Reject Me Please!

This thread intended to hold a list of adjudications where the submitter has acknowledged that their own submission should be rejected. It is not intended as a place to discuss rejections - they should be done on the relevant adjudication thread: please keep it simple. :)

I'll start with my own as I am the stupidist submitter:

PC - 3D Ultra Pinball: Nascar Pinball - Difficult - 5 Balls (2min Timelimit) - 21,007,700 - Andrew Mee
PC - 3D Ultra Pinball: Nascar Pinball - Difficult - 5 Balls (No Timelimit) - 24,537,789 - Andrew Mee
PlayStation - Hydro Thunder - PAL - Lake Powell [Fastest Race] - 1:40.41 - Andrew Mee
PC - Epic Pinball - Jungle Pinball - 66,069,494 - Andrew Mee
Sega Genesis / Sega Mega Drive - California Games - PAL - Half Pipe - 29,150 - Andrew Mee

Thanks, this thread should be a "sticky" (always on top in the thread list) until Twin Galaxies implements a way to revoke a submission.

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Originally Posted by Diskborste

Thanks, this thread should be a "sticky" (always on top in the thread list) until Twin Galaxies implements a way to revoke a submission.

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Unfortunately, there will never be a revoke submission function for numerous reasons.

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Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES

Unfortunately, there will never be a revoke submission function for numerous reasons.

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I can relate to some of the issues. Have you stated the reasons behind this decision somewhere? A potential problem is that a submitter makes a small mistake (enters the wrong level/category/date etc.) which deems the submission to be rejected. Now, the submitter will lose the same number of submission points as someone who, in bad faith, deliberately tried to cheat the system.

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Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES

Unfortunately, there will never be a revoke submission function for numerous reasons.

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Well that's fun. Been sitting on a submission I could have fixed in five minutes but I've just been waiting since Jan. 30 for it to get rejected. Don't see why a self-deleted thread can't go in the same rejected forum as everything else so people could still have a record of it. Really kills the urge to practice when a typo or small error causes a two-week delay in submitting a new score.

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Originally Posted by ssdninja

Well that's fun. Been sitting on a submission I could have fixed in five minutes but I've just been waiting since Jan. 30 for it to get rejected. Don't see why a self-deleted thread can't go in the same rejected forum as everything else so people could still have a record of it. Really kills the urge to practice when a typo or small error causes a two-week delay in submitting a new score.

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The submission system promotes the interaction of viewing other's scores in order to earn the points for submission. Your existing mistake does not block you re-submitting with the correct score: only submission points prevent you in that respect and they can usually be earned "quickly" by adjudicating the older available submissions.

New reject:M.A.M.E. - Mad Planets - Points - 31,585 - Edward Ruvalcaba

New reject:Sega Genesis / Sega Mega Drive - Vectorman 2 - NTSC - Fastest Completion - 25:18.00 - Jesse Porter

New reject:M.A.M.E. - Nova 2001 [Japan] - Points - 278,340 - William McEvoy

I think the optimal solution (Twin Galaxies philosophy (I asked for clarification but still no response (in a forum that the management should be Johnny-on-the-spot when it comes to observing and maintaining official dialogue)) versus logistics) is to allow revokes if, and only if, no other members have responded or voted. This solves most of the "damn, I messed up my submission and entered one value incorrectly, which is usually noticed right after submission is sent. Also, a preview-function really helps!

Sorry about the aforementioned sentence, first time I've used three layers of parentheses :frog:

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Originally Posted by Diskborste

I think the optimal solution (Twin Galaxies philosophy (I asked for clarification but still no response (in a forum that the management should be Johnny-on-the-spot when it comes to observing and maintaining official dialogue)) versus logistics) is to allow revokes if, and only if, no other members have responded or voted. This solves most of the "damn, I messed up my submission and entered one value incorrectly, which is usually noticed right after submission is sent. Also, a preview-function really helps!

Sorry about the aforementioned sentence, first time I've used three layers of parentheses :frog:

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By design, there is no way for users to know if anyone has voted. To implement this function would potentially create a method of determining that.

New reject (me again!):PlayStation Portable - Lumines - NTSC/PAL - Time Attack - 60 Seconds [Most Blocks Cleared] - 60 - Andrew Mee

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Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES

By design, there is no way for users to know if anyone has voted. To implement this function would potentially create a method of determining that.

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Yeah, I was unsure of that. Revised suggestion: Users may revoke if (1) no other member has commented, and (2) It has been less than X hours since submission was sent.

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Originally Posted by Diskborste

Yeah, I was unsure of that. Revised suggestion: Users may revoke if (1) no other member has commented, and (2) It has been less than X hours since submission was sent.

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Most users don't realise their mistake until after someone has commented.

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Originally Posted by Diskborste

Yeah, I was unsure of that. Revised suggestion: Users may revoke if (1) no other member has commented, and (2) It has been less than X hours since submission was sent.

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Again, 1000 votes could take place on a submission without a single comment ever being made. There is no way for a user to know who has voted, how many have voted, when any votes took place etc.

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Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES

Again, 1000 votes could take place on a submission without a single comment ever being made. There is no way for a user to know who has voted, how many have voted, when any votes took place etc.

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Yes, that is all good. My point is that the submitter should be able to revoke because of human error in the input process (especially when there is no preview option. And if the submitter can't see the votes, then it prohibits him or her from revoking as a "tactic". Being forced to wait a week or two before re-submission is not very practical.

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Originally Posted by Diskborste

Yes, that is all good. My point is that the submitter should be able to revoke because of human error in the input process (especially when there is no preview option. And if the submitter can't see the votes, then it prohibits him or her from revoking as a "tactic". Being forced to wait a week or two before re-submission is not very practical.

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There is nothing preventing immediate re-submission. Not sure where the "wait a week" issue came from?

New reject: M.A.M.E. - Quasar - Points - 7,860 - paul kearns
Still lingering:
PlayStation - Hydro Thunder - PAL - Lake Powell [Fastest Race] - 1:40.41 - Andrew Mee
PlayStation Portable - Lumines - NTSC/PAL - Time Attack - 60 Seconds [Most Blocks Cleared] - 60 - Andrew Mee
M.A.M.E. - Nova 2001 [Japan] - Points - 278,340 - William McEvoy
M.A.M.E. - Mad Planets - Points - 31,585 - Edward Ruvalcaba

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Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES

There is nothing preventing immediate re-submission. Not sure where the "wait a week" issue came from?

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I think what you're referring too is the initial response when submissions opened. Everyone had to wait a while before any submissions were accepted/rejected to gain submission points. Not the case now as anyone who has been actively participating should have more than enough points to be able to resubmit at will. I, for one, have 98 points. There will be many users with more than this I imagine.

Great thread idea BTW Andrew. Submissions plagued with user error need not clog up the queue. But they definitely should be treated the same as any other submission. Any ability to alter a submission after the fact would create too many headaches than it is worth.

Thanks for adding this Andrew.
I will re-submit.

this was rejected by the submitter
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Wayne-Meares

please reject my submission
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...117#post756117

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...chael-Ferguson
Screen shot worked but unfortunately something went wrong with my .inp recording file. I will resubmit soon.

This thread is from Jan. 3 and the submitter has asked for a rejection https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...00-Bryce-Petit

This thread is also old, Jan. 4, and has also confirmed for rejection https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-41-Andrew-Mee

How are these threads sticking around so long?

New reject:
Xbox 360 - Namco Museum Virtual Arcade - King and Balloon - Points - 15,790 - W. Dietrich

Still lingering:

• Arcade - Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 - Fastest Completion - 8:27.00 - Bryce Petit
  
• PlayStation - Hydro Thunder - PAL - Lake Powell [Fastest Race] - 1:40.41 - Andrew Mee
• PlayStation 2 - Sega Genesis Collection - NTSC - Vectorman 2 [Points] - 377,930 - Jesse Porter
• PlayStation Portable - Lumines - NTSC/PAL - Time Attack - 60 Seconds [Most Blocks Cleared] - 60 - Andrew Mee
• M.A.M.E. - Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom [Set 1] - Points [Easy Path, 7 Lives] - 306,250 - Michael Ferguson
• M.A.M.E. - Nova 2001 [Japan] - Points - 278,340 - William McEvoy
• M.A.M.E. - Quasar - Points - 7,860 - paul kearns
• Nintendo 64 - Perfect Dark - NTSC - Chicago - Stealth - Perfect Agent - 1:24.00 - Wayne Meares

New reject (me again!): Nintendo Wii - House of the Dead OVERKILL - Directors Cut - Papa's Palace of Pain - Single Player - Points - 83,525 - Andrew Mee

Still lingering:

• Arcade - Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 - Fastest Completion - 8:27.00 - Bryce Petit
• PlayStation - Hydro Thunder - PAL - Lake Powell [Fastest Race] - 1:40.41 - Andrew Mee
• PlayStation 2 - Sega Genesis Collection - NTSC - Vectorman 2 [Points] - 377,930 - Jesse Porter
• PlayStation Portable - Lumines - NTSC/PAL - Time Attack - 60 Seconds [Most Blocks Cleared] - 60 - Andrew Mee
• M.A.M.E. - Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom [Set 1] - Points [Easy Path, 7 Lives] - 306,250 - Michael Ferguson
• M.A.M.E. - Nova 2001 [Japan] - Points - 278,340 - William McEvoy
• M.A.M.E. - Quasar - Points - 7,860 - paul kearns
• Nintendo 64 - Perfect Dark - NTSC - Chicago - Stealth - Perfect Agent - 1:24.00 - Wayne Meares
• Xbox 360 - Namco Museum Virtual Arcade - King and Balloon - Points - 15,790 - W. Dietrich

New reject: Sega Dreamcast - The House Of The Dead 2 - NTSC - Arcade Mode - No Continues [Points] - 35,829 - Jared Oswald

New reject: Nintendo Wii - House of the Dead OVERKILL - Directors Cut - Carny - Single Player - Points - 94,525 - Andrew Mee

this was rejected by the submitter
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...786#post756786

Rejection requested by submitter due to typo: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-JASON-STANLEY

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...ndrew-Gardikis

Please reject this. I am resubmitting.

George Riley rejection request: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-George-Riley

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich

Had some really wonky errors when I tried to submit this one and for whatever reason it submitted two of them. Please reject this one and consider the other. Thanks

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich

typo

Rejected by submitter
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jared-Oswald

Entered wrong lap time.

Rejected by submitter
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jared-Oswald

Typo

Rejected by submitter

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shawne-Vinson

I got the wrong game for my high score for Bust-A-Move '99 on Nintendo 64. It belongs to Bust-A-Move 2.

Rejected by submitter.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Jared-Oswald

Rejected by submitter.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...320-W-Dietrich

Duplicate submission

EDIT: Removed due to confusion

Please reject, since it is a duplicate and I have added additional supplemental material on the other submission: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Corey-Chambers

edit:changed my mind

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Originally Posted by d3scride

EDIT: Had wrong URL posted. Fixed.


Accidentally submitted twice. Please reject this one: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/141043-M-A-M-E-Dragon-Buster-Points-95-780-Craig-Gallant

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Ok, this is confusing. Craig, clicking on the link you've provided (topic ID #141043) takes me to the other submission (topic ID #141044).

Can we get a TG admin to delete both threads so we can start again?

If not, I'll have to abstain on both submissions. It seems to be the safest choice.

Both threads are legit, I just accidentally posted it twice so I assume the appropriate cause of action was to reject one. Whatever you guys decide to do is fine either way.

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Originally Posted by d3scride

Both threads are legit, I just accidentally posted it twice so I assume the appropriate cause of action was to reject one. Whatever you guys decide to do is fine either way.

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I understand that both scores are valid. I'm just looking for some clarity.

Are we accepting both scores? Accepting one and rejecting the other? If so, which one?

I want to avoid getting shafted due to a confusing situation.

With my luck, I'll probably accept the score that everyone else rejects, and vice versa.

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Originally Posted by stella_blue

I understand that both scores are valid. I'm just looking for some clarity.

Are we accepting both scores? Accepting one and rejecting the other? If so, which one?

I want to avoid getting shafted due to a confusing situation.

With my luck, I'll probably accept the score that everyone else rejects, and vice versa.

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I removed the link due to confusion. I would say to vote accept based on the legitimacy of the submission. If you feel both are legitimate, vote accordingly.

I don't get it. unvoted both.

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Originally Posted by 1500points

I don't get it. unvoted both.

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Agreed. Without a "do over" to straighten this out, any vote I cast represents an unnecessary risk.

This is exactly why I keep saying to not reject duplicates: humans do too many errors already (me especially).

Another mistake by me: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...768-Andrew-Mee

... and another one: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-03-Andrew-Mee

Need to submit under a joint account: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...istopher-Teter

I misentered the score here: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Craig-Gallant

Another one from me: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...326-Andrew-Mee

We didn't both stop at the same time. Whoops. https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...90-Chris-Teter

Please reject this score. I'll resubmit now that the database is reconfigured to accept milliseconds:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...s-Don-Atreides

Please reject this submission since it did not add all the text which contained the link to the video footage. https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Corey-Chambers

I screwed up posting "PAL" scores under "NTSC" variations:

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Originally Posted by stella_blue

Currently, 4 open adjudications are affected by the same issue (submitted under NTSC instead of PAL):

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-78-Andrew-Mee
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-59-Andrew-Mee
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...530-Andrew-Mee
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...501-Andrew-Mee

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Please reject this submission, the time was wrong: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Corey-Chambers

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jesse-Porter

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Jesse-Porter

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...20-paul-kearns
wrong romset? still on the fence!

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...010-Andrew-Mee

Reject thread for Jesse as he's re-posted with the correct time: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jesse-Porter

Reject due to incorrect score posted- https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post765014

Reject due to submitting under wrong title: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...968#post765968

Reject due to being submitted to incorrect variation: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...000-Andrew-Mee
Reject due to inconsistencies in the footage (explain in thread): https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...880-Andrew-Mee

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Originally Posted by Barthax

Reject due to being submitted to incorrect variation: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...000-Andrew-Mee
Reject due to inconsistencies in the footage (explain in thread): https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...880-Andrew-Mee

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Yet another poll closes with the worst possible timing:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...880-Andrew-Mee

The submission was accepted less than 1 minute after I responded to your explanation of the video's "out of sequence" condition:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post766384

I voted to reject, then reconsidered moments later. Realizing that the score might get pushed through regardless of the new information, I decided that "unvoting" was a more prudent option. Unfortunately, I was too late (probably by just a few seconds). Bang! 100 point CR penalty.

Absolutely unbelievable.

One might argue that a flurry of "reject" votes (mine and at least 2 others) near the poll closing date should trigger an extension of the voting period.

It apparently does not work that way.

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Originally Posted by stella_blue

I voted to reject, then reconsidered moments later. Realizing that the score might get pushed through regardless of the new information, I decided that "unvoting" was a more prudent option. Unfortunately, I was too late (probably by just a few seconds). Bang! 100 point CR penalty.

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Once the challenge function becomes available, you'll get your CR back and everyone who voted to approve will get dinged.

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Originally Posted by Barthax

Reject due to being submitted to incorrect variation: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...000-Andrew-Mee
Reject due to inconsistencies in the footage (explain in thread): https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...880-Andrew-Mee

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At the risk of sounding bitter, I'm almost hoping that this one also gets accepted:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...000-Andrew-Mee

If it does slip through, I shall immediately challenge the outcome. It will serve as a fitting punishment for the substantial number of voters who can't be bothered to revisit a submission on which they have already voted.

You've been forewarned.

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Originally Posted by donatreides

Once the challenge function becomes available, you'll get your CR back and everyone who voted to approve will get dinged.

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I'm not so sure about that, Don.

The performance itself is completely legit. The score is valid.

I was just curious as to why the resulting high score table and the submitted attempt appear out of sequence.

I'll take the CR hit like a man (despite my whining), but next time I plan to err on the side of caution.

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Originally Posted by stella_blue

The performance itself it completely legit. The score is valid.

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Ah, I see. It was just out of order. Unfortunate.

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Originally Posted by stella_blue

At the risk of sounding bitter, I'm almost hoping that this one also gets accepted:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...000-Andrew-Mee

If it does slip through, I shall immediately challenge the outcome. It will serve as a fitting punishment for the substantial number of voters who can't be bothered to revisit a submission on which they have already voted.

You've been forewarned.

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This is why I"m so split on how i feel about the 100 point penalty. Its really harsh for those of us who are making our best honest decision. Yet, you know full well there are lots of people who clearly vote without even viewing the evidence, they just go with the flow. The 100 point wack is needed to discourage the behavior the screwed you over here. Hopefully, as time goes, everyone will become responsible enough to get us to the point where a 100 point wack is unneeded.

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Originally Posted by donatreides

Ah, I see. It was just out of order. Unfortunate.

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Thanks for quoting my typo ("it" instead of "is") before I had a chance to make the correction.

Why, I oughta . . .

:friendly_wink:

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Originally Posted by Snowflake

Hopefully, as time goes, everyone will become responsible enough to get us to the point where a 100 point wack is unneeded.

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Unlikely, however, those people who vote blindfolded will hit enough bumps that their CR should drop fairly precipitously while good judges will climb ever upward.

I'll take the CR hit like a man (despite my whining), but next time I plan to err on the side of caution.[/QUOTE]

The same goes for me

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Originally Posted by stella_blue

Yet another poll closes with the worst possible timing:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...880-Andrew-Mee

The submission was accepted less than 1 minute after I responded to your explanation of the video's "out of sequence" condition:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post766384

I voted to reject, then reconsidered moments later. Realizing that the score might get pushed through regardless of the new information, I decided that "unvoting" was a more prudent option. Unfortunately, I was too late (probably by just a few seconds). Bang! 100 point CR penalty.

Absolutely unbelievable.

One might argue that a flurry of "reject" votes (mine and at least 2 others) near the poll closing date should trigger an extension of the voting period.

It apparently does not work that way.

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This combined with the last Rudy thread we were posting on definitely supports how the system works. Submissions need a certain amount of votes (either by users or by combined credibility) and then the winning side passes. It kinda dissuades people from making alerts late in the submission process because like I don't want to cost people 100 credibility again for saying that the video is gone.

One second out: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-56-Andrew-Mee

Please reject https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post767181 Crazy Kong wrong inp for track
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...ohn-McAllister Space Encounter wrong settings used

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-Jesse-Porter

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shawne-Vinson


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shawne-Vinson


I just got the wrong point seconds for megaman anniversary collection for power battle for on GameCube.

And I got the new highest score for the other just now and I got wrong settings options from yesterday it was on Bust-A-Move '99 On N64.

I entered the wrong time: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-01-Andrew-Mee

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...160-Josh-Jones

Silly typo in the minutes: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...916-Andrew-Mee

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Originally Posted by Barthax

Silly typo in the minutes: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...916-Andrew-Mee

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I appreciate silly typos as much as the next guy, not to mention the field goals that usually accompany them.

It's those 20-yard chip shots that keep me coming back to this thread.

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Wrong number of lives used. https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post768312

Wrong rom name used. https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...ohn-McAllister

Again wrong rom name used. https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...ohn-McAllister

Used default settings on Satan of Saturn
Used wrong rom name for the version that I was using for Extermination
Used wrong rom name for the version that I was using for Battle Shark

NVRAM enabled on this one. Please see thread for more info.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...istopher-Teter

Posted to NTSC where should have been PAL: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...w-Mee?p=768946

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Originally Posted by Barthax

Posted to NTSC where should have been PAL: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...w-Mee?p=768946

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So that score went through as accepted when it clearly should have been rejected...

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...528-Andrew-Mee

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Originally Posted by d3scride

So that score went through as accepted when it clearly should have been rejected...

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...528-Andrew-Mee

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This one should actually have some delayed justice. I would image this will be easy to challenge and win the challenge, then we'll get our points back, and the people who just click accept on everything will get the downgrade they deserve.

But for now we still took the hit for it :/

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Originally Posted by Snowflake

and the people who just click accept on everything will get the downgrade they deserve.

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Yeah, they will. So will a few conscientious adjudicators who do not click accept on everything.

The NTSC vs. PAL discrepancy is an easy item to miss, as evidenced by the fact that 8 full days passed before someone noticed it. Less than 2 hours after the observation was posted, the topic was abruptly closed.

Why am I not surprised?

A number of us (myself included) will end up getting slammed for not having the "good sense" to be logged in between 4:57 PM and 6:50 PM (EDT) this afternoon. Should we have noticed the incorrect track? Sure, but the timing of these completed adjudications is also an issue.

Situations like this one have become an unfortunate trend.

Yeah and it's really showing a failing of the system. Once the requisite credibility/voting numbers are filled the adjudication completes, seemingly regardless of sudden voting trends in one direction. This is a reason why people need to be able to at least suspend voting on their submission so people don't get dinged for voting the right way.

I have bookmarked the Submission Review forum to display the topics in ascending order by submission date, as opposed to the default view of descending order by last post date. I generally focus my attention on page 1 (the earliest submissions) before even looking at page 2. Last week I was reviewing a number of older items on which I had not yet voted. After some consideration, I voted on 3 of them. Within 5 minutes of casting my vote, all 3 adjudication processes suddenly completed.

Is that a coincidence? I think not.

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Originally Posted by stella_blue

I have bookmarked the Submission Review forum to display the topics in ascending order by submission date, as opposed to the default view of descending order by last post date. I generally focus my attention on page 1 (the earliest submissions) before even looking at page 2. Last week I was reviewing a number of older items on which I had not yet voted. After some consideration, I voted on 3 of them. Within 5 minutes of casting my vote, all 3 adjudication processes suddenly completed.

Is that a coincidence? I think not.

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I generally look at the recent submissions first: if I have time then I'll look at older ones that I didn't get to. However, I've seen the "rapid end" after casting my vote too: there has to be a cut-off point somewhere & it's not a surprise that this has been noticed a few times. in itself, it's not something to worry about but changes in trend of voting should cause some sort of delay, I agree. Quite how that gets evaluated is a nightmare for the TG algorithm chaps to consider. ;)

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Originally Posted by Barthax

I generally look at the recent submissions first: if I have time then I'll look at older ones that I didn't get to. However, I've seen the "rapid end" after casting my vote too: there has to be a cut-off point somewhere & it's not a surprise that this has been noticed a few times. in itself, it's not something to worry about but changes in trend of voting should cause some sort of delay, I agree. Quite how that gets evaluated is a nightmare for the TG algorithm chaps to consider. ;)

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Well, I'm going to get spanked to the tune of 100 points when this latest one is overturned.

How can they do this to me? After all, I have "a spectacular aura about", whatever that means.

:RpS_rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by stella_blue

How can they do this to me? After all, I have "a spectacular aura about", whatever that means.

:RpS_rolleyes:

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I'm not sure who thinks I'm "splendid to behold" but I think they need glasses. :D

I added the submission to the scoreboard errors thread so hopefully it'll get sorted out

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Originally Posted by stella_blue

Yeah, they will. So will a few conscientious adjudicators who do not click accept on everything.

The NTSC vs. PAL discrepancy is an easy item to miss, as evidenced by the fact that 8 full days passed before someone noticed it. Less than 2 hours after the observation was posted, the topic was abruptly closed.

Why am I not surprised?

A number of us (myself included) will end up getting slammed for not having the "good sense" to be logged in between 4:57 PM and 6:50 PM (EDT) this afternoon. Should we have noticed the incorrect track? Sure, but the timing of these completed adjudications is also an issue.

Situations like this one have become an unfortunate trend.

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My issue with this is and more direct capture again. How can I tell that it is NTSC or Pal in the first place? I have to rip the youtube/ download it to my computer then confirm it is 25fps. Or can someone else tell me how we could determine this is PAL/NTSC some other way?

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My issue with this is and more direct capture again. How can I tell that it is NTSC or Pal in the first place? I have to rip the youtube/ download it to my computer then confirm it is 25fps. Or can someone else tell me how we could determine this is PAL/NTSC some other way?

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That's the best method when the detail is not obvious from the footage but in my Xbox footage i tend to go into the Video options of the Xbox and show that PAL-60 is turned off: in this case the detail was readily available to anyone that watched it. ;) I think this just highlights the fact people don't really care whether something is 60Hz or 50Hz.

Note: with camera footage and with combination footage even this detail (download & check FPS) cannot be determined. In these cases there is a reliance on the footage proving which region their console is and most gamers do not perform such tasks.

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That's the best method when the detail is not obvious from the footage but in my Xbox footage i tend to go into the Video options of the Xbox and show that PAL-60 is turned off: in this case the detail was readily available to anyone that watched it. ;) I think this just highlights the fact people don't really care whether something is 60Hz or 50Hz.

Note: with camera footage and with combination footage even this detail (download & check FPS) cannot be determined. In these cases there is a reliance on the footage proving which region their console is and most gamers do not perform such tasks.

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I didn't watch this one, but your right no one cares between 60hz or 50Hz.

Its true that an honest person could've missed this one. Its also true no one cares about 50Hz or 60Hz. People do care about "reject me please" though. It was specifically requested here to reject it, so I went ahead and rejected. I think its bunk that I lose credibility for rejecting a submission when the submitter himself asked for it to be rejected.

Posted as NTSC where should have been PAL: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...131-Andrew-Mee

This submission was for discussion purposes only and so now it's time to close and dismiss it, thanx.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...ohn-McAllister

please reject my submission for this track:

Sega Genesis / Sega Mega Drive - Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP II - NTSC - Free Run - Australia [Fastest Lap] - 36.05 milliseconds - john brissie

thanks.

btw, shouldnt this be under submission review?

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please reject my submission for this track:

Sega Genesis / Sega Mega Drive - Ayrton Senna's Super Monaco GP II - NTSC - Free Run - Australia [Fastest Lap] - 36.05 milliseconds - john brissie

thanks.

btw, shouldnt this be under submission review?

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I may be missing something, but the submission looks perfectly valid to me.

What is the basis for the rejection request?

im planning on submitting another one and didnt want them to get mixed up, i thought this was the best option. please advise if i should do something else.

thanks

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im planning on submitting another one and didnt want them to get mixed up, i thought this was the best option. please advise if i should do something else.

thanks

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My opinion is that all submissions should be evaluated independently.

There will be no scoreboard errors (i.e., duplication) resulting from the acceptance of multiple submissions (same player & track).

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My opinion is that all submissions should be evaluated independently.

There will be no scoreboard errors (i.e., duplication) resulting from the acceptance of multiple submissions (same player & track).

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In other words, don't worry about either of these situations:

• Both submitted times appearing together on the scoreboard
• The slower time replacing the faster time, if both are accepted

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My opinion is that all submissions should be evaluated independently.

There will be no scoreboard errors (i.e., duplication) resulting from the acceptance of multiple submissions (same player & track).

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The problem is, it can take a while to get 'accept'. If he submits his better record, and that happens to get accepted first, and then this score gets accepted second, the worse score will overwrite the better score. He needs this score to be adjudicated one way or the other before he can safely submit the better one. And since request for rejects happen more quickly than waiting for acceptance, its an understandable request.

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The problem is, it can take a while to get 'accept'. If he submits his better record, and that happens to get accepted first, and then this score gets accepted second, the worse score will overwrite the better score. He needs this score to be adjudicated one way or the other before he can safely submit the better one. And since request for rejects happen more quickly than waiting for acceptance, its an understandable request.

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The better score will not be overwritten. I don't understand why people are concerned about that.

A valid submission should never be rejected. Period.

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Originally Posted by Snowflake

The problem is, it can take a while to get 'accept'. If he submits his better record, and that happens to get accepted first, and then this score gets accepted second, the worse score will overwrite the better score. He needs this score to be adjudicated one way or the other before he can safely submit the better one. And since request for rejects happen more quickly than waiting for acceptance, its an understandable request.

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yes very good point but it will take me a while to submit another one so this is good. i didnt want the system to be worrying about a track that i was just going to submit another one for fairly soon and if i did get a faster time now i would wait until it the first score was approved/rejected before i submitted the next one. either way is good just as long as i can keep track of them and its not mucking up anything.

If an OP asks for a score to be rejected I'll always listen to their request.

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The better score will not be overwritten. I don't understand why people are concerned about that.

A valid submission should never be rejected. Period.

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okay then, thanks for the clarification. :encouragement:

That said, give us final word if you want it rejected or to judge it on its merits (which will probably lead to an accept).

leave it, sorry for the confusion i caused.

Update your submission thread just to be safe so people know to change it back to accept if they already voted. I'll change mine back now.

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leave it, sorry for the confusion i caused.

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You got it. I'm sticking with "Accepted".

well we will see what happens, i just got a better time i want to submit.

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The better score will not be overwritten. I don't understand why people are concerned about that.

A valid submission should never be rejected. Period.

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why do you believe the score will not be overwritten? do you have a source? I'll admit i cant be 100% sure, but the reason i believe that, is because there was a state of the galaxies adress where jace was asked, he was also unsure how the system would handle that, but he believed that it would be overwritten. In the absence of proof otherwise, i'll go by Jace's admittedly unsure guess.

whenever someone starts this view of, "I have 2 valid scores so reject one. I tend to unvote on the reject one."
there is too much confusion interjected. when the simple thing as stated above is to just leave both and let them go thru. there are quite a few examples of that via TGSAP and I've even done it on two or three different situations, most recent example is ZK99.

this is all beta right now, so I am positive that if a lower score was accidentally overwritten when both were in at same time, it is simply a glitch to fix.
but jace has stated that if you have a higher score in database, then later submit a lower score that it will place the lower score in the system.

well i hate to be on the fence about this but it would be so simple to just reject my slower first submission and not leave it to chance. i actually didnt think i would be achieving a good lap time for a few days.

jace has stated that the voters outnumber the commenters, so the problem is that there is no guarantee of being on the winning side of a submission vote when confusion is interjected.

Sure you say to reject, but the submission is actually acceptable therefore you are going to get a variety of votes on either side of it.

what I think you might be alluding to would be an abort/jettison/reject button by the submitter...which doesn't yet exist.

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why do you believe the score will not be overwritten? do you have a source? I'll admit i cant be 100% sure, but the reason i believe that, is because there was a state of the galaxies adress where jace was asked, he was also unsure how the system would handle that, but he believed that it would be overwritten. In the absence of proof otherwise, i'll go by Jace's admittedly unsure guess.

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There have been numerous "battles" between players whose back-and-forths have and still are in adjudication before the previous attempt(s) completed adjudication: only the most relevant score remains for those that have completed. There have been very few requests in the scoreboard errors thread to rectify accepted adjudications and they're usually caused by the track being incorrectly "highest to lowest" or reverse (and some bugs which have been ironed out).

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There have been numerous "battles" between players whose back-and-forths have and still are in adjudication before the previous attempt(s) completed adjudication: only the most relevant score remains for those that have completed. There have been very few requests in the scoreboard errors thread to rectify accepted adjudications and they're usually caused by the track being incorrectly "highest to lowest" or reverse (and some bugs which have been ironed out).

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Thats very positve news then. Previously I saw this as a case of "the lesser of two evils". Not rejecting could lead to a score being overwritten, but rejecting could lead to someone who previously accepted getting a credibility ding when they did nothing wrong. I think we alll care about credibility. So if you're sure about scores not being overwritten, then going forward, i'll only be rejecting scores that are actually incorrect.

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whenever someone starts this view of, "I have 2 valid scores so reject one. I tend to unvote on the reject one."

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Yeah, I "unvoted" a few minutes ago.

It's the safest choice, given the uncertainty that has been expressed within the past 8-9 hours.

There's no way to be sure that everyone is on the same page, and I find it frustrating.

Even if there is a mistake by the scoreboard that does perform the worst-case scenario: the thread will still be in the Accepted forum and the case can be highlighted to TG staff and fixed. :)

The only thing we should be adjudicating is the evidence submitted (and supplementary evidence if required). If the score was good enough for the user to submit it, it is good enough to be reviewed in light of the evidence provided. The only reason a user should validly point out their own submission should be rejected is if there is a mistake in score, settings or some other aspect of the rules.

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The only thing we should be adjudicating is the evidence submitted (and supplementary evidence if required). If the score was good enough for the user to submit it, it is good enough to be reviewed in light of the evidence provided. The only reason a user should validly point out their own submission should be rejected is if there is a mistake in score, settings or some other aspect of the rules.

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No argument from me.

Whether a player submits a better score or accidentally creates a duplicate submission, each one should be adjudicated on its own merit.

I wish we could all agree on that point.

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So if you're sure about scores not being overwritten, then going forward, i'll only be rejecting scores that are actually incorrect.

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If you're looking for a concrete example, I found a recent one. All times are expressed as Eastern Daylight Time (EDT).

1) Submitted on April 14, 2015 at 11:36 PM; Accepted on May 25, 2015 at 12:20 AM

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Corey-Chambers

2) Submitted on April 20, 2015 at 1:27 AM; Accepted on May 10, 2015 at 10:31 AM

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Corey-Chambers

The slower time (22:56) was submitted more than 5 days earlier, but the adjudication process did not complete until yesterday.

Take a look at the scoreboard to see which one remains:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=9653

Here's the deal. If someone requests that a valid submission be rejected, they're screwing themselves and all the people that vote on their submission. They're screwing the voters because some people are going to fall on the wrong side of the adjudication. They're screwing themselves because no one will touch their submissions with a 10-foot pole after they start messing with them in this manner.

I realize it wasn't intentional, but requesting that it be rejected was literally the worst possible thing you could do. Now it will sit in limbo because nobody will touch it and you won't want to submit another time because you're afraid it will be overwritten if the first DOES go through. (Per Jace's comment in one of the State of the Galaxies, it WILL be overwritten).

At this point. I won't touch it, sorry. Maybe ask Jace for intervention?

Edit: The thing you SHOULD do is be patient. Wait until your first submission goes through then submit another.

I'm glad you mentioned that Don. I remember Jace saying it but I couldn't be sure. I'm glad I wasn't going crazy :3

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If you're looking for a concrete example, I found a recent one. All times are expressed as Eastern Daylight Time (EDT).

1) Submitted on April 14, 2015 at 11:36 PM; Accepted on May 25, 2015 at 12:20 AM

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Corey-Chambers

2) Submitted on April 20, 2015 at 1:27 AM; Accepted on May 10, 2015 at 10:31 AM

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Corey-Chambers

The slower time (22:56) was submitted more than 5 days earlier, but the adjudication process did not complete until yesterday.

Take a look at the scoreboard to see which one remains:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=9653

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Its easy for me to verify which score one. Its also easy for me to verify submission date. Where do you look to determine when the adjudication completed though?

Hi All

I see that a lot of people are talking about lower score overwriting higher score. Just to clarify that a lower score will never overwrite a higher score.

We have database services which calculate percentages and assigns ranks first and then remove duplicates if any.

So if you already have a rank 1 on a track and you submit a score which would be placed at rank 4 then it would be placed on 4th position on acceptance .

After all this your lower score will be removed and all percentages and ranks will be calculated again.

I hope this made sense .

I wanted to cover the case where a "wrong " or " unwanted "score is accepted and people want to reverse the acceptance .

In this case all credibility points will be calculated again. So people originally who voted accepted will get 100 points deduction and people who voted rejected will be rewarded 3 points for the score. No submission points will be refunded .

So please vote carefully. We have a strong system which recalculates all credibility points automatically

Regards
Twingalaxies Staff

It's in the shoutbox and I think that's it. Stella keeps notes of that information though for data analysis.

well this has certainly been informational, i didnt realize that this rejection process was strictly a voter process. i thought the tg staff just removed it manually. f.

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well this has certainly been informational, i didnt realize that this rejection process was strictly a voter process. i thought the tg staff just removed it manually. f.

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Dont sweat it, John. From my experience, I have improved in many of my own scores/times in the past, (of the same exact submitted track) while pending adjudication on prior ones. In the end, everything irons out properly, and your "best time/score" ALWAYS overrides. Never had an issue yet.

The only scenario one should request a "self-reject", is if it was inputted as a score error, or the wrong game was submitted, or the settings played were wrong.

Game on!!! :encouragement:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Matthew-Felix

Please reject this score due to being submitted on the wrong track.

Please Reject. Incorrect time.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Patrick-Maher

Please reject this.
I put in the score instead of the distance.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-john-brissie

Sega Genesis / Sega Mega Drive - Olympic Winter Games: Lillehammer '94 - NTSC - Ski Jumping - Furthest Distance - 70.3 - john brissie

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-john-brissie

brissie

please reject tthis
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jacob-Spring

I added the wrong score and information for this track

rejecting as requested

sorry, that was meant for the other post, browser issues.

Please reject this submission:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-300-Pete-Hahn

Set a team account and will re-submit when I have enough submission points on the team account.

Incorrect submission: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...486-Andrew-Mee
Incorrect time: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...568#post770568

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jesse-Porter

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Jesse-Porter

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jesse-Porter

Please reject this score due to typo.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Jesse-Porter

REJECT this submission. wrong video uploaded.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-300-Mark-Hoff

Please reject this submission do to a bad wlf file.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post771328

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post771880

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jesse-Porter

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Wayne-Meares

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jesse-Porter

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jesse-Porter

Should have been PAL: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...265-Andrew-Mee

Wrong damn score. -__-

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post773033

Wrong time submitted

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Peter-Nadalin

Please reject: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

Time was corrected with a frame count.

Please reject the following submission. For some reason the video didn't get uploaded/processed even though I sat here and waited for it to finish?
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jacob-Spring

Please reject this submission. The score is incorrect. I can't tell a 1 from a 4.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

Please REJECT this submission, the time entered is incorrect:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-011-Pete-Hahn

Please reject this submission, the wrong difficulty settings were used.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-David-Manning

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jesse-Porter

[SIZE=4] https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post774864

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post774862[\SIZE]

Here's a rejected score of mine.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post774995

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jesse-Porter

Wrong time entered: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...nds-Andrew-Mee

Reject this wrong time submission please.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brandon-Finton

Misread rules: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...100-Andrew-Mee

Reject this record please. I have to start over for my record.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post775235

Wrong score (Not OP, trying to help folks be aware)

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post775411

All of these also:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Matthew-Felix

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Matthew-Felix

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Matthew-Felix

Thanks for posting that ssdninja

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shawne-Vinson

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shawne-Vinson

Not again! I have to start over for only Normal settings for Bubble Bobble.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shawne-Vinson

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shawne-Vinson

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Not again! I have to start over for only Normal settings for Bubble Bobble.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shawne-Vinson

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shawne-Vinson

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These are both accepted - there is a typo in the rules.

Thanks, Barthax. Man, I'm so relief.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post775908

Numbers transposed: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...290-Andrew-Mee

Wrong score: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-23-Andrew-Mee

Wrong time: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...nds-Andrew-Mee

wrong track https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-william-rosa

I will be using a different MAME version. Please reject these two.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Matthew-Felix
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Matthew-Felix

These are all not in a WolfMAME emulator ;_;

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich

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These are all not in a WolfMAME emulator ;_;

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich

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Sorry I didn't spot it earlier, Joe. :(

reject my score for ninja gaiden & the other submission is a duplicate so reject it too . thankyou

...nothing to see here...please move along...

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reject my score for ninja gaiden & the other submission is a duplicate so reject it too . thankyou

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Please add the links to the post to make it easier to find :D

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Please add the links to the post to make it easier to find :D

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This submission has already completed. It was rejected on July 26th at 2:51 PM (EDT):

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-JASON-STANLEY

This one is still open:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-JASON-STANLEY

Please Reject this one due to not having a co-op account for this co-op submission:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Scott-Simpson

I will make a co-op account asap to get this re-submitted.

Thanks guys!

Please reject this score.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...806#post777806

Please reject this score.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Jared-Oswald

Video upload jacked up. Will post new submission. thank you.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post778641

please reject this,

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Michael-Sroka

Wrong time: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...nds-Andrew-Mee

Reject this one too: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...nds-Andrew-Mee

Another wrong time: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...d=1#post778972

Please REJECT wrong Time Submitted

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Peter-Nadalin

- https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
- https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post779029
- https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich

These don't play back for people

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- https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich
- https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post779029
- https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich

These don't play back for people

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Wrong!!!

This ONE does not playback:
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich

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Wrong!!!

This ONE does not playback:
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich

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I don't know how people want to proceed with the Rampart submission but the Ninja Spirit submission has nvram enabled and violates the mame submission rule requiring it be disabled. The playback works but it breaks the rule, so I guess voters can use this as a precedent to turn over that rule or keep it.

Please reject this score, time miscalculation, there will be new submission with corrected time
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Victor-Delgado

Wrong time.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post779496

Wrong score: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...131-Andrew-Mee

Wrong time: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...nds-Andrew-Mee

Wrong time: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...nds-Andrew-Mee

Wrong Score: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jared-Oswald

Wrong Score:https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post780398

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Wrong Score: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jared-Oswald

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although the second link you posted did have a request to reject from the submitter, this one does not. I'm agreeing it deserves a reject, but since the OP didnt actually request it, people should watch the evidence for themselves instead of just assuming the OP requested it. It sets a dangerous precedent if we start posting other people's score that we think should be rejected when they themselves dont ask for a reject.

Please reject this score.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Jared-Oswald

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jared-Oswald

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jared-Oswald

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Jared-Oswald

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Originally Posted by Snowflake

although the second link you posted did have a request to reject from the submitter, this one does not. I'm agreeing it deserves a reject, but since the OP didnt actually request it, people should watch the evidence for themselves instead of just assuming the OP requested it. It sets a dangerous precedent if we start posting other people's score that we think should be rejected when they themselves dont ask for a reject.

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I get your reasoning why but I imagine the reason he posted that is because Jared doesn't generally use this thread when he makes errors. I used to post some of his scores on here too but I stopped since it's really the responsibility of the submitter but I understand looking for out people since some errors are just as easy for submitters to make as it is for voters.

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I get your reasoning why but I imagine the reason he posted that is because Jared doesn't generally use this thread when he makes errors. I used to post some of his scores on here too but I stopped since it's really the responsibility of the submitter but I understand looking for out people since some errors are just as easy for submitters to make as it is for voters.

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well sure, if in the main thread the submitter himself says "go ahead and reject" i get copying it here, like with the second link. but if the submitter, even in the original thread never agreed to a reject, it seems a little more iffy

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well sure, if in the main thread the submitter himself says "go ahead and reject" i get copying it here, like with the second link. but if the submitter, even in the original thread never agreed to a reject, it seems a little more iffy

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Ideally every submitter that makes a mistake and asks for a rejection would immediately post it here so no one else makes a mistake too. We do have pretty good compliance with using this thread though at least :D

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although the second link you posted did have a request to reject from the submitter, this one does not. I'm agreeing it deserves a reject, but since the OP didnt actually request it, people should watch the evidence for themselves instead of just assuming the OP requested it. It sets a dangerous precedent if we start posting other people's score that we think should be rejected when they themselves dont ask for a reject.

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I was just doing what a few others have done. Didn't think it could be a controversial vote based on it's the wrong score. Was trying to make things easier for the adjudicator, but I have no problem abstaining from this action.

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well sure, if in the main thread the submitter himself says "go ahead and reject" i get copying it here, like with the second link. but if the submitter, even in the original thread never agreed to a reject, it seems a little more iffy

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And thank you for your concern.:encouragement:

Split personality mistake: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...nds-Andrew-Mee

Wrong song.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jared-Oswald

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post781546

wrong level

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...886&viewfull=1

wrong score

Wrong Mode.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jared-Oswald

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Wrong Mode.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jared-Oswald

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False alarm, the score is correct.

Please reject this submission - I entered the wrong time.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

Wrong time based on community observation: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...drew-Mee/page2

Wrong Scores.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jared-Oswald

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jared-Oswald

Wrong times:
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...nds-Andrew-Mee

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/147083-PlayStation-2-Midnight-Club-Street-Racing-PAL-New-York-Waypoint-2-Long-Island-Sprint-Time-44-79-milliseconds-Andrew-Mee

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...nds-Andrew-Mee

Wrong Score.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-Jared-Oswald

wrong score

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Joe-Jackmovich

wrong mame version, and no playback
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Roald-Podevyn

right mame but no playback possible with inp.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Roald-Podevyn

Well hydrothunder threadcon is closed up, so this is the new hangout..easy points, no fuss, free liquor...

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Well hydrothunder threadcon is closed up, so this is the new hangout..easy points, no fuss, free liquor...

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oh no ;____; my favorite thread

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oh no ;____; my favorite thread

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Pfft! It's about time. lol

The lake is now all dried up, and my day is completely ruined! :frown-new:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

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Well hydrothunder threadcon is closed up, so this is the new hangout..easy points, no fuss, free liquor...

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Farewell noble threadcon! :apologetic:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-500-Paul-Tesi

Please Reject. Going to make a new submission where video is in the description and not on a reply.

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https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-500-Paul-Tesi

Please Reject. Going to make a new submission where video is in the description and not on a reply.

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Unless I missed something that submission is perfectly valid. There is no problem with having the video as a comment, especially when you updated the post so quickly. I'd recommend you update to cancel the rejection request since some people may get burned in the confusion ;_;

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Unless I missed something that submission is perfectly valid. There is no problem with having the video as a comment, especially when you updated the post so quickly. I'd recommend you update to cancel the rejection request since some people may get burned in the confusion ;_;

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i second this. Here's my fear with automaticaly rejecting anything a user requests. Imagine an extreme case. Some user posts a valid submission. The same user is vindictive and notices his enemy accepts it. That use then asks everyone to reject just to ***** over the other guys credibility. Now, i know thats not whats happening here, but you see what i'm saying. Rejecting valid submissions could punish innocent people who correct accepted.

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i second this. Here's my fear with automaticaly rejecting anything a user requests. Imagine an extreme case. Some user posts a valid submission. The same user is vindictive and notices his enemy accepts it. That use then asks everyone to reject just to ***** over the other guys credibility. Now, i know thats not whats happening here, but you see what i'm saying. Rejecting valid submissions could punish innocent people who correct accepted.

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Yeah but who really would change theirs to reject when the video they watched was legit and the scores matched? It would be hard to get folks to blindly reject something unless they vote without watching the performance.

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Yeah but who really would change theirs to reject when the video they watched was legit and the scores matched? It would be hard to get folks to blindly reject something unless they vote without watching the performance.

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thats just it, the people who watched and accepted wouldnt change their vote. but then the people who see the request here may blindly reject, thereby screwing over everyone who accepted and never changed. I'll admit i've often blindly rejected when someone posted here, its the only time i've voted blind, because i figured "hey who would would ask us to reject a real submission they submitted?", now i realize though it does happen

You're right. We can only hope our members can stop that before it happens. Like if someone posts in the reject-me thread to reject a valid score, members respond by saying it's legit and don't reject. Let's hope this situation does not happen but it would makes those that blindly reject think twice before doing so.

Jace answered a question about a reject by user feature in last galaxy talk but he switched into his "ceo soundbite" and didn't actually hit the question as stated.

Submitter should be allowed to tag their own submission as a global rejection and not penalize voters, eh.

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Jace answered a question about a reject by user feature in last galaxy talk but he switched into his "ceo soundbite" and didn't actually hit the question as stated.

Submitter should be allowed to tag their own submission as a global rejection and not penalize voters, eh.

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Jace answered why a submitter cant REMOVE the submission

I answered why i dont believe they should even be able to auto reject their own submission

A compromise though, where it can be autorejected, but voters NOT penalized and the log not altered could be nice

Same type of problem in the new track marketplace. If submitter jacks something up they can't abort and it leaves garbage out there that shouldn't be turned into live tracks. Take a look right now at the clutter

I even asked my new track mess up to be removed but it's still there. There is so much clutter there and if someone doesn't read the comments they might accidentally submit points to it.

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Jace answered a question about a reject by user feature in last galaxy talk but he switched into his "ceo soundbite" and didn't actually hit the question as stated.

Submitter should be allowed to tag their own submission as a global rejection and not penalize voters, eh.

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The thing is that he misunderstood was what even being asked. The question wasn't to delete submissions but to have a way to reject them without going through the process. Having it be rejected would still keep it in the archive, mitigating the possibility of cheating.

I would honestly like to see a "no contest" option where a submitter can cancel a thread (no voting penalties) within an hour or two and have it be removed to a "no contest" subforum like the accepted and rejected ones. Allows cancelling and keeps the record.

Yes, I know people shouldn't make mistakes but when it's pretty much a guarantee someone will mess up their first submission with milliseconds I think there needs to be options in place at some point for people to move obvious typos and whatnot along and keep the queue clear.

Do y'all see how much this makes us look like neat-freaks? lol

But seriously, these ideas should benefit everybody.

Or QA analysts for a tech company, which I guess this is, playing the live video game called TGSAP.

Hey guys, I just wanted to take the time to apologize for the confusion I brought to this matter. It was unintentional on my part and didn't realize that this would bring this much chaos. All I can really do is say, and prove to others, that I will NOT bring this kind of situation to the table again.

Please reject this submission. I uploaded the video to the wrong track / variation.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

Reject please
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Andrew-Barrow

Please reject this score.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post786344

Wrong score: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...549#post786549
Wrong time: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...519#post786519

Wrong time: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...nds-Andrew-Mee

I left out the seconds for the time achieved... please reject this submission.

Reject due to being foiled by the PuckMan!
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...ark-Hoff/page2

Reject due to uploading error:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post788980

Wrong track selected - please reject this submission.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

Please reject this score, wrong track.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jared-Oswald

Please reject this submission due to entering the wrong time.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

Wrong time:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Patrick-Maher

Please reject due to wrong time:
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-95-Paul-Ford

this needs rejecting. video did not upload, so uploaded a 2nd time successfully.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post793555

I used an incorrect version of Mame to record my video submission. Please reject.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...William-McEvoy

wrong score
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post794233

I selected MultiPlayer Cooperative.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Fred-Bugmann
Sorry.

I used 1942b romset with WolfMAME0.166. I should have used 1942a romset.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...William-McEvoy

Please reject.

Please reject. I wish to re-submit once I get the original game disk I ordered off ebay (hopefully by next weekend).

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...ghlight=reject

thank you!

Wrong difficulty selected. Please reject.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...William-McEvoy

Please reject this submission - I selected the wrong track variation.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

The rules call for difficult setting of "8" on this track. I used wolfmame .149, and the max difficulty setting in wolfmame .149 is "7". It seems that at some point, the available settings changed from 1-8 to 0-7, with 8 being "HARDEST" on the former and "7" being "HARDEST" on the latter. I just got .106 and already have a better score ready to submit, with difficulty set to "8", so this issue isn't worth the fight. Please reject.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post795986

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-000-Pete-Hahn

INP doesn't playback correctly, settings don't match track requirements. DIFF folder needed to be cleared

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The rules call for difficult setting of "8" on this track. I used wolfmame .149, and the max difficulty setting in wolfmame .149 is "7". It seems that at some point, the available settings changed from 1-8 to 0-7, with 8 being "HARDEST" on the former and "7" being "HARDEST" on the latter. I just got .106 and already have a better score ready to submit, with difficulty set to "8", so this issue isn't worth the fight. Please reject.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post795986

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Please see the recent discussion at this thread. I am rescinding my request to reject this. Please vote however you personally feel is appropriate.

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Please see the recent discussion at this thread. I am rescinding my request to reject this. Please vote however you personally feel is appropriate.

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You really shouldn't do this - it puts the adjudication in a state of limbo that nobody will risk voting on. Once you commit to "reject", just allow it to be rejected then resubmit.

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You really shouldn't do this - it puts the adjudication in a state of limbo that nobody will risk voting on. Once you commit to "reject", just allow it to be rejected then resubmit.

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Well, members started openly accepting after I requested a reject (here and in the submission thread). Is there a potential that the submission will never be accepted or rejected and stay in limbo indefinitely?

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You really shouldn't do this - it puts the adjudication in a state of limbo that nobody will risk voting on. Once you commit to "reject", just allow it to be rejected then resubmit.

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I agree Don. Just resubmit it with all the package work.

-James

Please reject this submission. I uploaded the wrong video.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

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I agree Don. Just resubmit it with all the package work.

-James

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I agree this causes problems, however, the video is good. If someone submits an invalid score and requests an accept, we'll ignore their request and reject. Likewise is someone submits a valid score and requests a reject we need to ignore their request and accept.

Consider this hypothetical that isnt actually the case here. A player, lets just call him PlayerA is malicous. PlayerA submits a real score, waits for some people to accept, then requests a reject just to hurt peoples credibility and laugh about it. No i dont think this will actually happen, but you get the idea. The peole who went the extra mile, did their job and adjudicated shouldnt be punished because of people who just blindly click accept or reject.

Now lets talk about PlayerB (what basically did happen here). PlayerB submits a real score. Who knows how many people accept as not everyone leaves a comment. So many people accept, then a few incorectly reject. PlayerB adds the score to this thread. People start rejecting. Is it fair to all the correct accepters to lose credibility? No it is not. PlayerB did the best he could to correct a bad situation by admitting his mistake and rescinding the request. It would have been far better to never make the mistake in the first place, but now that the mistake was made, best we can do is admit to it, and not try to punish all the people who correctly voted accept.

Wrong Time

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Patrick-Maher

Posting to assist Rick. Wrong score submitted.
He is going to resubmit once he gets more points.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Rick-Gehlert

Wrong settings:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-900-Pete-Hahn

Please go ahead and reject. But, I'm curious if anybody knows of a version of this game that has an arcade mode and the settings that can satisfy the requirements of this track?

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...00-Chris-Gleed

Please reject this submission. I uploaded the wrong video.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Fred-Bugmann

Please reject this submission. The wrong video was uploaded to the site. I will resubmit with the correct video.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

Wrong settings.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Michael-Trier

Wrong score, made a typo.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Matthew-Felix

Please reject this submission. I uploaded the wrong video:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post800488

Please reject, wrong score submitted!

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-100-Pete-Hahn

Please reject this submission. I selected the wrong license test.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

On behalf of Mr. Rodriguez, submission to be rejected due to incorrect settings:

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...niel-Rodriguez

Thanks.

I hate to do this on such great gameplay, but sadly this submission needs to be rejected. :(

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-970-Paul-Tesi

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-89-Paul-Ford

Please reject due to wrong time being entered

please reject, i used the wrong mode

Nintendo Wii - Need For Speed: Nitro - Drag Race - Rio De Janeiro - Sugar Loaf - Fastest Race - 23.71 - john brissie

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-john-brissie

please reject, i incorrectly entered the milliseconds.

Thread: Nintendo Wii - Need For Speed: Nitro - Bronze Cup - Rio De Janeiro - Time Attack - Fastest Completion - 43.074 - john brissie

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-john-brissie

Please reject this submission - the wrong video was submitted as the evidence package

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

Please reject this submission due to incorrect time.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post803436

Please reject... late night submissions = wrong place...

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Jason-Newman

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Jason-Newman

Wrong track again; https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jason-Newman

please reject

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jesse-Porter

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post805493


reject it. for free point!

Reject me pls - https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...524#post805524

Made another boo-boo. https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Andrew-Barrow
Reject, thanks.

This is what happens when you play too much looping. Don't try this at home, kids

Please reject me. I put down 512,220 instead of 512,200. https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Jamison-Olsten

Submitted the race time.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jared-Oswald

wrong score. please reject.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...00-paul-kearns

Wrong Track.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post806560

Wrong Score.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post806573

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jesse-Porter

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brendon-Meares

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brendon-Meares

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brendon-Meares

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brendon-Meares

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brendon-Meares

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post807075

Incorrect time for milliseconds on submission. Reject please.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...073-Jon-Wilson

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Jared-Oswald

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Jared-Oswald

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jared-Oswald

wrong score
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post807243

wrong score
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...d=1#post807252

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post807233

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...190-Jon-Wilson

I forgot to put in a video.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post807494

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jesse-Porter

I'm stupid.
Simple.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post809213

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post808782

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post808876

Reject please;

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthread.php/152018-PlayStation-Ridge-Racer-Turbo-Hi-Spec-Demo-T-A-(Time-Attack)-Expert-Track-Extra-Fastest-Lap-PAL-52-311-Jason-Newman?p=809522&viewfull=1#post809522

Wrong time, please reject; https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post809710

wrong score/time, etc....
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...34-paul-kearns

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Germershausen

Funny thing about this: It was going to be my 3rd ever score post on the new adjudication system. It was loading the videos, and then gave me a message that an error occurred. It DID post my description, but no video. I will try to get a video out there somehow...

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post810541

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jesse-Porter

Please Reject! Wrong video uploaded.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jesse-Porter

Please reject as I have used the wrong difficulty level
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-150-Paul-Ford

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-21-Jacob-Hash

Please reject this if you have time. I accidentally put 21 kills instead of 20 kills. Not sure how I can resubmit? Do I just wait for this to get rejected?

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https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-21-Jacob-Hash

Please reject this if you have time. I accidentally put 21 kills instead of 20 kills. Not sure how I can resubmit? Do I just wait for this to get rejected?

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If you have enough submission points, just resubmit the score as 20 instead of 21. You don't have to wait for the submission to be rejected.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Jason-Newman

Wrong video for score.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jason-Newman

Video has disappeared :( reject please

please reject.

wrong difficulty.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-john-brissie

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-john-brissie

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brendon-Meares

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brendon-Meares

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brendon-Meares

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brendon-Meares

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brendon-Meares

Please reject these for the reason given in this link: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...439#post817439

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jason-Newman

you are welcome for the submission points haha! :)

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Please reject these for the reason given in this link: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...439#post817439

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Jason-Newman


https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Jason-Newman

you are welcome for the submission points haha! :)

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So I'm not to happy about this. I just dropped 2k credibility because by the time I read this, it already had been rejected. Its 9:16 AM and he asked us to reject it at 6:13. In 3 hours all the polls closed. Really upset about this. Who do I talk to about this?

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So I'm not to happy about this. I just dropped 2k credibility because by the time I read this, it already had been rejected. Its 9:16 AM and he asked us to reject it at 6:13. In 3 hours all the polls closed. Really upset about this. Who do I talk to about this?

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typically theres nothing you can do, this seems like a special case though. I believe Jace has told us that we can vote accept without fear of credibility loss if new data is found on modded consoles that later proves the mod is an issue. I would e-mail jace or franny

I mean, it was literally 3 hours and done. I could see a day of giving us a chance but 3 hours? It was 18 submissions I missed. Hell, some of his submissions only had 120 views so I bet alot of people got hosed. I'll email Jace or franny as you suggested.

i'm in the same boat, i had accepted some of these as well

I would agree too I never expected them to end so quickly??

I'm sorry to those who have lost credibility. I will email Jace too and request you get your CR back.

I could have swore I was more than halfway to 6000 credibility.. I don't even think I rejected any of the ps scores either. I wonder what happened.

edit: I had accepted 5 of those tracks and they are got switched to rejected while I was ASLEEP. This **** needs to be fixed please.

I took a 1000 point CR drop, and I didn't even vote on those. Sooo...I'm not quite sure why I'm affected.

Lets burn the village like they do in every Robin Hood movie! No? Just throwing it out there. But yeah this sucks, I send a message to Jace about it already so we'll see where it goes from there.

Sorry guys :crushed:

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Sorry guys :crushed:

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It's not your fault man. There is no way that that many people got on and voted reject that fast to make it a reject in 3 hours. It will get resolved I hope.

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Sorry guys :crushed:

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Kinda your fault but the timing just sucked a big one. You provided the info as soon as you found it so I'm not mad at ya. I'm sure those with high cred switched over when they saw it and one or two more voted in to seal the deal. This is my first credit loss ever so you could say I'm a bit miffed. I worked pretty hard getting back on the adjudication track just to be put back where I started during my break. Damn PAL and NTSC crap has been the bane of the adjudication lately.

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It's not your fault man. There is no way that that many people got on and voted reject that fast to make it a reject in 3 hours. It will get resolved I hope.

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Thanks for your understanding. It does make me feel pretty bad though as all you guys were trying to do was support my submission. I appreciate that you did and will work with you to hopefully get this resolved.

I will do my best to ensure this is resolved as it's really not fair on those who voted this was a very unique situation and like Snowflake said, I too recall Jace saying there would be no CR hit if information was brought forward to deem a submission invalid/against the rules so I think it will be sorted out soon.

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Kinda your fault but the timing just sucked a big one. You provided the info as soon as you found it so I'm not mad at ya. I'm sure those with high cred switched over when they saw it and one or two more voted in to seal the deal. This is my first credit loss ever so you could say I'm a bit miffed. I worked pretty hard getting back on the adjudication track just to be put back where I started during my break. Damn PAL and NTSC crap has been the bane of he adjudication lately.

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I agree and do take responsibility for it so sorry Desidious.

The big issue was the 3 hour gap I never, ever expected it to close that fast after being stuck in adjudication since January.

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Thanks for your understanding. It does make me feel pretty bad though as all you guys were trying to do was support my submission. I appreciate that you did and will work with you to hopefully get this resolved.

I will do my best to ensure this is resolved as it's really not fair on those who voted this was a very unique situation and like Snowflake said, I too recall Jace saying there would be no CR hit if information was brought forward to deem a submission invalid/against the rules so I think it will be sorted out soon.

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Don't let it get to you. The ball is in TG's court now.

This situation will continue to happen until the submitter is able to CANCEL their own submission or REMOVE it in some way to no benefit/detriment to any voters.

In most situations, a call for rejection is in order, but those situations typically revolve around a prompt identification of some disqualifying factor. Here, the submissions were six weeks old or so. This is an ideal situation where a cancellation/removal of a submission is in order. I still say if you post a score but have a typo or posted the wrong video that you can just let it get rejected and not have to cancel/remove. The ability to cancel/remove a submission is an ability that I'd like to see the original submitter have since they're already able to submit to this thread to solicit rejections.

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This situation will continue to happen until the submitter is able to CANCEL their own submission or REMOVE it in some way to no benefit/detriment to any voters.

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I second this and would love to see such a feature implemented. Perhaps the submitter still looses the 3 CR if they cancel though to avoid any wrong doings...

Let's hope TG is prompt before a huge mob is at their door. lol

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I second this and would love to see such a feature implemented. Perhaps the submitter still looses the 3 CR if they cancel though to avoid any wrong doings...

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I dunno what I would rather lose, points or credibility.

if by cancel you mean remove that can never happen as it would aid cheating. the moment a cheater realizes hes about to get caught he's could just remove the evidence. thats a no go.

I'm surprised they are not at mine already...

http://popchassid.com/wp-content/upl...0727197691.jpg

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I second this and would love to see such a feature implemented. Perhaps the submitter still looses the 3 CR if they cancel though to avoid any wrong doings...

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Agreed it's like submitting something that gets rejected or accepted - it costs 3 submission points either way. Just like founding a new track that never gets fully funded - you don't get those points back either.

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if by cancel you mean remove that can never happen as it would aid cheating. the moment a cheater realizes hes about to get caught he's could just remove the evidence. thats a no go.

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We have forum archives for ACCEPTED and REJECTED submissions. We could have a third for CANCELED or whatever it would be called. Archive everything.

I don't understand the timing thing on here. How is it some posts can sit here for months and never pass, some get submitted immediately, and others are in between. So is it total number of votes or does it go by the number of votes at the end of a time limit? I would think it would have to be a majority vote after a period of time, and if that majority percentage isn't reached, then it stays in the adjudication until enough votes are submitted to make it a reject or accept. Is there any clear policy or thread that explains exactly how the voting period is done? Because I have been trying to figure it out and I find no clear resolution to it.

I think for cancelling a submission, the adjudicators should be able to vote on a third option that says "Cancel" or along the lines of that.
The submission is still adjudicated, however, the adjudicators cancel the submission and the submission points are refunded back and the thread is sent to a "Cancelled" archive thread.

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I don't understand the timing thing on here. How is it some posts can sit here for months and never pass, some get submitted immediately, and others are in between. So is it total number of votes or does it go by the number of votes at the end of a time limit? I would think it would have to be a majority vote after a period of time, and if that majority percentage isn't reached, then it stays in the adjudication until enough votes are submitted to make it a reject or accept. Is there any clear policy or thread that explains exactly how the voting period is done? Because I have been trying to figure it out and I find no clear resolution to it.

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People with higher cred have more pull too.

Someone make a new thread so we don't take up the reject me thread. I'm about to be on the road so I wouldn't know what to put. This needs a discussion.

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I don't understand the timing thing on here. How is it some posts can sit here for months and never pass, some get submitted immediately, and others are in between. So is it total number of votes or does it go by the number of votes at the end of a time limit? I would think it would have to be a majority vote after a period of time, and if that majority percentage isn't reached, then it stays in the adjudication until enough votes are submitted to make it a reject or accept. Is there any clear policy or thread that explains exactly how the voting period is done? Because I have been trying to figure it out and I find no clear resolution to it.

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Jace said somewhere that the time and votes are secret and each adjudication is treated differently.

I think credibility may have something to do with it, meaning the higher credibility adjudicators can have a higher impact than lower credible adjudicators on the votes.

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if by cancel you mean remove that can never happen as it would aid cheating. the moment a cheater realizes hes about to get caught he's could just remove the evidence. thats a no go.

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Canceled submissions can be archived just like rejected ones so the evidence is still there. In any case there is nothing stopping anyone from just removing a video from YouTube as it is now. So cheaters can already freely remove evidence.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...le-Submissions

Here's the open link to discuss what happens when questionable submissions get accepted/rejected and if there should be any recourse or additional option in TGSAP in regards to the fallout that may occur with adjudicators' profiles.

EDIT: The primary question in the thread above is Should there be a third option, available to the adjudicators or maybe just the original submitter, that allows for a submission to be closed without any affect to the adjudicators who may have voted? The thread is about a sea change on open submissions in general but that's the driving point.

In case no one else noticed, there were three of these submissions that were actually accepted even after the submitter asked for them to be rejected. I only voted on one of these 21 (18 rejected, 3 accepted) submissions and it happens to be one that was accepted so I've taken no Cred hit yet. But I have to say something is very suspicious that all 21 of these submissions cleared all at the same time. This wouldn't be a huge deal accept it was 3 hours after new information was posted. I'm guessing there are a few people who took huge hits to their cred and if I was one of them, I'd be really mad right now. Not only should this be fixed, I'd like to hear an explanation as to how 21 submissions from the same person all cleared at exactly the same time causing massive loss of credibility for some users. This is not good.

you just decimated my cred

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In case no one else noticed, there were three of these submissions that were actually accepted even after the submitter asked for them to be rejected. I only voted on one of these 21 (18 rejected, 3 accepted) submissions and it happens to be one that was accepted so I've taken no Cred hit yet. But I have to say something is very suspicious that all 21 of these submissions cleared all at the same time. This wouldn't be a huge deal accept it was 3 hours after new information was posted. I'm guessing there are a few people who took huge hits to their cred and if I was one of them, I'd be really mad right now. Not only should this be fixed, I'd like to hear an explanation as to how 21 submissions from the same person all cleared at exactly the same time causing massive loss of credibility for some users. This is not good.

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well that IS certainly interesting, those 3 will obviously have to be changed to rejected in the end. hope it happens that way.
edit - and after looking at them of course i voted to reject those. S*it.

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you just decimated my cred

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Hi Paul. Yeah, your cred is looking like crap. How much did you lose?


john

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Wow, this is really serious.

Jace definitely needs to look to this. I was wondering why some people only had like 50 CP.

-James

Yeah guys, that was quite a blow !
I got no notifications for 4 or 5 days, then I got a single notification saying "rotunda and 24 others posted in reject me please".
All had been closed already.
John, I had a bit over 1,000. maybe 1,100 or so.
The site must have been worked on, and the information got stacked up, maybe? That is why 20 odd went through at the same time.
What am I saying? I don't have a damn clue!!! lol
:)

Please REJECT these submissions! I mistakenly had the PAL-60 setting set to "Yes". Live and learn. Apologies and thanks to Barthax for the catch!

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...9-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...9-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

lmao!
read up, Don, me old mucker. :)

I PMed Jace about this yesterday morning but haven't gotten any response regarding our Cred. Not sure who else to talk to about this. I'm getting the feeling were all boned.

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I PMed Jace about this yesterday morning but haven't gotten any response regarding our Cred. Not sure who else to talk to about this. I'm getting the feeling were all boned.

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if that's true then we'll never be able to feel safe voting on anything other than all original hardware in the future

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if that's true then we'll never be able to feel safe voting on anything other than all original hardware in the future

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To be honest, this is why I usually abstain on such things. I think the Everdrive is the only one I've felt comfortable with and only then when all settings are shown (cheats off, etc.).

Someone should question Jace about it on State of the Galaxies.

It's not really the use of an emulator, mod, everdrive, console that is the problem (I mean it is own issue all together but not the problem in this instance). It's the whole all of his submissions closed at exactly the same time, 3 hours from the new evidence even being submitted, when most of the votes where more than likely in the accept department because until the new evidence, all of his runs did have all the evidence to make them an accept. We had no chance to change our votes is the issue. And there is no way that all those people that had voted accept where on to change it to reject and it made it so.

And we don't want people just abstaining all the time either, don't get me wrong I understand why people do it, but if everybody is abstaining until we get everything iron clad, what's the point of having a beta version to test all these possible scenarios? I've noticed these last several months that a lot of submissions are taking much longer to be accepted than in the past, so I think a lot of people are already on the defense when voting. The rejects are happening very quickly but that's usually because something is pointed out and we all reject because it's easy to do so. At the other end of the spectrum, it seems like people aren't voting because were waiting for someone to say it's not valid or were actually afraid of losing cred. I don't know, maybe I'm over looking it a little, but not much.

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And we don't want people just abstaining all the time either, ... but if everybody is abstaining until we get everything iron clad, what's the point of having a beta version to test all these possible scenarios?

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In my opinion as a very conservative voter, I would say that it's working (mostly) just fine. I WANT all of TG's records to be iron clad. A scoreboard is only as good as he veracity of it's records. For those submissions that dwell in the dungeon due to lack of activity - in my opinion those gamers should ask for rejects and resubmit with better evidence. (Unless there is some other cause for inactivity, of course.) Again, I recognize that I'm a hard case in this regard.

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In my opinion as a very conservative voter, I would say that it's working (mostly) just fine. I WANT all of TG's records to be iron clad. A scoreboard is only as good as he veracity of it's records. For those submissions that dwell in the dungeon due to lack of activity - in my opinion those gamers should ask for rejects and resubmit with better evidence. (Unless there is some other cause for inactivity, of course.) Again, I recognize that I'm a hard case in this regard.

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It's all good man. Really I have no objection to abstaining for whatever reason. That's what is happening though is people aren't voting on all of a certain type and the evidence is there. I'm just curious as to why I guess.

My problem is I never voted for these and I still lost 1K CR. WTF?

No, you are not overlooking anything. You are perfectly correct, as that is how I now look upon this.
Right now, I don't care about credibility. What does it tell us? It tells us that someone has voted a lot or not.
So someone who has not voted at all has "more credibility" than someone on this thread who has been scammed by a glitch.
It means nothing in the gaming leagues, and should be named "voting credibility".
Humans are a very easily led and programmable species. We are greedy for points and high scores, so credibilty is just another "league table" for people to shoot for.
Right now, I'm going for the "Lowest credibility rating" record. I'm doing well!!
WOOHOO !!

So has anybody gotten any responses from TG or Jace regarding the cred issue that occurred? I haven't gotten any reply as of yet.

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So has anybody gotten any responses from TG or Jace regarding the cred issue that occurred? I haven't gotten any reply as of yet.

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I'm assuming the worst and just going to work on rebuilding. I'm making some easy submission for folks to get easy cred on as well. Probably more Gods Eater scores in the near future.

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So has anybody gotten any responses from TG or Jace regarding the cred issue that occurred? I haven't gotten any reply as of yet.

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He said last night he heard/knew about it and would be looking into what exactly happened.

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So has anybody gotten any responses from TG or Jace regarding the cred issue that occurred? I haven't gotten any reply as of yet.

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We are looking into this matter.

What has taken place is not the result of a software bug. The system has functioned as specified.

However the situation that took place is the result of an emergent condition that the design did not fully contemplate.

We have read some of the community suggestions, and are looking into solutions.

In the meanwhile we will look into this specific occurrence and negate what has transpired.

Hey TG, Thanks for looking into this & sorry for the mess. I had no idea this would occur.

I'd also like to point out again as others have here that some of those submissions were accepted some how and are now on my records. I will be doing my NTSC runs again with faster times on proper hardware next week (providing my NTSC console arrives from the US) so these will be knocked out anyway soon but to keep the accepted submissions forum/database clean perhaps these should be removed?

Jace is definitely aware of it: https://youtu.be/37SzEOw33iU?t=58m24s

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We are looking into this matter.

What has taken place is not the result of a software bug. The system has functioned as specified.

However the situation that took place is the result of an emergent condition that the design did not fully contemplate.

We have read some of the community suggestions, and are looking into solutions.

In the meanwhile we will look into this specific occurrence and negate what has transpired.

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Thank you very much for looking into this.

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We are looking into this matter.

What has taken place is not the result of a software bug. The system has functioned as specified.

However the situation that took place is the result of an emergent condition that the design did not fully contemplate.

We have read some of the community suggestions, and are looking into solutions.

In the meanwhile we will look into this specific occurrence and negate what has transpired.

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Youre saying this is an emergent condition as if it's novel. This exact thing has happened before and no one was given back their credibility.

Seems like I got my points and cred back. Just letting people know to check their stuff.

Still 1000 short. I'll wait a little while and see what happens.

all is well!!

So another complaint since it just happened. Why are people requesting submitted videos that are acceptable asking to reject them because they have submitted a better run? Just took a CR ding on a perfectly acceptable track that I accepted early on in it's submission to find out it was rejected because they had a better run. Now we have to worry about people wanting slower runs rejected? Come on people, your making this way to complicated. If you submit a run that is better, it will just replace your slower run that is acceptable. So why ask for it to be rejected. Just another reason for people to be hesitant on voting.

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So another complaint since it just happened. Why are people requesting submitted videos that are acceptable asking to reject them because they have submitted a better run? Just took a CR ding on a perfectly acceptable track that I accepted early on in it's submission to find out it was rejected because they had a better run. Now we have to worry about people wanting slower runs rejected? Come on people, your making this way to complicated. If you submit a run that is better, it will just replace your slower run that is acceptable. So why ask for it to be rejected. Just another reason for people to be hesitant on voting.

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I agree with this and we even have people (person) submitting valid evidence multiple times and asking for rejections arbitrarily.

I just submitted a token run on a new Wolfenstein contest platform track. I just recorded more performances and if I had one I wanted to submit, I'd submit it too and both should be accepted. The only reason a submission should be rejected is if it's invalid for some reason. The whim of the original submitter should NOT dictate if something gets rejected or accepted.

Kyle I'm sorry to hear you took another hit to the CR, this time for no reason at all (at least the Ridge Racer ones were invalidated by further evidence)

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So another complaint since it just happened. Why are people requesting submitted videos that are acceptable asking to reject them because they have submitted a better run? Just took a CR ding on a perfectly acceptable track that I accepted early on in it's submission to find out it was rejected because they had a better run. Now we have to worry about people wanting slower runs rejected? Come on people, your making this way to complicated. If you submit a run that is better, it will just replace your slower run that is acceptable. So why ask for it to be rejected. Just another reason for people to be hesitant on voting.

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people shouldnt be doing this. This isnt jace or the systems fault, this is the fault of the submitter. If a submitter asks someone to vote wrong, and they do, thats not the systems fault. Whenever i reject, even if the submitter requests, I first make sure it really is a problem. It is possible though that newer members are worried that a lower score may go through last, the better score go through first, and the worst score overwriting the better one. This wont happen, and if it does, its a bug should be adressed by contacting TG. I would try by educating people that they shouldnt try to get real submissions rejected, if they continue in their behavior, i'd probably abstain on all their submissions.

I know it. I'm not going to be on here at all the next 7 months because I'll working. So I vote on pretty much every video submitted. It's awesome watching all the runs, I mean I'm witnessing probably 20 WR a day and that is awesome to me, but now I'm getting dinged on acceptable evidence packages because runs are better? There's no logic at all behind it. Just frustrating as hell.

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people shouldnt be doing this. This isnt jace or the systems fault, this is the fault of the submitter. If a submitter asks someone to vote wrong, and they do, thats not the systems fault. Whenever i reject, even if the submitter requests, I first make sure it really is a problem. It is possible though that newer members are worried that a lower score may go through last, the better score go through first, and the worst score overwriting the better one. This wont happen, and if it does, its a bug should be adressed by contacting TG. I would try by educating people that they shouldnt try to get real submissions rejected, if they continue in their behavior, i'd probably abstain on all their submissions.

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I know it snowy, that's my issue now. Now I have to watch for specific submitters instead of the evidence package. I really don't want to spam every single submission just so I can be alerted to a requested reject, but that's the only full prove way to protect myself from it happening. I bet I've seen at 4 H1Z1 submissions ask for this very thing to happen and there's no reason for it. Lucky for me I saw them AFTER they asked for it be requested. But since I'm here about 7 hours a day just because I got nothing better to do, I'm usually voting on submissions as soon as they appear. I know somebody is just going to say "well then just wait a few days before you vote", which is valid, but my response would be I shouldn't friggin have to wait if it's acceptable. OK, I've vented enough about this situation.

So please everyone, don't ask to have a submission rejected unless you screwed up. Your higher scores will always replace your lower ones, so if the evidence package is good, just let it go through. Thanks for listening to the ***** fest.

Did everyone get their numbers back? Am I the only one that didn't?

I got mine....

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I know it snowy, that's my issue now. Now I have to watch for specific submitters instead of the evidence package. I really don't want to spam every single submission just so I can be alerted to a requested reject, but that's the only full prove way to protect myself from it happening. I bet I've seen at 4 H1Z1 submissions ask for this very thing to happen and there's no reason for it. Lucky for me I saw them AFTER they asked for it be requested. But since I'm here about 7 hours a day just because I got nothing better to do, I'm usually voting on submissions as soon as they appear. I know somebody is just going to say "well then just wait a few days before you vote", which is valid, but my response would be I shouldn't friggin have to wait if it's acceptable. OK, I've vented enough about this situation.

So please everyone, don't ask to have a submission rejected unless you screwed up. Your higher scores will always replace your lower ones, so if the evidence package is good, just let it go through. Thanks for listening to the ***** fest.

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It's harder than it should be but there is a way to subscribe to a thread so that when new information pops up, you'll be notified. I figured out how to do it once but it was enough of a hassle that I've not done it again.

Suggestion to TG - I know you have a crapload on your plate already but an option to be automatically subscribed to every thread that I've made a vote would be really appreciated.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...d=1#post818587

no boot up sequence.
what a bar steward.... :D

I seem to be the only one but I'm still really suspicious about how all this Ridge Racer stuff went down. There were 21 outstanding submissions that I'm guessing were really close to getting accepted as there were no reasons and no one voicing anything about a rejection. I'm guessing there were a lot more yes votes than no. The submitter requests rejection and in less than 3 hours 18 were rejected and 3 were accepted. How in the world did enough reject votes get recorded to get all 18 of these rejected at the exact same time? Why were 3 accepted at this very same time? TG's response so far has been "this is the way the system is supposed to work". Really? I call BS and I have lost trust because of this. We've been told that each submission is treated separate and needs a different amount of yes or no votes to get accepted/rejected. At no other time has 21 submissions all cleared at the same time and that's ignoring the fact that all 21 were by the same person. And where did these 21 submissions go? The last time I looked they were neither in the accepted or rejected threads and they aren't out there to vote on. I'm not big on conspiracy theories but a mistake was made and I'm not buying that this is the way things are supposed to happen.

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I seem to be the only one but I'm still really suspicious about how all this Ridge Racer stuff went down. There were 21 outstanding submissions that I'm guessing were really close to getting accepted as there were no reasons and no one voicing anything about a rejection. I'm guessing there were a lot more yes votes than no. The submitter requests rejection and in less than 3 hours 18 were rejected and 3 were accepted. How in the world did enough reject votes get recorded to get all 18 of these rejected at the exact same time? Why were 3 accepted at this very same time? TG's response so far has been "this is the way the system is supposed to work". Really? I call BS and I have lost trust because of this. We've been told that each submission is treated separate and needs a different amount of yes or no votes to get accepted/rejected. At no other time has 21 submissions all cleared at the same time and that's ignoring the fact that all 21 were by the same person. And where did these 21 submissions go? The last time I looked they were neither in the accepted or rejected threads and they aren't out there to vote on. I'm not big on conspiracy theories but a mistake was made and I'm not buying that this is the way things are supposed to happen.

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My problem is I lost out on 1000 CR and I didn't vote on ANY of them. So I may as well have lost the CR just by looking at the threads. I agree that something isn't right.

I agree, but I am BIG on conspiracies, lol. :D
There must have been a glitch or some event that took place, otherwise we would not have noticed, nor talk about it in retrospect.
The fact that we have been reimbursed tells me there was a problem. If this was the way the system was supposed to work, I would have about 20 credibility points right now. I'm glad I don't!
No computer system is concrete. A surge or power cut will ***** stuff up, but then again, I know nothing about it, lol.

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And where did these 21 submissions go? The last time I looked they were neither in the accepted or rejected threads and they aren't out there to vote on.

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I saw TWO NTSC tracks that were submitted and rejected, and the first one was rejected due to incorrect time submitted (not the big reason that the lot of them got rejected). So there's only ONE of the rejected submissions in the archive. Now I'm paying closer attention. Maybe the only way there could have been a refund is if those submissions were reversed/removed from the system.

I think they were removed....
And I've lost 80 cred points since last night, lol.


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My problem is I lost out on 1000 CR and I didn't vote on ANY of them. So I may as well have lost the CR just by looking at the threads. I agree that something isn't right.

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Your 1000 CR issue was completely unrelated to the rejection thread and has been rectified. It related to the initial 1000 CR that everyone starts with when they get verified.

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Your 1000 CR issue was completely unrelated to the rejection thread and has been rectified. It related to the initial 1000 CR that everyone starts with when they get verified.

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Cool. Thank you very much Jace!

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I seem to be the only one but I'm still really suspicious about how all this Ridge Racer stuff went down. There were 21 outstanding submissions that I'm guessing were really close to getting accepted as there were no reasons and no one voicing anything about a rejection. I'm guessing there were a lot more yes votes than no. The submitter requests rejection and in less than 3 hours 18 were rejected and 3 were accepted. How in the world did enough reject votes get recorded to get all 18 of these rejected at the exact same time? Why were 3 accepted at this very same time? TG's response so far has been "this is the way the system is supposed to work". Really? I call BS and I have lost trust because of this. We've been told that each submission is treated separate and needs a different amount of yes or no votes to get accepted/rejected. At no other time has 21 submissions all cleared at the same time and that's ignoring the fact that all 21 were by the same person. And where did these 21 submissions go? The last time I looked they were neither in the accepted or rejected threads and they aren't out there to vote on. I'm not big on conspiracy theories but a mistake was made and I'm not buying that this is the way things are supposed to happen.

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To completely reverse the effect of the submissions on the userbase, all of the submissions were removed.

Please, for the love of God, stop asking to reject videos that are acceptable. Dropped 400 points today on 2 acceptable runs. This is ridiculous.

Anybody else losing credibility for rejected tracks that you didn't even vote on? I've lot another 400pts and the only 3 recently rejected archived tracks I voted reject on 1 but didn't vote the others. Still lost cred. Anybody having this happen?

Interesting fact about them though. I did have them voted as accepted before abstaining and changing to not voting. Maybe there is a bug that shows you have unvoted, but the system still has you locked in as whatever your vote was. Just a thought but it would be accurate at the moment for losing cred on a removed vote.

It would also e plain why desidious lost credibility with some of the cruising tracks as well. Desidious, did you vote accept on them then remove it? Further more, it also explains why TG had to completely remove the archived tracks entirely just refund our CR.

I got my credibility back, 1,100, seems perfect. then I lost 80 credibility immediately. thoiught I had no votes in contention. but what do I know?? :)

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It would also e plain why desidious lost credibility with some of the cruising tracks as well. Desidious, did you vote accept on them then remove it? Further more, it also explains why TG had to completely remove the archived tracks entirely just refund our CR.

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I only accepted a couple of the RR tracks I watched and wasn't all of them by far.

please reject these submissions,
I misnamed my video's and entered the wrong time.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Roald-Podevyn
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Roald-Podevyn

Submitted to wrong track, please reject

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...d=1#post819268

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...d=1#post819267

Please Reject!

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

Incorrect Bonus Life settings
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Terence-Wong

Reminder: Lots of free submission points to be had here!

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Please REJECT these submissions! I mistakenly had the PAL-60 setting set to "Yes". Live and learn. Apologies and thanks to Barthax for the catch!

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...2-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...9-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...6-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...7-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...3-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...5-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...9-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...1-Don-Atreides

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Don-Atreides

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Christmas gunna come early this year! So kind of you Don. ;)

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Christmas gunna come early this year! So kind of you Don. ;)

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Except every one of these is closed so they can't be voted on.

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Except every one of these is closed so they can't be voted on.

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According to the shoutbox they only completed in the past couple of hours - just unfortunate timing.

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Except every one of these is closed so they can't be voted on.

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Yeah, sorry. They must have just closed recently.

Finally I can submit their replacements! :)

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Christmas gunna come early this year! So kind of you Don. ;)

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Yeah, thanks Don. Thanks to you, I just made up the 100 cred points that I lost on voting Accept on Don Hayes Dig Dug submission!

john
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Yeah, thanks Don. Thanks to you, I just made up the 100 cred points that I lost on voting Accept on Don Hayes Dig Dug submission!

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Lexmark, you are one funny dude. :D

It looks like the direct capture video froze during my recording. Sound is accurate but frames must have dropped. I'll just record another video and submit rather than debate whether there is sufficient evidence.

Please DO NOT ACCEPT this submission. https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-Shaun-Michaud

Reject please. I used the wrong romset.

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...d=1#post821891

I didn't show settings. Reject this: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brandon-Finton

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post822957

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l=1#post822742

Please reject this score the following record attempt, wrong score.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-Jared-Oswald

romset is correct, but TG is wrong, lol.
Please reject. :(

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...00-paul-kearns

Please reject this as I never posted under EMU.
Thank you
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...lay-Karczewski

Please reject as I selected the wrong track: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-03-Paul-Ford

I submitted another one with the correction.

Reject: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...Brandon-Finton

Wrong level.
https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...8-Jared-Oswald

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...l-kearns#post0

Please reject, wrong difficulty setting.https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jeff-Mikuska

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...njamin-Sweeney

Wrong course selected for fastest lap submission. Should have been Ghost Valley 1 not 2. Correct track has been submitted now as well FYI.

Please reject wrong score: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...-620-Paul-Ford

https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...0-Jesse-Porter

I am considering closing this thread.

Now that the new "Cancel" feature is in place, there is no need for it.

Can anyone see a compelling reason to keep this thread open?

Only if you keep the "top rejecters" table going!

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Only if you keep the "top rejecters" table going!

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Thats number of their own submissions they've had rejected.

I can still win, then ! ;)

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Yeah. I like to get the easy cred points:encouragement:

john

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I am considering closing this thread.

Now that the new "Cancel" feature is in place, there is no need for it.

Can anyone see a compelling reason to keep this thread open?

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I think it should be closed, there is no real need for it anymore and may confuse people in the long run, reject me vs cancel sort of thing...

Keep it simple in my opinion.

edit: Lexmark, I think that was one of the reasons Jace wanted to close this thread. He mentioned it on State of the Galaxies.

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edit: Lexmark, I think that was one of the reasons Jace wanted to close this thread. He mentioned it on State of the Galaxies.

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That's ok. There are other ways of getting easy cred points:glee: :applause:


john

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another chapter of TG history closed.