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08-21-2021 at 01:58 PM
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What was the final Twin Galaxies verdict on 2 player games? Especially all the MAME

1. Is it when one player loses all their lives, then the scores are added together to get a 2 plyer high-score?

2. Or is it when all players have lost all their lives? This one I am not in agreement because one player might be a Expert on the game and get millions of points on their own and other player is a average player getting 100k points.

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  1. Whilethekidsareaway's Avatar

    If you remove the not so better player then you don't have a team anymore, you have a single player game. I feel that if one player chooses to carry another that is fine. In pro sports a team is able to play if they are down a player.

    With any team you are going to have a better player and a not so better player and if we cut the knees out by limiting the team to the weakest player we are limiting the playing field. (do you know how hard it is to find someone who plays at my level around here lol).

    I think it should stand that if a player is knocked out the remaining player/s should be allowed to carry the team. (my back hurts but its worth it)

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  2. JJT_Defender's Avatar

    I played on many sports teams.

    Video game once one player dies the score is totaled up and that will be final score.

    True in team sports like basketball Lebron James on the Lakers

    or Kevin Durant on the Nets and 4 starters it is a team not a solo.

    I pray that your back heals.


    On the modern arcade that I JJT played their not many in the world as good me JJT and play at level I play at Like Fast and Furious Super Cars / Super Cars

    Quote Originally Posted by Whilethekidsareaway

    If you remove the not so better player then you don't have a team anymore, you have a single player game. I feel that if one player chooses to carry another that is fine. In pro sports a team is able to play if they are down a player.

    With any team you are going to have a better player and a not so better player and if we cut the knees out by limiting the team to the weakest player we are limiting the playing field. (do you know how hard it is to find someone who plays at my level around here lol).

    I think it should stand that if a player is knocked out the remaining player/s should be allowed to carry the team. (my back hurts but its worth it)

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  3. Rogerpoco's Avatar

    I agree with Allen on this one, pretty wholeheartedly.

    It's the same as any other score-if someone puts up a 2player score with a clearly inferior player, the score isn't likely gonna stand up over time anyway, two skilled players can always come along and beat the score.


    I get that it can be a little cheesy if the secondary player is simply terrible, but that's just how it is.

    Ya, put some ice on that back!

    (Giggle)

    (JJT, he was funning, the "back" issue was a metaphor.)

    :D


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  4. Blackflag82's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogerpoco

    It's the same as any other score-if someone puts up a 2player score with a clearly inferior player, the score isn't likely gonna stand up over time anyway, two skilled players can always come along and beat the score.

    This isn't always true though...there are a lot of classic games where there is no meaningful difference between what one player and what two players can do score-wise (There might be more newer ones as well, I'm just not as familiar).

    Rampage is an example. There are very few additional points available per level when 2 or 3 players are playing then when one is playing (you can take advantage of the 5k townie bonus more often, and in theory you could damage your teammate, but that's it). And while multi-team players could make it easier to get past some of the advanced levels, even then, they're not doing anything a well skilled one player can't do alone. Essentially it is a game where your total score is going to be dependent on how far you can progress in the game. Whether I play alone, with two people, or with 3 people if I make it to NYC my score is going to essentially be the same and it won't matter when the other player/s die.

    To me, the purpose of a team game is to create different circumstances which make it a different game from single play. How well can a team do? (and to me team requires more than one person to be playing). Not to create a scoreboard where it is essentially a sub version of the primary single player track. Some games are made in a way that they adjust when it is a two player game and take care of this issue (especially when they don't revert back after a player dies), but a lot do not.

    I know there are a bunch of exceptions though. We need better rules for some of the games. I think we also need different available stats to judge a multi-player game. I think of it in terms of baseball...who is the best pitcher in history? Is it the person who threw the most no-hitters, the most strikeouts, had the most wins, closed the most games, fastest fastball, lowest career era? The reality is it's some combination of these things and more. But if we had to limit the conversation solely to lowest era in a single season...we'd have a drastically different list to consider.

    But in answer to Juan's original question...no, I don't believe there has been a "verdict" like what you are asking about.

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  5. Barthax's Avatar

    Same as any other scoring on the scoreboard: if the rules* do not stipulate a specific conclusion to the performance then the rules leave the scoring to the game to decide the conclusion (or players if they voluntarily terminate play).

    * Never forget the global rules. :D

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  6. ThroughtonsHeir's Avatar

    This calls for one sport example : and it's a true sport, it has an NES game moreso :D

    DODGEBALL

    a team can be carried by one player
    Score ends when the last player 'dies'.

    I remember being in 4th year of high school / 10th grade and playing during lunchtime versus 11th grade teams and being last, timing the ball to catch it whatever power they thrown it at me. I dared them to not be scared. Not to be scared mean no shooting at my legs.Don't be treacherous, throw it at my chest and belly. May the toughest dodgeball player win. Only the people in play ends the fight when its 1 vs 1 where I grew up. I often stood last, was the 'Homer Simpson' of gobbling up the hardest shots, even if it left me red-bellied after the game, like a sunburn
    .
    My best score was I think 4 vs me and my team won.
    << I >> didn't win,
    << WE >> won, I just finished what we started.

    could not have done it without all the others during the first brawls. But to win standing last I tried to - as early as possible when being alone on my side - get the honor factor acquiesced and 'agreed upon'
    from the other team , for real challenges . Teachers loved that sportsmanship too I think. Way less risks of injuries.
    Have the people outside , the ones who are 'dead'' sit down.
    I try to play like this in Technos Super Dodge Ball as well. Gotta get my scores up sometimes...

    Ladies and dudes competed together during classes. Teams of 12-16 players. Basket Ball court size. But at lunch it was not mixed I think... In class there were 3-4 ladies who had massive power shots. 2 were strongly built. The 3rd one was 6' 2''tall in 7th grade already. Being 5' 11'' 1/2 it was humbling and made me a better player since dodgeball cannot let you guess who will be the best. Her brother was 6'5'' I think...

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    Updated 09-12-2021 at 09:18 PM by ThroughtonsHeir
  7. ThroughtonsHeir's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by JJT_Defender

    True in team sports like basketball Lebron James on the Lakers

    or Kevin Durant on the Nets and 4 starters it is a team not a solo.

    Dodgeball is a little closer to the video games that are Non-Sport in that you end with one,
    always,
    rare to have two die simultaneously at the end.

    Massive games like Dynasty Warriors and Hyrule Warriors,
    Gauntlet 2, Final Fight and other Brawlers come to mind...

    Are there tracks for multi controller enabled RPGs
    like Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy VI ( FF 2 / FF3 US)
    that allow two controllers to be used? Could they be created in your opinions, to all of you who read this question ?
  8. datagod's Avatar

    Two player games go until both players die. There are no restarts for the first player to die.

    I vote yes.

  9. bensweeneyonbass's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by datagod

    Two player games go until both players die. There are no restarts for the first player to die.

    I vote yes.

    JJT Submission.

    JJT: “Voting YES a new WR”

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