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02-09-2021 at 08:44 AM
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Joe Jackmovich 256 sub will fall under old TG credibility 2015 rule before the 5% rule was activated

All of Joe Jackmovich 256 submissions videos that were put in private would fall under the Twin Galaxies Credibility point loss rule in 2015 3 to 5 loss each

before the 5% credibility point penalty was activated.

Joe Jackmovich video game submissions were voted yes accepted into Twin Galaxies Scoreboard Database archives in 2015

I have already been penalized 36 times already from Joe Jackmovich video game submissions

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  1. sdwyer138's Avatar

    you still have more CR than almost everybody else. you probably shouldnt worry that much.

  2. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    The old 2015 Twin Galaxies rule for Credibility point loss was 3 to 5 credibility points loss versus 5% after all of Joe Jackmovich video game submissions were voted yes accepted by Twin Galaxies members and put into Twin Galaxies Scoreboard Database archives in 2015

    Before the 5% credibility point loss rule was activated.

    The best solution for @Jace Hall or @admin staff to do is exempt everybody from 256 of Joe Jackmovich video game submissions that were voted yes accepted by Twin Galaxies members with a game video at the time they voted. Then years later was put into private by Joe Jackmovich with no Fault of Twin Galaxies members, they had no control of that happening in the first place.

    If it is decided not to exempt Twin Galaxies members from 256 or more of Joe Jackmovich video game submissions,

    Then Twin Galaxies must penalized under old credibility point loss Rule,

    before 5% credibility loss was activated.

    Because all 256 of Joe Jackmovich video game submissions were voted yes accepted by Twin Galaxies members into Twin Galaxies Scoreboard Database archives and had game videos before 5% credibility loss was activated.

    Quote Originally Posted by sdwyer138

    you still have more CR than almost everybody else. you probably shouldnt worry that much.

    Updated 02-09-2021 at 09:12 AM by JJT_Defender
  3. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    Their were Twin Galaxies members who said they would challenge me on Fast and Furious Super Cars none have answered. The records are easy to break and there at Main Event Dave & Buster's and other places.

    Over 1 year has passed I will lower them and up the 6 challenges

    Updated 02-09-2021 at 10:04 AM by JJT_Defender
  4. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    My point is the 2014-15 Twin Galaxies rule for Credibility point loss 3 to 5 for each should apply to all 256 of Joe Jackmovich submissions that were a voted yes by Twin Galaxies members with a video game recording

    Before the 5% credibility point loss rule was activated. @Jace Hall @admin staff

  5. Blackflag82's Avatar

    dude, if you're going to delete people's posts and then respond, then your responses don;t make any sense.

    In all seriousness though, if you're going to keep posting this nonsense and whining to the public wall, you should have the decency to stop deleting posts...

  6. sdwyer138's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

    Their were Twin Galaxies members who said they would challenge me on Fast and Furious Super Cars none have answered. The records are easy to break and there at Main Event Dave & Buster's and other places.

    Over 1 year has passed I will lower them and up the 6 challenges


    What does this have to do with Joe's disputes? Did he challenge you to Fast and Furious Super Cars?

  7. Blackflag82's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by sdwyer138



    What does this have to do with Joe's disputes? Did he challenge you to Fast and Furious Super Cars?

    I made the following comment "I wonder how many Fast and Furious records you could have recorded with all the time you've spent whining about Joe Jack"

    of course JJT deleted it, but then responded.

    But in reality, isn't everything about super cars?

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  8. Snowflake's Avatar

    jjt, your new demand interestingly enough is how it worked if you paid attention. cred hits are based on what the rule at the tme was, or at least they're supposed to be. so if the wrong votes really were from before the 5% rule then the cred hit will also be in line with that.

    you keep repeating this alot, often ending with "i just want it to be over" but then it is over and you start it up again. you seem to want this to go on forever.

  9. Garrett Holland's Avatar

    Strictly out of sheer, morbid curiosity, have you considered how much CR someone with 45K CR would lose if they were penalized 5% for each of the 36 disputed records you have claimed? According to my calculations, worst case scenario, you would have dropped from 45,000 down to 7,100. Let's assume you had about 22K (you had 28K in 2018) at the time of Jackmovich's submissions, and the CR hit you take now was 5% of your then-CR number ... it still would have dropped from 45,000 down to 26,471. Since your recent drop was from 45,000 down to 41,000, I would suggest that you have not been penalized 5% for much of anything other than perhaps for 2 wrongly-adjudicated submissions, rather than from 36 disputed 2015-2016 submissions.

    Updated 02-09-2021 at 06:09 PM by Garrett Holland
  10. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    They are in wrong voted files they are there 74 total.

    So you can understand all wrong voted submissions have already been penalized credibility points lost.

    They cannot be penalized again, they are finished .

    Quote Originally Posted by Garrett Holland

    Strictly out of sheer, morbid curiosity, have you considered how much CR someone with 45K CR would lose if they were penalized 5% for each of the 36 disputed records you have claimed? According to my calculations, worst case scenario, you would have dropped from 45,000 down to 7,100. Let's assume you had about 22K (you had 28K in 2018) at the time of Jackmovich's submissions, and the CR hit you take now was 5% of your then-CR number ... it still would have dropped from 45,000 down to 26,471. Since your recent drop was from 45,000 down to 41,000, I would suggest that you have not been penalized 5% for much of anything other than perhaps for 2 wrongly-adjudicated submissions, rather than from 36 disputed 2015-2016 submissions.

    Updated 02-10-2021 at 06:14 PM by JJT_Defender
  11. Snowflake's Avatar

    having more of them just means you lost even less per wrong vote

  12. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    All total credibility lost at 35,000 plus on 74 wrong votes

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    having more of them just means you lost even less per wrong vote

  13. Garrett Holland's Avatar

    Okay, but what Im trying to convey is that whatever you have lost due to these Joe Jackmovich disputes, it isnt even remotely close to 5% per dispute, because if it were, you would currently have less than 8,000 CR. There have been approximately 42 Jackmovich disputes started and completed since July, which you were well above 40K CR at that moment before these disputes even started. Even if you were penalized 5% on only half of them, you still would have lost about 30,000 CR during these past 8 months. If you are suggesting that you have gotten penalized twice from a single dispute decision, then I suppose the prudent thing to do would be to let admin know SPECIFICALLY which dispute you feel you got penalized twice for. They have ways of looking into that kind of thing. Just a suggestion ;-)

    Updated 02-10-2021 at 09:00 PM by Garrett Holland
  14. Garrett Holland's Avatar

    Formula: Starting CR × 0.95^WrongVotes = Ending CR

  15. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    Look at the stats on rights votes on submissions nearly 28,000.

    Also, Joe Jackmovich when I did get penalized it was under Twin Galaxies Old Credibility points loss rules like for every wrong side of the vote on a video game submission you lose 3 to 6 credibility points.

    not under the new 5% credibility points lost rule that activated after.

    Now do you understand.

    Example

    1. If a person is charged with a crime and is awaiting to go to trial for a charge.

    Later the state changes the punishment for that crime that allegedly committed for example 6 months to 1 year to 2 years to 5 years.

    Later that person either pleads out or goes to trial and loses and is found guilty.

    The punishment would fall under the OLD LAW 6 MONTHS TO 1 YEAR

    Not the new law 2 to 5 years that is a fact

    The Same apply's to Joe Jackmovich 256 video game submissions that his video's were he put his game videos in private whereupon no access to view the game video Falls under the Twin Galaxies old Credibility points loss rule 2015

    Here is fact:

    In this country 94% at the state level plead guilty whether there guilty or not and at the Federal level it is 97% and est.78% are minority and poor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garrett Holland

    Okay, but what Im trying to convey is that whatever you have lost due to these Joe Jackmovich disputes, it isnt even remotely close to 5% per dispute, because if it were, you would currently have less than 8,000 CR. There have been approximately 42 Jackmovich disputes started and completed since July, which you were well above 40K CR at that moment before these disputes even started. Even if you were penalized 5% on only half of them, you still would have lost about 30,000 CR during these past 8 months. If you are suggesting that you have gotten penalized twice from a single dispute decision, then I suppose the prudent thing to do would be to let admin know SPECIFICALLY which dispute you feel you got penalized twice for. They have ways of looking into that kind of thing. Just a suggestion ;-)

    Updated 02-11-2021 at 05:27 AM by JJT_Defender
  16. Snowflake's Avatar

    ok....so if you now realize you only lost the 3 credibilty points from the subs where you should only lose 3 credibilty points whats the problem? you've said a lot of true things in the last few posts that i have no argument with, but your wording on context seems to give the impression that you're saying these things as an argument, that you think they somehow back up your initila point when in reality they are either irrelevant or actually go against your initial complain.

  17. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    What concerns me and many Twin Galaxies members who did vote on Joe Jackmovich video game submissions are at risk at taking huge 5% credibility points lost for each of the 256 video game submissions.

    If all Twin Galaxies members do get hit with a Credibility points loss then it should be under the old Twin Galaxies credibility points loss rule 3 to 6 credibility points loss.

    Joe Jackmovich as stated by many TG members he is in good standing with Twin Galaxies.

    But TG members never thought Joe Jackmovich would put 256 videos in private, now TG members face a Credibility points loss potentially at 5% that would be wrong and injust.

    Joe Jackmovich left Twin Galaxies why, I do not know, obviously it was for a good reason but it is up for speculation.

    Also, remember the problems of 3rd party video game sites missing game video, deleted game video, removed game video, game video put in private, restricted.

    Jace Hall owner of Twin Galaxies changed the rule a few years later after 2015 to require all Twin Galaxies members to directly upload their completed video game submissions to Twin Galaxies, that solved that problem.

    The best course for both Jace Hall and Admin Staff is Exempt all the past frivolous dispute video game submissions that either missing videos or was put in private at no fault of theirs.

    Now the disputes finding LEECHING,CHEATING USING GLITCHES OR CONTINUES THAT RULE DOES not SPECIFY THAT BREAK TG RULES SHOULD & be penalized.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    ok....so if you now realize you only lost the 3 credibilty points from the subs where you should only lose 3 credibilty points whats the problem? you've said a lot of true things in the last few posts that i have no argument with, but your wording on context seems to give the impression that you're saying these things as an argument, that you think they somehow back up your initila point when in reality they are either irrelevant or actually go against your initial complain.

    Updated 02-11-2021 at 05:20 AM by JJT_Defender
  18. Snowflake's Avatar

    Ah yes sure anything is possible. If one of joes later subs after the 5% rule has missing evidence then you’d be right that would get the penalty but that would also be appropriate

    so your concern isn’t even what happened but what might happen later? As far as that goes no need to target joe , anyone might later remove videos if you’re gonna worry about future hypotheticals

  19. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

    What concerns me and many Twin Galaxies members who did vote on Joe Jackmovich video game submissions are at risk at taking huge 5% credibility points lost for each of the 256 video game submissions.

    If all Twin Galaxies members do get hit with a Credibility points loss then it should be under the old Twin Galaxies credibility points loss rule 3 to 6 credibility points loss.

    Joe Jackmovich as stated by many TG members he is good standing with Twin Galaxies.

    But TG members never thought Joe Jackmovich would put 256 videos he private, now face a Credibility points loss potentially at 5%.

    Joe Jackmovich left Twin Galaxies why, I do not know, obviously it was for a good but is for speculation.

    Also, remember the problems of 3rd party video game sites missing game video, deleted game video, removed game video, game video put in private, restricted.

    Jace Hall owner of Twin Galaxies changed the rule a few years later after 2015 to require all Twin Galaxies members to directly upload their completed video game submissions to Twin Galaxies, that solved that problem.

    The best course for both Jace Hall and Admin Staff is Exempt all the past frivolous dispute video game submissions that either missing videos or was put in private at no fault of theirs. Note when Twin Galaxies members adjudicated voted yes accepted on video submissions the game video was their to be viewed and the majority of Twin Galaxies members voted yes and entered into Twin Galaxies Scoreboard Database archives.

    Now the disputes finding LEECHING,CHEATING, score or time is incorrect, USING GLITCHES OR CONTINUES THAT the RULE DOES not SPECIFY, BREAKs the RULES and SHOULD, be penalized.


    Updated 02-11-2021 at 06:19 AM by JJT_Defender
  20. stella_blue's Avatar


    @JJT_Defender

    Hey Juan,

    I understand your concerns. However, you have been throwing a lot of numbers around. Some of them are accurate, but there is also a fair amount of misinformation.

    I plan to create a comprehensive Joe Jackmovich master file in the form of an Excel worksheet. Once completed, I will upload the file to my Google Drive and provide the link here. Anyone will be able to download and examine the results. The file will provide information on every submission by Joe Jackmovich: Accepted, Rejected, and Disputed.

    Details will include:

    • Submission Date & Time
    • Submission URL
    • Submission Thread Title
    • Submission Scoreboard Track
    • Submission Status
    • Video Source, URL, and Availability
    • Scoreboard Status
    • Penalty for a Wrong Vote
    • Dispute Date & Time
    • Dispute URL
    • Dispute Thread Title
    • Dispute Scoreboard Track
    • Dispute Reason
    • Dispute Status


    It may take some time, but hopefully the final product will answer most questions and resolve this matter once and for all.


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