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03-07-2018 at 12:35 PM
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Question about Policy on Imported Games

Hi, if anyone could be so helpful as to link to a page or mention what the policy is on submitting for a game using an import version. Being specific, I am planning on using Famicom games using a converter to play on my original NES.

Cause boy, I won't be paying $100+ for a NES cart only of Bomberman II when a Famicom copy goes for $25 CIB. I know PAL games display/play at a different rate or such but I don't remember any technical differences between US & Japan games aside from regional differences. Thanks in advance
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  1. Barthax's Avatar
    You mention using the converter. I don't believe that has ever been accepted.

    Famicom games played on the Famicom are acceptable, obviously but even then NES/Famicom is still a world of pain in this area. For example, NES or Famicom Ice Climber can be used for the Ice Climber tracks but there are plenty of games where Famicom needs to be tracked separately due to differences in game play.
  2. sdwyer138's Avatar
    There is a submission out there right now where a Game Genie is being used to play a JP Genesis game on a US system.

    I will also echo Barthax's concern. Gotta be positive the game play is 100% the same, otherwise a new track would be required.
  3. HAN's Avatar
    I'd say go ahead and submit it if you believe the game is the same - that's probably the only way to find out what the community really thinks about any of these instances which should be addressed in a wiki or the Global Rules and Guidelines are updated.

    If it gets accepted, it can be disputed if differences are found later.
  4. Retro-Shark's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax
    You mention using the converter. I don't believe that has ever been accepted.
    Not sure if it matters but I did get the wording wrong. I was thinking of getting this adapter - https://www.amazon.com/Hyperkin-Adap.../dp/B076CBJ3GP
    Is there a page or an example you remember of why this adapter is probably not acceptable? Also, from what I'm gathering there is no overall concrete policy for Famicom usage. It's more of a game by game basis.
  5. Barthax's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Retro-Shark
    Not sure if it matters but I did get the wording wrong. I was thinking of getting this adapter - https://www.amazon.com/Hyperkin-Adap.../dp/B076CBJ3GP
    Is there a page or an example you remember of why this adapter is probably not acceptable? Also, from what I'm gathering there is no overall concrete policy for Famicom usage. It's more of a game by game basis.
    Historically (pre-2014), the Famicom wasn't supported at all for any submission (it was incredibly rare to get anything Japanese into the scoreboard). It is only with the new-era that Famicom is being "tested out" in submissions: which is why there's no overall concrete policy. The base policy (as outlined in the Help page) is original console with original carts, etc. Famicom games are not original NES games - regardless of how close the two are under the hood.

    If such an adapter has been used, then I'm not aware of it but then it's also certainly possible it has been & I've not noticed too. :) Overall, there's no single individual here that would make such a decision - it would be a case of submitting using it & arguing for its use. That's how the Ice Climber situation came about. ;)
  6. Barthax's Avatar
    In terms of not buying expensive versions: that's the popularity of the Everdrive carts. :D
  7. Retro-Shark's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax
    In terms of not buying expensive versions: that's the popularity of the Everdrive carts. :D
    Well I guess I'll just have to try it out then, do the research on the 2 versions of the game I want to submit for and hope for the best. Even though in my opinion Everdrives

    1. Worry me that they will end up wrecking my NES like flash carts.
    2. Seem more suspicious to me than the adapter
    But thanks for the insight.
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  8. Barthax's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Retro-Shark
    Well I guess I'll just have to try it out then, do the research on the 2 versions of the game I want to submit for and hope for the best. Even though in my opinion Everdrives

    1. Worry me that they will end up wrecking my NES like flash carts.
    2. Seem more suspicious to me than the adapter
    But thanks for the insight.
    The thought process behind the Everdrive is that it is playing an original ROM on the original cart... it just isn't housed in the original Cartridge. The fact you'll be using an Everdrive will be very obvious from the footage (it's boot menu, for example) and that aids scrutiny: people are more likely to question anything weird in the game play than if you'd presented a "genuine" cart (reproduction carts are rife and may not contain the original ROM).
  9. Retro-Shark's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax
    The thought process behind the Everdrive is that it is playing an original ROM on the original cart... it just isn't housed in the original Cartridge. The fact you'll be using an Everdrive will be very obvious from the footage (it's boot menu, for example) and that aids scrutiny: people are more likely to question anything weird in the game play than if you'd presented a "genuine" cart (reproduction carts are rife and may not contain the original ROM).
    Yeah but funnily enough I am also worried of reproduction carts as I am not familiar with how they work and if they cause same negative effects as flash or everdrive carts. So I wouldn't have repros in my collection either.
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