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01-19-2020 at 07:37 PM
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Does Anyone Have Knowledge of "U.F.O." for the O2 ?

This is one of the tougher titles for the O2. I am reasonably certain that scores in the 2-3K range are do-able with a lot of luck, but the top two scores on the TG database, both from the early 1980's, are out of this world impossible or at least highly unlikely.

This is a single-life challenge not unlike most O2 titles...a lot of fun, but seriously tough. Decades back a friend of mine scored in the mid-thousand range in my presence which is why I am confident that the scores under 2K are all do-able. Even so, this is a slow-paced, painstakingly time consuming title to score so high on...and things can go wrong along the way at a moment's notice.

Has anyone ever seen even a picture or a documented claim online that shows scores this high for this title ?

https://www.twingalaxies.com/game/ufo/odyssey

PS - I'd have posted this in the "General Forum" but did not see a button for adding a new thread

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  1. Snowflake's Avatar

    sounds like something for a bounty!!!!

    personal opinon:

    i rememer playing this and noticing how slowly i was improving and then giving up, but consider this. if a game gave you 100 lives, by the time the game was over and you went through all 100 you'd be way better at the end of the game than the second and so you're second game would show much improvement, conversely a game with 1 life you wont improve much

    ok lets make the analogy a little more realistic now that my point is made, a game where each lives last 15 minutes at least even for a new player across all the time you'll learn many things and you're second life will do way better.

    where i'm going with this, is UFO is very hard and the games are very quick. so its easy to find yourself not improving much between games. but then when you realize how short each game was, of course there wasnt enough time to improve

    i think the reason most of us havent matched these scores is pscyohological. we see oursevles not improving as much between games as we'd like and then give up. i think if we put as many hours (not the same as as many games) into this as other gamesthen we'd find those top scores arent so untouchable.

  2. voodoo_chilly's Avatar

    I haven't played UFO that much but plan to re-visit it in near future. Anyway, here are some excerpts from Odyssey Adventure magazine in Tips section on UFO. Also an even higher score than you show above (11K).

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  3. RTM's Avatar

    That 11K score I believe even less, obviously.

    John, you have an O2, I encourage you to give it a shot. Watch how hard just one thousand is let alone six, seven or even eleven...I just don't buy that those scores are real.

    Seems like a "bounty" is in the cards though not just yet...I'd live to see how John does first and hopefully another player if possible.

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  4. RTM's Avatar

    One thing to consider...this game MOST likely does not have a 5-digit score...so how would the person prove a score of 11K ?

    That leaves the other two scores on the TG site of 6K and 7K. I'll bite my tongue if proven wrong but I don't believe these as well.

    Maybe April/May is when I will take out a "bounty" on this one.

  5. voodoo_chilly's Avatar

    I think whoever worked at the magazine, entered an extra digit possibly. For example, remove the zero at the end and it fits into the range of the other scores listed (1109 instead of 11,090)

  6. Snowflake's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by RTM

    One thing to consider...this game MOST likely does not have a 5-digit score...so how would the person prove a score of 11K ?

    That leaves the other two scores on the TG site of 6K and 7K. I'll bite my tongue if proven wrong but I don't believe these as well.

    Maybe April/May is when I will take out a "bounty" on this one.


    i had the same issue with mark feldt's mouestrap score, how do you prove roll overs with just photo?
    wasnt it you who pointed out to me tg would just accept multiple photos in the case of a rollover? i think you said your starwars score also used photos for roll over.

    if tg felt photos could prove rollover i dont see why its any harder to believe a magazine would do the same. if its invalid for a magazine to do such a thing wouldnt all such tg scores be equally invalid?

  7. RTM's Avatar

    While TG accepted photos back in the day, nobody knows what the folks at Magnavox accepted...or whoever was responsible for the article that cited that 11K score, or wherever TG got the other 1982-1983 scores from (including the sub-2K scores)

    I have no idea what the source of these scores was as they were part of the TG database pre-2001 and I am unsure when TG even started accepting console performances to track for that matter.

    That's a good question for someone to research...what is the oldest score that TG accepted from a console performance...and by this I mean how far back was it that TG accepted console scores ? To be honest I haven't a clue.

  8. Fly's Avatar

    Photos...well at least they had something. I have a friend that used to phone in his scores in the 80's. Walter didn't ask about settings or anything. He just took the scores. Some of those scores are still 1st place.

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  9. The Evener's Avatar

    To follow up on Voodoo_chilly, I think that the source of UFO scores was this Magnovox publication called "Odyssey Adventure" - basically a company-issued newsletter that was pretty common back in the day. Page 9 lists the scores in question. Interestingly the 11,000 score is gone. Possibly a caught typo and changed for future newsletters. What season/year is your pub VC?

    But take a read about the scores they DIDN'T include! Apparently kids back in the day were maxing out KC Munchkin at 9,999 so they stopped tracking the game (!) Like the Activisions newsletter, the required proof to have your score accepted (and to earn a T-shirt) was a photograph. There's also a great write-up on a Pick-Axe Pete contest - I love stories about these type of company-sponsored tournament. Looks like we need a new category for Pick-Axe Pete too -- 15 minute score limit, some pretty amazing scores being racked up in a tournament setting!

    http://www.digitpress.com/library/magazines/odyssey_adventure/odyssey_adventure_winter83.pdf


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    Updated 01-20-2020 at 06:07 AM by The Evener
  10. voodoo_chilly's Avatar

    The UFO clips I got from an atariage forum post since all the UFO stuff was conveniently there. Here is a link to the collection of Odyssey Adventure magazines....
    http://www.ozyr.com/o2adv/oaindex.html

    Yes, I saw those maxouts on KC Munchkin of 9999! I have seen a photo of

  11. Snowflake's Avatar

    15 minute time limit? so that tells me either they required video (hard to beleive back then) or it was also the honor system. also a time limit is particulrly awful to do with the honor system since even an honest person can easily make honest mistakes with timing.

    this is a good reminder though when people bash walter for being too gullible. he wasnt the only one. lots of places never took into account how many people are big enough losers in life to feel the need to lie about video game scores.

  12. voodoo_chilly's Avatar

    @Snowflake there is video of the event. It was at a Worlds Fair that was here in US. in Tennessee maybe??? IF this is whatTHe Evener is talking about. They could start on screen 6. I remember the video shows the kid being interviewed saying all you do is go to the top and just jump rocks or something to that effect. The winner won a pound of gold.

  13. The Evener's Avatar

    The story is cited in the first few pages of the newsletter I linked above. Might be the same one VC? It was live Tournament so I'd imagine they'd simple start a timer and then everyone starts their 15 min run under the event rules.

  14. Snowflake's Avatar

    ah thx for the clarifciation, i thought you were saying they mailed in the scores.

  15. Snowflake's Avatar

    -- i didnt read the links, but good links none the less. i've been using the atari comepdium and reading through old "electronic games" mags. they also have intellivision and atari newsleters on that site, but i dont think they have the 02 one, so this is is good, this is added to my long term read list

  16. voodoo_chilly's Avatar

    Yeah thats the same event. I just looked up the short news video of the contest:

  17. The Evener's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo_chilly

    The UFO clips I got from an atariage forum post since all the UFO stuff was conveniently there. Here is a link to the collection of Odyssey Adventure magazines....
    http://www.ozyr.com/o2adv/oaindex.html

    Yes, I saw those maxouts on KC Munchkin of 9999! I have seen a photo of

    Is it possible to rig a max photo by using the keyboard to type out 9999? Just curious I'm at work and can't try it myself. Or are we dealing with "lost knowledge" about how to max Muchkin?

  18. voodoo_chilly's Avatar

    My comment got cut short when my post ended with "I have seen a photo of"...

    I meant to say I have seen a photo of over 3000 points on Maze 3 KC Munchkin. There is FB group on Odyssey 2 called "Odyssey 2 fans" where the guy running it plays games etc. I remember he posted a pic of his score.

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  19. RTM's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by The Evener
    But take a read about the scores they DIDN'T include! Apparently kids back in the day were maxing out KC Munchkin at 9,999 so they stopped tracking the game



    RTM REPLY - The problem with "KC Munchkin" is that the it allowed for a programmable maze...if you did not check the photo very carefully then you could i theory blow one past Magnavox. I have to read that link you provided as I never knew such a newsletter or periodical existed, thanks for providing !!

  20. RTM's Avatar

    I read the "tips" from the Odyssey 2 magazine for "Pete", watched a video of 938 that John Marks provided, and listened to the video of that event where the winner gave his top left "strategy".

    In the video that John shared with me the top left strategy failed after a minute around 50+ points because the barrels quickly became more aggressive and you could not jump over them (or under). Also you can't easily get a pick at that section of the game since they fall downwards and unless you are on the right side of the collision you can't get it at that height....only the key. Plus you are banking that the key reaches the upper left side.

    As the game progresses more and more pieces are missing so the "top left" potentially will be gone...I never saw the game that deep into gameplay, but pieces are missing after every completed screen. If the top left somehow survives then even so the barrel bounces change in short order.

    I would really have to see a 9,999 performance to believe it. I've seen 700+ in a single screen and it gets VERY bad so point-pressing works against you in this game early one.

    Equally unbelievable from that magazine was the top score of nearly 10,000 on "Freedom Fighter". John Marks knows how bad this game is and even 1,000 would be phenomenal...I just can't envision 10,000 especially from 10 year olds.

    Now for the "Pete" contest video, a 15 minute challenge...it's a dang shame that they were not allowed to play for longer as I personally scored 1,000+ on each of the various game screen types. So seeing scores of 700+ is no big deal, not even in 15 minutes. The real challenge is when more and more pieces are missing.

    I'll bite my tongue if someone shows me videos of any of these claimed high scores...7K on "U.F.O.", 10K on "Pete", "Freedom Fighter" or "KC"...I just don't buy it. None of them, However of these four only "KC" has the likely potential for 10K due to its more forgivable design than the other three.

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