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04-19-2019 at 09:43 AM
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Cred Hit

Hello All.
I took a hit to my cred and trying to figure out why exactly what happened. Is there anything I can do about it? seems a little out of my control

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  1. Joonas's Avatar

    Has happened a lot with people cancelling subs and resulting in cred lost to others. Try to inform @admin staff about this. They might also correct it automatically at some point.

  2. Snowflake's Avatar

    ***** and moan count on franny to save the day wait fir programmer to **** something else up. Continue to repeat this infinite loop until you give up

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  3. Barthax's Avatar

    Down side: all Cancelled submissions result in a Reject result. This requires all Yes voters to change their (removal is the only option) for a Cancelled submission. In turn this requires all Yes voters to keep an eye on the Cancel forum and change their votes.

    Up side: nobody can cancel submissions any more. Take one last look through the Cancel submission forum & remove all your Yes votes. :) https://www.twingalaxies.com/forumdisplay.php/463-Canceled

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  4. Marco1019's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax

    Down side: all Cancelled submissions result in a Reject result. This requires all Yes voters to change their (removal is the only option) for a Cancelled submission. In turn this requires all Yes voters to keep an eye on the Cancel forum and change their votes.

    Up side: nobody can cancel submissions any more. Take one last look through the Cancel submission forum & remove all your Yes votes. :) https://www.twingalaxies.com/forumdisplay.php/463-Canceled

    I was penalized on at least 3 occasions due to having never received any notifications of Cancelled submissions. (It could be as many as 6; I can't confirm because I was away for about 6 months back in 2018.)

  5. Snowflake's Avatar

    [QUOTE=Marco1019;bt41803]


    I was penalized on at least 3 occasions due to having never received any notifications of Cancelled submissions. (It could be as many as 6; I can't confirm because I was away for about 6 months back in 2018.)

    [/QUOTE]

    Pssst.... notifications is programmings job. I volunteered time and effort for free to save programmimgs sorry ass and all it does is make them think it’s ok to rely on us further. Done. I want tg to heal but it won’t until we demand programming be held accountable

  6. RTM's Avatar

    I'm glad that this new policy was implemented...Dave told me many months back that something was in the works to address this situation.

    I argued early on with Jace about how the TG policy at the time was unfair to "passive" TG participants but his stance was that it was designed so that people would become more active, something not everyone was able to do in terms of their real life schedule.

    Too bad this was not implemented years earlier...I'm guessing that dozens if not over a hundred gamers suffered such cred hits, some far worse than others, due to cancelled submissions. For me, I lost a good chunk due to 2 or 3 cancelled "H1Z1" submissions back when that title was all the rage and lost a lot of work towards reaching a 4000 cred rating.

    Since then...and this goes towards another active wall post that John M started addressing the queue backlog, I stopped voting on just any performance and instead focused on known gamers or titles that I was extremely familiar with to minimize further chances of cred hits due to cancelled submissions.

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  7. The Evener's Avatar

    Where's the announcement of the new policy? Sorry I must have missed the wall post. I'm curious - is the ability to cancel a submission removed entirely, so if I upload a submission where I mess up the point total, then the remaining option is just to have said submission voted "No"?

    I cared more about cred totals when there were still tribunals, but with that removed, there's less of a "goal" per se beyond adjudicating when I can.

  8. Snowflake's Avatar

    I don’t recall any official announced but that’s not to say there wasn’t one. Who knows if it’s a bug that’s corrected as I type it. But yes last time I checked I could not cancel and any mistake would require requesting rejecting


    Further subs that were previously canceled became uncanceled and at least one went through

  9. RTM's Avatar

    [QUOTE=The Evener;bt41843]I cared more about cred totals when there were still tribunals, but with that removed, there's less of a "goal" per se beyond adjudicating when I can.[/QUOTE]




    RTM REPLY - Wow, I must have totally missed that...no more "tribunal" ?

    I remember a very early discussion with Jace when the matter of "credibility" was discussed. I seem to recall that he believed a higher credibility rating might be taken into consideration by our peers in terms of viewing and responding to our forum posts and replies, kind of a by-product of being diligent and accurate with respect to adjudication. Whether that has developed as such since then is a different matter.

    But if there is no tribunal AND if no one really takes cred into consideration on the forum, then it's just a running accumulator serving no secondary purpose....no current one, anyway.

  10. Snowflake's Avatar

    [QUOTE=RTM;bt41867]





    RTM REPLY - Wow, I must have totally missed that...no more "tribunal" ?

    I remember a very early discussion with Jace when the matter of "credibility" was discussed. I seem to recall that he believed a higher credibility rating might be taken into consideration by our peers in terms of viewing and responding to our forum posts and replies, kind of a by-product of being diligent and accurate with respect to adjudication. Whether that has developed as such since then is a different matter.

    But if there is no tribunal AND if no one really takes cred into consideration on the forum, then it's just a running accumulator serving no secondary purpose....no current one, anyway.

    [/QUOTE]


    this isnt entirely accurate, i'l just give the super long answer, not gonna censor my speculation, but i'll at least admit what i cant 100% prove

    credibilty always did, and still does more than tribunals. you get as many votes in adjudciatoin as you have cred. so a new member gets 1000 votes, i get 14,000. i other words, if i vote one way and 13 new members vote differently, i win. if 15 new members vote differntly they win. and yes, its also used as an e-penis (fine i'm speculating motives) that people compete on

    the tribunal (speculation based on pretty obvious stuff) was created to ban rudy but not have tg take the blame. numerous other tribunals were made, and numerous times criticized by jace, only for him to finally alow it. even a tribunal against a pedophile was shut down -- thats right, banning rudy is fine, but banning a pedophile went to far. that led to a huge outcry and tg adoped facebook style rules that sex offenders cannot use tg.

    the tribunal was heavily cluttered and trolled by rudy's friend kyrsti. a new rule was added that you must have 2000 cred to participate. (speculation) i have little doubt the cred rule on tribunals was created to remove krysti, she herself and others share that belief. i believe it was the right call though :)

    as tribunal after tribunal was interfered with, enough of us got sick of that sham bieng used to silence rudy while allowing others, so we refused to do jace's dirty work for him.if he wanted to silence rudy he'd have to do it himself. and he eventually did. at that point, since we wouldnt silence rudy for him, the tribunal itself was completely eliminated and replaced with moderation. the moderation doesnt have the clear rules of others sites, it falls more under "you should know whats acceptable"

    credibility still has one other use though. you need 4000 cred to launch a dispute. however, it is not considered abusive or collusion for someone with 4000+ cred to launch a dispute on behalf of someone else. the idea is that you dont want new accounts just challenging everything. by going through a more senior member it helps guarantee the challenge/dispute area stays under control. Rudy himself declared he was going to challenge every single psp score for example. you cant allow that.

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  11. Blackflag82's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

    its also used as an e-penis

    oops...posted the wrong clip the first time


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    Updated 04-22-2019 at 10:01 AM by Blackflag82
  12. SincerelyFranny's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by The Evener

    Where's the announcement of the new policy? Sorry I must have missed the wall post. I'm curious - is the ability to cancel a submission removed entirely, so if I upload a submission where I mess up the point total, then the remaining option is just to have said submission voted "No"?

    I cared more about cred totals when there were still tribunals, but with that removed, there's less of a "goal" per se beyond adjudicating when I can.

    This was a temporary removal of the cancellation button. It will be coming back shortly with a revamped functionality that we feel will please the community. Stay tuned for updates on this. It should not be long.
  13. The Evener's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by RTM

    RTM REPLY - Wow, I must have totally missed that...no more "tribunal" ?

    I remember a very early discussion with Jace when the matter of "credibility" was discussed. I seem to recall that he believed a higher credibility rating might be taken into consideration by our peers in terms of viewing and responding to our forum posts and replies, kind of a by-product of being diligent and accurate with respect to adjudication. Whether that has developed as such since then is a different matter.

    But if there is no tribunal AND if no one really takes cred into consideration on the forum, then it's just a running accumulator serving no secondary purpose....no current one, anyway.

    @RTM, After a little hunting via Google, I found the announcement, which was contained in an omnibus wall post from Jace:

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/jace-hall/wall/3090/tribunals-ads-editorial-and-the-rise-of-the-heavy-hand


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