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01-31-2019 at 02:14 AM
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Game pause by accident

What are people's thoughts on accidental pausing of a game. If a player, while smashing buttons, hits accidentally a pause button or the players hand slips; does this automatically make a submission invalid?

I know there are some games that have pausing prohibited in the track rules, but what about the games that don't have it in the rules?

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  1. speedy47591's Avatar

    A momentary pause like what youre describing...if it has any effect on the high score at all, its usually going to be a negative one. It breaks your rhythm. It forces you to visually relocate your character on screen etc, That's why when situations like that happen to me, I usually throw that run in the bin, cause I know I could likely do better if I just started over anyway..

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  2. Barthax's Avatar

    "No pausing" is one of the historic global rules - never written down because "everyone knows"... In practice, however, so long as it is only momentary (get back into the action as soon as you realise) and the rules don't expressly forbid it, then it's likely to get accepted (many have in TGSAP and prior).

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  3. GibGirl's Avatar

    I've had at least one submission with a brief accidental pause accepted. So they're not immediate invalidations for a submission.

    I think in the end it'll be a big mix of factors that does it. How fast was the pause/unpause, how was the video recorded (direct-feed vs camera), type of game and submission (speed run vs score), reputation of the player submitting, and so on. Essentially, the harder it would be for that brief pause to be used to potentially cheat, the less likely it offers a benefit, and such comes into play here.

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  4. Rogerpoco's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by GibGirl

    I've had at least one submission with a brief accidental pause accepted. So they're not immediate invalidations for a submission.

    I think in the end it'll be a big mix of factors that does it. How fast was the pause/unpause, how was the video recorded (direct-feed vs camera), type of game and submission (speed run vs score), reputation of the player submitting, and so on. Essentially, the harder it would be for that brief pause to be used to potentially cheat, the less likely it offers a benefit, and such comes into play here.


    Couldn't remember exactly which one, but I'm pretty sure I've had a brief pause accepted-was up front about it happening.

    I have one in the queue now(I think, it may have gone thru, I dunno), PS1 Barnstorming game 3, where the game pauses itself like crazy-games 1 and 2 didn't do it, but I remember that the pause problem inherent in the game used to actually be in the rules, I'd almost swear.


    Anyway-an accidental pause almost always does more to hurt than help, as Speedy mentioned, and if you are up front about it happening, I really believe in the adjudication process here-if it was done to gain an advantage, SOMEBODY is going to point it out, plain and simple.

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  5. Marco1019's Avatar

    I had a submission in John Madden Football where I hit Pause by mistake. I made a point to state that the accidental pause did not affect the gameplay (which it didn't as the game clock was not running). My submission was accepted.


    I believe that your submission would go through - or anyone else's, for that matter - so long as the pause was not egregious.

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  6. Marcade's Avatar

    I agree with most of the comments...

    I like to go by the motto "twice is no accident"... Accidental pauses do happen, make sure it is a quick one, once you realize you did it. As long as it didnt affect a prudent outcome of gameplay, its fine.

    The only reason for one to use the pause button, is if its part of the gameplay. Eg. The game pause entitles cycling though menus to retrieve items, guns, etc.

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  7. Snowflake's Avatar

    "accidents" always are bothersome to me, becausee then a bad player can have an advantage due to "accients" that help, or a sneaky malicous player just learns how to hide accidents. I play the magic card game for example and it always bothers when skilled players have to follow the rules, but unskilled players can break the rules, and its not cheating since they dont know better, so sometimes they get away with it with noone noticing, and when they do get caught, oh well it was an accident. letting accidents slide gives the worse player an advantage, not something i like. i'm not saying hate the accident, i get treating it as different than cheating, but an accident should NEVER be allowed to result in advantage

    to that end, an accident that provides no advantage i'm fine with letting slide. the moment some advantage is provided, then accident or not, sorry, no hate, but its gotta be DQed

    and yes, there are times a brief pause provides no real advantage and in fact hurts so i'd allow it. I dont want to say "its ok" though and then have to explain why i crack down on someone else. i'd rather say "its not ok" and then keep the option to let it slide when it really is a harmless accident

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  8. thegamer1185's Avatar

    What everyone else has said. I've never seen anyone have a submission DQ'ed because of an accidental pause. I say that also knowing the pauses were very quick. The pause occured, "Oh ****" slips out and they immediately resume play.

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  9. timmell's Avatar

    Accidentally pausing is a REASONABLE judgement.

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