your score with the corresponding # in the 1's digit for reference. Ex you played xx-1 your score was 90,000 points you would record 90,003


1. Donkey Kong 2. Donkey Kong Junior 3. Pac-Man 4. Ms Pac-Man 5. Galaga 6. Galaxian 7. Defender 8. Stargate 9. Robotron2084 10. Fast and Furious Super Cars 11. Tapper 12. Q*Bert

Their are 137 platform 1 more will not hurt & solve the problem with multi arcade tracks, they can have their world record scores and times put into Twin Galaxies scoreboard Database to.

1. --GWR

2. --Speedruns

3. 1292 APVS (Audiosonic) / VC 4000 (Interton)

4. 3DO (Goldstar & Panasonic Models)

5. Amstrad CPC

6. Android

7. APF-MP1000

8. Apple II
9. Apple IIGS
10. AppleTV

11. Arcade
12. ArcadePC
13. ArcadeSD
14. Arcadia 2001 Emerson

15. Atari 2600 / VCS
16. Atari 400 / 800 / XL / XE
17. Atari 5200
18. Atari 7800
19. Atari Flashback

20. Atari Jaguar
21. Atari Jaguar CD

22. Atari Lynx
23. Atari SC-450
24. Atari ST

25. Bally Astrocade
26. Bandai WonderSwan/WonderSwan Color
27. Cassette Vision (Epoch)

28. ColecoVision / Adam
29. Colecovision Flashback

30 Commodore 64

31. Commodore Amiga
32. Commodore CDTV / CD32
33. Commodore Plus 4 / C16 / C116
34. Commodore VIC-20

35. Contest / Tournament

36. Cybiko

37. digiBlast (Nikko)

38. Fairchild Channel F

39. FM Towns Marty (Fujitsu)

40. Game Boy / Game Boy Color
41. Game Boy Advance

42. Game Wave Family Entertainment System

43. Game.com (Tiger Electronics)

44. Gizmondo

45. GX4000 (Amstrad)

46. Intellivision
47. Intellivision Flashback

48. iOS

49. iQue Player (iQue)

50. JROK

51. Laserdisc-Daphne

52. M.A.M.E.

53. MacIntosh

54. Mattel Aquarius

55. Microvision (Milton Bradley)

56. Milestones

57. MSX

58. Neo Geo Pocket

59. Neo Geo X

60. NES / FAMICOM / DISK
61. NES Classic Edition

62. Nintendo 3DS
63. Nintendo 3DS 3D Classics
64. Nintendo 3DS eShop
65. Nintendo 3DS Virtual Console

66. Nintendo 64
67. Nintendo 64DD

68. Nintendo DS

69. Nintendo DSIWare

70. Nintendo Game & Watch

71. Nintendo Game Cube

72. Nintendo Switch

73. Nintendo Wii
74. Nintendo Wii U
75. Nintendo Wii U eShop
76. Nintendo Wii Virtual Console
77. Nintendo WiiWare

78. Nokia N-Gage (1st Gen)
79. Nokia N-Gage (2nd Gen)

80. Novelty

81. Nuon (VM Labs)

82. Odyssey3 / VideoPac+ G7400 (Magnavox)

83. Odyssey² / Videopac

84. Orange PI

85. Other LCD Games

86. Ouya

87. PC

88. PC Engine

89. PC Engine SuperGrafx (NEC)

90. Philips CD-i

91. Pinball

92. PlayStation

93. PlayStation 2

94. PlayStation 3
95. PlayStation 3 PSN

96. PlayStation 4
97. Playstation 4 PSN

98. PlayStation Portable
100. PlayStation Portable PSN

101. PlayStation Vita
102. Playstation Vita PSN

103. PV-1000 (Casio)

104. Raspberry PI

105. Sega 32X

106. Sega CD

107. Sega Dreamcast

108. Sega Game Gear

109. Sega Genesis / Sega Mega Drive
110. Sega Genesis Mini
111. Sega Master System

112. Sega Mega Drive Ultimate Portable Game Player

113. Sega Pico

114. Sega Saturn

115. Sega SG-1000

116. Sharp X68000

117. SNES / SFC
118. SNES Classic

119. SNK Neo Geo (AES)
120. SNK Neo Geo CD

121. Super A'Can (Funtech)

122. Super Cassette Vision (Epoch)

123. Supervision

124. TI-85

125. TI-99 / 4A

126. Tiger Electronics

127. Touchscreen Entertainment

128. TRS-80 CoCo / CoCo2

129. Turbo CD

130. TurboGrafx - 16 Mini

131. TurboGrafx-16

132. TV Plug and Play

133. Vectrex

134. Virtual Boy

135. Xbox

136. Xbox 360
137. Xbox 360 Live Arcade

138. Xbox ONE

139. Zeebo

140. ZX Spectrum

141. ZX Spectrum Vega

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  1. datagod's Avatar

    Juan, I believe the data stored in the database would allow a comparison across all platforms. To provide this ability would likely take a lot of effort on the programmer's part though.

    The database has been patched for years and is likely not the easiest to work with.

    If only there was some sort of "world record" database guy. Somebody so good at databases he is a "god" of sorts.

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  2. datagod's Avatar

    Now maybe if Jace created a whole new website we could call it Triple Galaxy! Combining all scores into one track. The highest score wins!

  3. Foot0fGod's Avatar

    Yeah, the problem is so much bigger than just creating multitrack. If you submit a score to just your track and not elsewhere, or don't make several completely redundant tracks and link them up.... somewhere.... you're just gonna have dead categories that don't do anything but confuse people.

    It's not that it's a bad idea. It's just a big ask unless you are okay with it being completely worthless.

    Honestly, it would be easier to just make some kind of "track merger" scoreboard on a separate website not claiming to be official, but referencing where it's pulling data from TG (whichever tracks you tell it to) and make merged scoreboards if that's what you're into. But that still requires making tons of redundant tracks. Need to make a Micro 31 track for every console, every arcade port, the Multicade track you want. It's just exhausting. I honestly don't see why "track rules supercede general rules" and putting things in a place where they'll be visible and upon reading the track it'll be clear exactly what it is isn't just as valid of an approach. A little simplistic, yes, but yeah. I don't even want to think about the way this website is assembled and what it'd take to make a huge change.

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  4. Snowflake's Avatar

    these tracks have been around over 2 years. https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/217514-Arcade-Galaga-Rank-A-Stage-31-479-251-Jacob-Upland?p=1083596#post1083596

    lets not confuse questions with arguments. jace has answered many times others of us have regurgitated jaces answer many times.

    but fine if its coming up again nows a good time as any for me to repeat my suggestion. I suggest a miscellanious platform. then if enough tracks of a certain type warrant a new platform it can be made later and all such tracks moved later. this would be a catch all.

    but let me check my crystal ball -- it says jace is gonna say theres no need for this at this time, the current tracks are fine, he'll keep an eye on the situation and will consider making changes in the future if warranted.

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  5. datagod's Avatar

    Imagine how much fun we could have if there was an API that let us query the database directly. I really would like to see scores for a title across all platforms.

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  6. Snowflake's Avatar

    indeed. also consider rereleases. comparing super mario bros from nes, snes super mario allstars remake, wii super mario all stars remake, and any other remake. theres fine reasons to split them as they are now, but fine reasons to merge them as well


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  7. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    These multiplatform MAME, Arcade, Jrok, FPGA, 1,000-in 1 arcade emulators game tracks that allows players to set records, should never be counted as breaking the the original arcade game world records from the arcade games below or any others:

    Unless they are playing on the original arcade game hardware and software,control panel,pcb,dip switch game settings. It would not count as a original WR or score/time, but be put in another track platform as a record in itself.

    1. Donkey Kong2. Donkey Kong Junior3. Pac-Man4. Ms Pac-Man5. Galaga6. Galaxian7. Defender8. Stargate9. Robotron208410. Fast and Furious Super Cars11. Tapper12. Q*Bert

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    Updated 06-10-2020 at 10:04 PM by JJT_Defender
  8. Pearl2hu's Avatar

    what

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  9. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    What I was trying to say was to create 2 tracks ,1 for any Multi arcade emulators games 1,000 in 1 & 1 track that allows players to use either MAME, Arcade, Jrok, FPGA, 1,000-in 1 , for fastest times & scores to set records, etc.

    These multiplatform tracks allows players to use any of theses platform MAME, Arcade, Jrok, FPGA, 1,000-in 1 arcade emulators to set records. They should never be counted as breaking the original arcade game WR's from the arcade games below or any others.

    Unless they are playing on the original arcade game hardware and software,control panel,pcb,dip switch game settings. It should never count as a original WR or score/time, but be put in another track platform as a record in itself.

    Here are 2 examples of these types of tracks that allow players to use multiplatforms:

    1. Arcade Pole Position Fastest Qualifying Lap

    TRACK RULES
    Only video of the game play is required. You can use MAME, Arcade, Jrok, FPGA, xx-in 1, as long as it was made for the arcade machine or mame. No dip switches or settings need to be shown. Use any settings you choose. The best settings are 244 mph, and all other settings only affect the actual race or score.

    2. Arcade - Galaga - Rank A - Stage 31
    Score Track
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=227359
    Rules
    3 Lives :
    Difficulty Rank A :
    Extra Ships: at 20,000 points, 70,000 points and every 70,000 points thereafter.
    Settings may be set to harder or extra men at higher point thresholds.
    Your game ends once round 31 is complete and your score will be taken once the bonus points have been awarded.
    Game can be played on any of the platforms below.
    Arcade...........................
    Mame.............................
    1Class of 81....................
    2xx-1................................
    3FPG or Multi board not emulated...............
    4Fast Fire may be used but won't get you the highest score, same with playing a different rank, rank A is the easiest and will provide the most points.
    Please report your score with the corresponding # in the 1's digit for reference. Ex you played xx-1 your score was 90,000 points you would record 90,003

    Updated 06-11-2020 at 07:40 AM by JJT_Defender
  10. datagod's Avatar

    Juan, just create the track you want and dip into your massive points savings account and fund the tracks. That is the great thing about the track creation process. Anyone can create a track and fund it.

  11. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    1. You forgot William, I am banned from creating arcade video game tracks by Twin Galaxies Mrs. Franny and Jace until further notice. With no date on when the ban will end, 1 year 5 months have passed so far.

    Now I have to get permission from both Twin Galaxies Staff and TG members still it was no. I feel that Twin Galaxies wants me out but wants me to do it on my own voluntarily.

    It is personal with them. No solid reason for the ban in the first place.

    Game rules, please that is a poor excuse fro a ban,how much harm does it do to Twin Galaxies site? Nothing, and to ban me with no end date of termination of the ban in sight.

    When does Twin Galaxies staff want to lift the ban, when they feel like it. This is wrong in every way and disrespects me. with no care at all for me.

    Example This is how I would create the track rules for the modern arcade games is

    1. Solo

    2. Factory default settings Note: 90% of Twin Galaxies game tracks are set this way

    3. Show enough peripherals that it is a arcade game cabinet unless a player or their friend owns it then a player has to show PCB,CPU dip switches if any, game menu Note: Modern arcade games almost all of todays games do not have any game settings to see or set in the first place, their just programs.

    4. No cheats, glitches, clipping of tracks,wall riding,codes along with a explanation of them.

    2A. I cannot add to the new Fast and Furious Super Cars track for racing times only,even though I created the track and rules and yes I had help rom Daniel,

    I have no say on my Fast and Furious Super Cars track that I created.

    But I have to get permission from Daniel Ocampo to do so. The 3 tracks that were created was his choice not mine, Mojave, New England and Central Park. Are you kidding, this is BS Can I please add the other 24 tracks.

    I JJT wanted to set all 27 wr's race track times at the sme time.

    I wanted to do add the last 24 tracks and be done with it altogether, I have more than enough submission points to do so, if needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by datagod

    Juan, just create the track you want and dip into your massive points savings account and fund the tracks. That is the great thing about the track creation process. Anyone can create a track and fund it.

    Updated 06-11-2020 at 09:56 AM by JJT_Defender
  12. Pixe Sukola's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

    I cannot add to the new Fast and Furious Super Cars track for racing times only,even though I created the track and rules and I had help,

    But I have to get permission from Daniel Ocampo to do so. The 3 tracks were Hawaii, New England and Central Park

    I wanted to do add the last 24 tracks and have done with altogether, I have more than enough submission points to do so, if needed.


    What a delusional ingrate you are Juan (this is not name calling, but pure truth), you do NOT have to get permission from me for anything. I'm not TG staff nor do I have any control over bans or anything like that.

    I was helping you create a few tracks that you wanted because no one else wants to help you at this point and you can't create the tracks for the reason that has been explained to you at least 90 times at this point.

    You are banned because you created 200 tracks, then requested a bunch of changes to the rules and you never submitted records to them, as simple as that.


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  13. sdwyer138's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

    But I have to get permission from Daniel Ocampo to do so.


    @Pixe Sukola did you just get promoted to Secret Admin? Congratulations!!

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  14. Pixe Sukola's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by sdwyer138



    @Pixe Sukola did you just get promoted to Secret Admin? Congratulations!!

    Thanks, that is correct and I can also promote or demote anyone I want too.

    You do have permission to make comments by the way, but I would prefer if you asked first via a private message :D

  15. sdwyer138's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Pixe Sukola


    Thanks, that is correct and I can also promote or demote anyone I want too.

    You do have permission to make comments by the way, but I would prefer if you asked first via a private message :D

    please don’t ban me

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  16. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    I do appreciate you helping me Daniel create the new Fast and Furious Super Cars track rules. I intern helped you get many of your video game submissions voted into the Twin Galaxies scoreboard Database by adjudciating them. like I have helpped many new and veteran Twin Galaxies members over the years.

    1. 1 year 5 months is more than long enough When does Twin Galaxies staff want to lift the ban, when they feel like it. This is wrong in every way and disrespects me. with no care at all for me.

    Example This is how I would create the track rules for the modern arcade games is

    1. Solo

    2. Factory default settings Note: 90% of Twin Galaxies game tracks are set this way

    3. Show enough peripherals that it is a arcade game cabinet unless a player or their friend owns it then a player has to show PCB,CPU dip switches if any, game menu Note: Modern arcade games almost all of todays games do not have any game settings to see or set in the first place, their just programs.

    4. No cheats, glitches, clipping of tracks,wall riding,codes along with a explanation of them.

    2. https://www.twingalaxies.com/addtrack.php I cannot create a track that is a fact here below is the answer

    Twingalaxies Message

    JJT_Defender, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

    1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
    2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

    3. You said that I had to first play these 3 race tracks Mojave, New England and Central Park before anymore tracks can be added, what is the difference if the last 24 tracks added now?

    Who had control you Daniel and Twin Galaxies staff Mrs. Franny on me adding the last 24 race tracks. I wanted to set all 27 WR's on the same day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pixe Sukola
    Hi Juan, I don't think rule #7 is necessary. We had a nice set of rules ready a couple of days ago and now you are requesting an unnecesary change.

    The adding of the word "illegal" is not the best idea in my opinion, Illegal means it is unlawful, like a crime and I don't think this is the case. I would add "prohibited" instead.

    With this said, I would ask @SincerelyFranny to create the 3 initial tracks we agreed on so we can move on with this situation. Since you didn't responde to my question of: Which 3 tracks would you like to be created first? I will choose them myself. One easy, one medium and one hard.
    1. Mojave

    2. New England

    3. Central Park


    Later the 3 tracks were created by Mrs Franny with no input from me on putting the last 24 race tracks, for the arcade racing game Fast and Furious Super Cars track I created.

    Totally ignored me. what is the difference by creating the last 24 tracks now, nothing. When the arcades do open again,

    I JJT want to set all 27 race track WR's times on the same day.

    4. You are talking about the arcade game H2Overdrive 185 tracks, I wanted to delete and reduce them to 10 tracks. Here below are the 10 tracks and TG rules for the arcade game H2Overdrive:

    Easy Tracks
    1. Quake Canyon (Lake Powell)
    2. Temple of Flume (Lost Island)
    3. Temple of Flume Extended (Nile Adventure)
    Normal Tracks
    4. Hong Kong Buoy (The Far East)
    5. Frozen Tundra Forward (Arctic Circle)
    6. Wild America (N.Y. Disaster)
    7. Frozen Tundra Backward (Ship Graveyard)
    Hard Tracks
    8. Down Under-drive Forward (Thunder Park)
    9. London Underground (Venice Canals)
    10. Down Under-drive Backward (Greek Isles)

    Twin Galaxy Rules for H2Overdive
    1. Solo,Any boat & full modifications including hidden boats,
    2. 4 turbo boost,1 at the start & 3 in reserve
    3. normal short cuts allowed
    4. No cheats,glitches,simulators,clipping,codes, or altering the games programming, a player will be disqualified.
    5. H2Overdrive conversion kits are allowed but must be in a arcade game cabinet.
    6. Player must show enough cabinet to confirm that the correct peripherals like steering wheel and gear stick are being used.
    7. Showing of any internal components of the machine is not needed unlees the palyer or friend own the game.

    03-19-2020 at 09:53 PM


    Quote Originally Posted by Pixe Sukola

    What a delusional ingrate you are Juan (this is not name calling, but pure truth), you do NOT have to get permission from me for anything. I'm not TG staff nor do I have any control over bans or anything like that.

    I was helping you create a few tracks that you wanted because no one else wants to help you at this point and you can't create the tracks for the reason that has been explained to you at least 90 times at this point.

    You are banned because you created 200 tracks, then requested a bunch of changes to the rules and you never submitted records to them, as simple as that.


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  17. Pixe Sukola's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

    3. You said that I had to first play these 3 race tracks Mojave, New England and Central Park before anymore tracks can be added, what is the difference if the last 24 tracks added now?

    Who had control you Daniel and Twin Galaxies staff Mrs. Franny on me adding the last 24 race tracks. I wanted to set all 27 WR's on the same day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pixe Sukola
    Hi Juan, I don't think rule #7 is necessary. We had a nice set of rules ready a couple of days ago and now you are requesting an unnecesary change.

    The adding of the word "illegal" is not the best idea in my opinion, Illegal means it is unlawful, like a crime and I don't think this is the case. I would add "prohibited" instead.

    With this said, I would ask @SincerelyFranny to create the 3 initial tracks we agreed on so we can move on with this situation. Since you didn't responde to my question of: Which 3 tracks would you like to be created first? I will choose them myself. One easy, one medium and one hard.
    1. Mojave

    2. New England

    3. Central Park


    Later the 3 tracks were created by Mrs Franny with no input from me on putting the last 24 race tracks, for the arcade racing game Fast and Furious Super Cars track I created.

    Totally ignored me. what is the difference by creating the last 24 tracks now, nothing. When the arcades do open again,

    I JJT want to set all 27 race track WR's times on the same day.



    You had been asking for the creation of those 24 tracks several times but nobody cared, in order to help you, I suggested to Franny to create 3 of those tracks to see if you were really commited to submit your scores, and if you submited to those 3, then she or I would create the rest.

    She is part of the TG staff and she can create all the tracks she wants and I'm a member with enough knowledge and submissions points to do it on my part too. The fact that Franny listened to a fair sugestion doesn't mean that I set the rules here. I have no say at all when it comes to bans.

    You have asked several times: Why not create the 24 tracks at once? I'll tell you why, because it takes time to create every single track and I have better things to do than creating a bunch of tracks that you are not going to submit to soon and I suppose Franny does too.

    With respect to your ban, I think you want to be able to create tracks to get the 1st place in the Track Creation Leaderboard and to me that is a terrible motivation, because it will most likely lead you to create large quantities of poorly ruled tracks that you don't plan on submitting scores to.

    So my SUGGESTION is that TG lifts your ban but you can only create tracks for games that you are going to play or if somebody else like a new users ASKS you to create one. If you create tracks and you dont submit to them in the next 6 months, the track gets deleted and you get banned again.

    And here I go again trying to help you, you say you want to set all 27 record on the same day why I have no idea in hell why that has to be that way, but the very same day that you send me a message saying "I have all 27 records", I will create all the tracks you are asking for.

    Now get the records or shut up about it!

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  18. datagod's Avatar

    Seriously @JJT_Defender is there any way I can help you with creating your own tracks? If you write down exactly the way you want it, I'll open a track for you. I don't have enough TG dollars to fund it though. Maybe you could do that?

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  19. Foot0fGod's Avatar

    Wellll this is clearly off the rails. Again. I'd like to pull one thing out of the air that I feel JJT's gripe has tucked in it, and rant about it. I think arcade machines and classic scores are important. But I'm not such a fan of when that ventures into "arcade snobbery." One of the problems has always been that getting access to an arcade machine to even play on is just crazy difficult. My local arcade doesn't count, couldn't put up a Galaga score on it. Others are on the wrong settings, and cannot be changed, as most of the managers just really don't care, and aren't even enticed by the idea of you making them the owners of a World Record machine.

    Here's the thing, and this expands even beyond tracks that would go in "multicade" to "anything that has several nearly or fully identical ports." The scores need to show where they come from, for sure. But the decision of what scores are "best" or "most legitimate" need to STOP having the heavy hand of the arcade purists put on it. Most people that can put up legendary scores on another port can ALSO put them up on arcade, and vice versa, and availability (which often comes down to luck or money) is the only reason they gravitate towards one over the other, with few exceptions.

    If there were to be a third party, merged scoreboard, let the community decide what's a "real" record and what's not. If there's some small, but fair advantage to one port over another (no different than a well-maintained arcade machine vs one that has sticky button, crap joysticks, but is otherwise sound), people can gravitate towards that. And if there's *no* advantage, what the hell's the point of distinction? A relic to the past that's not accessible to most people? OR not accessible in a way they might actually be able to compete?

    But when you segregate the scores, don't have a way to show all of them together and say "these are mostly similar and can be considered competitive," and reinforce an arcade purist mindset, you're really stunting the ability of the project to move foward into the future. There are so many "score battles" that completely leave out legitimate contemporary MAME performances because, well, why? Because MAME *is* looked down upon compared to "real arcade games." In fifty more years, machines are gonna break, the remainders might be expensive collectors, businesses might realize they can just buy cheap emulators and the standard money-paying customer won't care. People are gonna buy or build emulated things like MAMEs or Arcade1Ups. The way I see it, you can either die with it OR have a system that fully shows everyone everything, allows them to compare it and decide what makes sense together.

    To be clear, that's not everyone. What we have now is an honest effort to catalog things, and not everyone is of that mindset. But it's definitely an issue. Vintage equipment isn't "better" in the sense of score validity or how it should be treated for the magnitude of the accomplishment. THAT'S the thing we need to stop putting in people's minds and that accidentally slips out in conversations like this where "oh noes, a MAME score is better than an arcade score and even though it explicitly states it, we just can't have it in the Arcade section until we figure something else out!" Nobody cares but us. Not many people even grasp the nature of the conversation but us.

    I'm never gonna spend $800 on a Galaga machine, even if I can. I might be able to set the record on Jordan's machine now that covid stuff is more lax, which I'm more than happy to do. (btw, that's my only reasonable way to even put up an Arcade score).


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  20. Pixe Sukola's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by sdwyer138


    please don’t ban me

    I don't have to but I will do it anyway. You are now banned for 19 seconds. You can't comment, like, submit, dispute, adjudicate or post anything on your wall. After the ban is lifted you will be promoted to secret admin and programmer for 6.2 seconds.

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