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sacrieon
11-28-2018 at 12:45 PM
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Voting on your own submissions

I've noticed since submitting a couple of scores, it gives you the option to vote on your own score. I've held off from voting on my own submissions and curious how everyone else approaches this?


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  1. TWIN GALAXIES's Avatar

    This is correct. Users have the ability to vote on their own submissions for the time being.

    We cannot promise this ability will be around forever.

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  2. Max's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES

    This is correct. Users have the ability to vote on their own submissions for the time being.

    We cannot promise this ability will be around forever.


    "The president can vote for themselves, and you can too!"

    -Jace Hall


    Hopefully any change to the CR process won't be an attempt at a quick fix due to only a few members have super high CR. Having only a few members with very high CR is indicative of a systemic design error. Perhaps the value of CR at the voting level should be re-evaluated across the board (ie adjust the economy so not just a few control all voting).


    Edited in: the system works as designed, but he community isn't as active as the original design had hoped for. Adjusting the value of CR at the voting stage (economy) accounts for lower than anticipated community activity.

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    Updated 11-28-2018 at 01:43 PM by Max
  3. Snowflake's Avatar

    yes you can and probably should vote on your own stuff. understandably that feels like a conflict of interest which is why admin has indicated some concern it could be a problem with high cred people voting on their own stuff. your new, your cred is low, you cant force your submission through so theres no real conflit of interest danger. also, voting on your own sub gives you more cred points, and hey, if you did a good job submitting and correctly voting on your stuff, why not give you more cred as it does show you have some idea what you're doing.

  4. GibGirl's Avatar

    I like to think of it as a submission point refund for making sure your submission was good enough to complete successfully.

  5. MyOwnWorstEnemy's Avatar

    It does feel odd voting Yes on your own submission for a peer review adjudication process. The analogy Jace used is misplaced as an adjudication process, by design and expectation, should be free of bias in its decision. A political election is not an adjudication process, its a popularity contest. I prefer this analogy, the defendant isn't allowed to cast their vote as the 13th jurist. The jury being the defendant's peers.

    But since its allowed, by all means vote on your own submission and recoup on submission point and earn 3 credibility points. Think of it as a perk for providing a score and evidence package that will be awarded back to you, if approved by your peers.

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  6. Max's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnWorstEnemy

    I prefer this analogy, the defendant isn't allowed to cast their vote as the 13th jurist. The jury being the defendant's peers.


    I prefer your analogy over Jace's too. Of course given that votes are weighted based on CR, "a jury of your peers" equates those who have the most CR. With regret, that's not a jury of your peers at all (unless you are in the group who has the most CR).


    Only the rich will consider the outcome.


    By all means, feel free to vote though.

  7. MyOwnWorstEnemy's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by Max



    I prefer your analogy over Jace's too. Of course given that votes are weighted based on CR, "a jury of your peers" equates those who have the most CR. With regret, that's not a jury of your peers at all (unless you are in the group who has the most CR).


    Only the rich will consider the outcome.


    By all means, feel free to vote though.


    Maybe this 'adjudication' system is more like an electoral college with super delegates! You think your vote counts but....... not really.

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  8. sacrieon's Avatar
    Cool thanks for all the insights, I now have a better understanding of how the voting works.
  9. speedy47591's Avatar

    I didn’t at first cause it seemed like a conflict of interest, but then Dave said it was ok so I started, then I heard that it was an issue that might be addressed in the future so I stopped. I can kind of see it both ways, on the one hand , like I said, conflict of interest. On the other hand.. you’ve got to be extremely confident in your sub to vote on it cause you can get dinged twice, once with an incorrect adjudication, and once with a rejected submission, and I ain’t about to hate on someone for having enough confidence that that possibility doesn’t bother them. Since I can see it both ways, the best advice I can give is to do whatever feels the most right to you until tg tells you to stop.

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  10. Conjured Entertainment's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by GibGirl

    I like to think of it as a submission point refund for making sure your submission was good enough to complete successfully.

    That is why I do it ... to get the SP back... because it offsets the losses when I do make a submission mistake.

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  11. roostja1977's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES

    This is correct. Users have the ability to vote on their own submissions for the time being.

    We cannot promise this ability will be around forever.


    How do I get submission points? I didn't get a free one when I signed up because if I go to Submit Score it says I have to have 3 submission points. Here's my activity screen.

  12. sacrieon's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by roostja1977
    Quote Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES
    This is correct. Users have the ability to vote on their own submissions for the time being.We cannot promise this ability will be around forever.
    How do I get submission points? I didn't get a free one when I signed up because if I go to Submit Score it says I have to have 3 submission points. Here's my activity screen.
    I had the same issue when I signed up, there was an issue with the points not syncing. Admin fixed it for me, also you will have to vote on other people's submissions to gain points.
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