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03-21-2018 at 01:59 PM
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ESI discrepancies on game tracks

This has sort of bugged me for a while, and apologies in advance if this has been brought up and addressed. For this example, I'll use a game with a single track.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/turtles-1/mame

If you look at this track, you will of course see the scoreboard and to the right you see the ESI points awarded but only for the top 10 players:

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The track actually says there are 11 scores - and this is also a not uncommon occurrence but I digress. If this track did have 11 or more scores and you wanted to see how many potential ESI points you'd get if you played and placed say 15th of 20 players then you click more and will see for this track:

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This to me from the games I look at is just a reverse count down of the high score table, in this case there are 10 scores, the number one player is give 10 points, the 2nd is give 9 points etc. These are always round numbers which leads me to conclude that they are not the figures used in our ESI.

There are also several games, none of which come to mind without me having time to go looking, where the leaderboards for some tracks will have say 10 records, but you go in and only find 6 records and the leaderboard positions for the 6 players will be something like 1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 10 - scores 4, 5, 8 are missing, deleted, never existed.

Is this a known problem that is being worked on? or has this never been brought up?

On the subject of our ESI, when you go into the Members Leaderboards you can see all sorts of tables ranking members. I believe this has been brought up before, but little was said and definitely nothing was done..... How about a leaderboard that lists players based on their ESI divided by their score submissions. The ESI scoreboard is good, but I don't really think it's a true indication of the best players. The best players to me are the ones that earn their points on games that have a lot of competition on them, not ones where a player might hold 1,000 records on a game that maybe only 1 or 2 people have submitted for. I'm not suggesting that any of the current leaderboards get replaced, just add this additional table.

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  1. Max's Avatar
    An excellent request... and one that has been requested several times in the past without response.

    Once you click "more" you only receive PSI on a player level. I could not agree more John, ESI per position would be a great assistance, especially given that PSI does not exist any longer (aside from this one exception). It would be also a help for reconciling issues/errors in calculations.
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    There was an issue where removed scores of banned players would still leave a ghost image. This didnt happen when todd's scores were removed but didnt happen when rons where. notice you're second photo shows psi, not esi (whole numbers indicating how many people you beat). notice the number 3 is missing.. this tells me between 7th and 8th place (which would get 3 points) was where ron corcoran's score used to be.
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  3. John73's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake
    There was an issue where removed scores of banned players would still leave a ghost image. This didnt happen when todd's scores were removed but didnt happen when rons where. notice you're second photo shows psi, not esi (whole numbers indicating how many people you beat). notice the number 3 is missing.. this tells me between 7th and 8th place (which would get 3 points) was where ron corcoran's score used to be.
    Ah thanks for clearing that up.

    What exactly is the point of the PSI? It's really just duplicating what we already know in the track scoreboard isn't it?

    But back to my main point, when clicking on the more button, the inference is that it will show you more of what you are currently looking at, namely the ESI table - not PSI.
  4. admin staff's Avatar
    Hi All

    We are working to remove the PSI display. Also working to provide ability to users to correct the player count issue .

    Regards
    Admin Staff
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