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12-26-2019 at 01:28 PM
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In the Wake of the "Big Purge"

The arguments have been made, the decisions have been made, the scores are now gone.

Something for interested parties to consider but this would take a LOT of time and effort to thoroughly investigate.

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I saw something interesting on a recent column bu renowned uber-genius Marilyn Vos Savant...

When being pressed for information (i.e. interrogation, questioning) where our eyes have a tendency to drift when answering reveals which part of the brain we are accessing at that moment.

We look to the left when recalling memories of what actually happened, and we look to the right when accessing our "creative side" (i.e. concocting lies, embellishing, etc).

The above is for right-handed people and is the opposite for left-handed people as their brain regions are reversed.

No idea how this applies to ambidextrous people, however...or for pathological liars.

Still...would be really something to find an interview where this info could be put to the test. Just a matter of knowing whether someone is right-handed, left-handed or other, that's all. And assuming that the film has not been "reversed" (i.e. shown in mirror image format)

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  1. Fly's Avatar

    My eyes just wander around and I rarely make eye contact. I have serious issues making eye contact. It's so overwhelming. I fidget constantly. One on one or small group discussion is hard but I can talk to a crowd of hundreds or thousands no problem. I've been told that all if this would make me look like a liar if someone was to investigate me for anything. So am I always spewing BS? Only I would know.

    Hec

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  2. RaGe's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Fly

    My eyes just wander around and I rarely make eye contact. I have serious issues making eye contact. It's so overwhelming. I fidget constantly. One on one or small group discussion is hard but I can talk to a crowd of hundreds or thousands no problem. I've been told that all if this would make me look like a liar if someone was to investigate me for anything. So am I always spewing BS? Only I would know.

    Hec




    carry on.



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  3. Snowflake's Avatar

    i heard the eye thing before, however i dont believe the brain is reversed for left handed people (however it could be reversed for mirror twins -- some identical twins are true mirror images, that is to say one is left handed the other right handed). thats why left handed people tend to be more creativeand you find a disprooportionaate amount of left handed artists. note that even some fields we dont thijk of as "creative" or "artistic" actually are. engineers -- unlike technicians who are truly technical left brain work -- have to creatively solve new problems and you'll find a few more leftie engineers than you might otherwise expect. also politicians have disproprotionatie lefties. i remember telling people in 2007 "i'm looking forward to our left handed president" - because both obama and mccain were left handed. of course, that might go with politicians needed to creatively lie ;)

  4. Snowflake's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Fly

    My eyes just wander around and I rarely make eye contact. I have serious issues making eye contact. It's so overwhelming. I fidget constantly. One on one or small group discussion is hard but I can talk to a crowd of hundreds or thousands no problem. I've been told that all if this would make me look like a liar if someone was to investigate me for anything. So am I always spewing BS? Only I would know.

    Hec


    sounds to me then like you should just lie to people by telling them the truth!

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    There is a lot more to left-vs-right brain hemispheres than you realize. I started but have not worked on it for some time a lengthy article on right-vs-left handed gaming in terms of both the gamer and the controls.

    Rather than to go deep into the known-vs-unsubstantiated here's a sample to dwell upon - https://www.rightleftrightwrong.com/brain.html

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bring-science-home-dominant-side/

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  6. Rogerpoco's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by RTM

    There is a lot more to left-vs-right brain hemispheres than you realize. I started but have not worked on it for some time a lengthy article on right-vs-left handed gaming in terms of both the gamer and the controls.

    Rather than to go deep into the known-vs-unsubstantiated here's a sample to dwell upon - https://www.rightleftrightwrong.com/brain.html

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bring-science-home-dominant-side/


    I'm about as ambi as one can be-I am "Left Handed", in terms of writing, and daily tasks, and a "Proud Lefty".

    However, I play guitar right handed, and tho I am not "amazing", I am completely competent.


    I've believed for a long time that inadvertently "forcing" right handed skills, through music, has a lot to do with my gaming abilities/versatility on different controllers.


    Lol, it's also, I guess, why I "can't lie"-I don't know which half of my brain to automatically go to, to recall the lie so I wind up confused and don't bother...

    :D

  7. RTM's Avatar

    Most people don't know this but there are different cases of "handedness" than just right/left/ambi.

    When I was researching my left/right gaming article I cam across two others. I discussed my prelim findings with Phil Day.

    One additional classification has to do with people who, though ambidextrous, have a natural inclination towards using one hand for certain tasks and the other hand for the rest. Another which was rarer were those people who had extreme difficulties making up their minds which hand to use for what task.

    I think the former is an actual classification of "handedness" while the latter is a psychological issue. There might have been a true fifth classification that I encountered in my research as I got really deep into it going so far as to reading up on the genetics of the allels of the brain, all discussed with Phil who I was going to collaborate on the project with but admittedly discontinued focus on it for more than the past year due to work related issues dominating my free time.

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  8. Snowflake's Avatar

    at this point people probably noticed how defiant i am. alot of things called dna i scoff at the way i scoff at the way people use to blame everything on the stars they were born under. more is a choice and will power than i think people will agree to, and when you prove its a choice you're just called a liar,

    examples:
    my family members could roll their tongue, i couldnt and was told it was genetic. i would ask others to teach me and they told me it couldn be taught and wouldnt even try. then in college is met someone eveyr bit as defiant as myself who could roll his tongue and taught me how to do so in under an hour. upon learning how i told my parents who always refused to teach me saying it cant be taught. their respone was, i obvioulsy had the ability all along and just didnt know it. da ****? thats what teaching is. oh gee, i guess my hands have the abilty to know karate i just dont know it. of course my body was capable, but i was told it couldnt even be taught when obvioulsy it could in fact be taught, at least to me

    left/right handed. i was right handed ages 5-18. i chose to use my left hand for the same defiance. again "you cant just choose to beleft handded". then i remembered something --i alwasy sucked my left thumb, whereas my right handed brother and sister sucked their left. get this logic "your right handed brother and sister sucked their right thumb cause they're right handed, you however sucked your left thumb cause you're right handed and wanted your left hand free' -- so regardless of which thumb was sucked, it was declared proof of right handedness. i started to speculate maybe i was born left handed, but chose to be right handed at a time before i can remmber to fit in with others, and maybe that explains why my hand writing is so messy because i'm not truly as right handed as i think

    anyway, forcing myself to be left handed at the age of 18 has led to ambidexterous behavior. i remember tutoring, writing on the long chalkboard at some point it would be easier to swap the chalk mid line, and people would comment shocked it was possible as if i was born that way and didnt just earn it. some adjudicators also noticed the way i play kaboom is by shifting hands, i use the fact i can use both hands to help with endurance. same with tapper, the taps digging into myhand i learned to alternate and play it both ways.

    it can be taught, dont let the man tell you that you were too low born to be noble, or your stars prevent it, or you dna prevents it, you can do whatever you want.

  9. RTM's Avatar

    It's entirely possible that you spent your formative years shown how to do things by either right-handers or people showing right-handed techniques, adopted what you saw but never made your own determination as to your genetic pre-disposition until many years down the line.

    People actually CAN be "trained" to use another hand, but there's a difference between usage and genetic pre-disposition. You also are of the possibility of being "mixed-handed" which is that 4th case scenario I referenced after being ambi-dextrous. It is far less common. There is yet another scenario that I encountered within my research years back.

    Not sure if your memory goes back this far but the concept of "switching handedness" was expertly captured in one of the best episodes of a classic 1960's sci-fi series called "The Prisoner", specifically the episode "Schizoid Man". The show was inherently about the strength of human individuality and in an attempt to "break" the title character's indomitable spirit and determination the current "Number Two" at the time devised a long-term scheme to convince "Number Six" that he was a completely different personae down to switching his "handedness". Watching how he initially deals with the most basic tasks for the very first time is effectively that 5th case of handedness in my research, the one where the person cannot make up their mind which hand to use for most tasks.

    Anyway, here are some links to check out -

    https://www.brainblogger.com/2018/02/19/handedness-what-does-it-say-about-your-brain-structure/ - this link makes mention of the 4th condition of handedness known as being "mixed handed"

    - this is that "Prisoner" episode and is absolutely superb viewing !! (These typically get yanked from YT quite frequently due to copyright infringement so catch it while you can)


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  10. Barthax's Avatar

    Born left-handed, now right-handed due to "Christian" education systems... Still left-footed so the "anti-Christian" part of me wasn't removed. Stupid educators. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax

    Born left-handed, now right-handed due to "Christian" education systems... Still left-footed...

    My mother went through the same nonsense. However they allowed her to use her left hand as long as she simulated right handed writing — right hand tends to slant one way whereas left slants the other. But writing with your hand upside down so to speak compensates


    You can use “the devils hand” but only if you can simulate the output of the lords hand

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  12. RTM's Avatar

    Maybe in light of recent events I can resume writing that article once 2020 begins...a lot of work already done with much more to go. I'll talk to Phil and see if we can work it out.

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