TG's First Guestbook: August 01, 1997 - May 08, 1998

  1. TG's First Guestbook: August 01, 1997 - May 08, 1998

    04-30-2005, 06:05 PM
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    Thank you for visiting our pages. We would love it if you would Add to this guestbook we are keeping! Damnit I can't beat nirv's Rally scores! He got 1:06:69 i got 1:06:78 !!! I just cant do it captain! I Dont have the power!!! -FLuKE
    FLuKE <fluke98@hotmail.com>
    Cambridge, Ontario CANADA - Friday, May 08, 1998 at 22:29:28 (EDT)

    Cool site dude.
    Brian Faris <bfaris@concentric.net>
    Surrey, BC CANADA - Monday, May 04, 1998 at 19:23:45 (EDT)

    Cool site dude.
    Brian Faris <bfaris@concentric.net>
    Surrey, BC CANADA - Monday, May 04, 1998 at 19:22:33 (EDT)

    Jai Guru Dev. I don't believe those California scores either. I think you're making them up. I will prove to anyone any day that my scores are the highest. Celestial scores -- those are mine. Scores of the gods. Way, dude.
    Marr Goodrum
    USA - Saturday, April 25, 1998 at 04:20:22 (EDT)

    If anybody is interested in joining a internet gaming club then e-mail me and I will get us started. Play on!!!!!!!
    Steven Boles <bk760@rgfn.epcc.edu>
    El Paso, TX, USA - Friday, April 17, 1998 at 18:09:03 (EDT)

    Hey uncle Walter! Let me get to the point., I don't believe those Daytona records! Hopefully time will tell if he can prove his time again, No excuses! Anyways, if anyone doesn't believe ANY of my records on a Racing game I'll be more than happy to not only put up the same time again... or just simply better it. Now to what Im really here for if can beat any of my times for example (like someone in California with Cruis'n USA) just sent it Walter Day not me. Fact is, I dont believe some of those CA scores myself... nothing personal.
    Daniel Rodriguez <RJDNAS@concentric.net>
    Hialeah, FL USA - Thursday, April 16, 1998 at 16:36:32 (EDT)

    Hey uncle Walter! Let me get to the point., I don't believe those Daytona records! Hopefully time will tell if he can prove his time again, No excuses! Anyways, if anyone doesn't believe ANY of my records on a Racing game I'll be more than happy to not only put up the same time again... or just simply better it. Now to what Im really here for if can beat any of my times for example (like someone in California with Cruis'n USA) just sent it Walter Day not me. Fact is, I dont believe some of those CA scores myself... nothing personal.
    Daniel Rodriguez <RJDNAS@concentric.net>
    Hialeah, FL USA - Thursday, April 16, 1998 at 16:00:30 (EDT)

    Greetings from an ex-Upland, California \"Starship Video - the arcade designed like a spaceship!\" (circa 1985) employee. Greetings also to Jeff Peters, Shannon Paul Ryan, Steve \"EEEidiot!\" Joseph, John Pretzer, and other Starship Video alumni. May the nostolgia of the past drive us to create now worthy memories for the future. And may our creations reflect the granduer of our creator.
    David Sutherland <technologist@technologist.com>
    Pasadena, CA USA - Saturday, April 11, 1998 at 16:24:33 (EDT)

    Recently someone from Singapore published Daytona USA (arcade version) records on the net. You can view their site at this address: http://web.singnet.com.sg/~yihwen/Daytona/Daytona.html Much faster than here in my country, unfortunately but definitely many times faster than what you had in your video game score board. Those times are certainly world records! Daytona fans out there can visit their site to find out how they did these amazing times.
    Alex <lexwalker@hotmail.com>
    Kuala Lumpur, WP Malaysia - Thursday, April 09, 1998 at 06:16:10 (EDT)

    I can recall reading about the fabled Twin Galaxies arcade way back when, and was glad to see Walter resurrect it for a new generation. The book is fantastic (points weren't always \"pointless\"!). The hotel stories are priceless, maybe worthy of their own book. I was a bit too young (and far too unskilled) to even come close to what some of these guys were achieving; perhaps now's my chance... Thanks Walter, for devoting so much time to this subject. Guys like you are what the Golden Age of Video Games was all about. Just make some time for yourself and get back into gaming once in awhile!
    Scott Stilphen <scottith@ptd.net>
    Mountain Top, PA USA - Tuesday, March 24, 1998 at 20:10:38 (EST)

    It's good to know that there is someone like you is keeping track of high scores. Keep it up!
    Dara Kong <DKGAMEZ@aol.com>
    Cerritos, CA USA - Tuesday, March 17, 1998 at 00:09:36 (EST)

    Nice Webpage
    Tanveer Sangha <sanghakids@localaccess.com>
    Centralia, WA USA - Wednesday, March 11, 1998 at 20:25:23 (EST) Walter has a great page here. I love what Twin Galaxies is doing for video gaming, and I really appreciate all of his effort. I look forward to being in the book myself next year and hopefully meeting Walter, Stepehn Krogman and the rest this summer.
    Paul Acevedo <eastman@mastnet.net>
    Lake Jackson, TX USA - Wednesday, March 11, 1998 at 05:41:59 (EST)

    I've been an avid videogame player since the early 80's as well as most of the rest of you. But unfortunatly I didn't even hear of Twin Galaxies until Last November (I know, major bummer!). I was excited as I needed to get this book and see for myself. The book is impressive indeed and I really respect Walter for everything that he continues to do for the videogame players. I've known Leo Daniels for almost a year and talk to him daily on IRC and I've also started talking to Stephen Krogman as well. I also had to personally contact Walter and tell him about the piece of art that he wrote as this book is everything that I expected it to be, plus a whole lot more. I was also surprised to see that I had a little score of mine in the book that Nintendo Power submitted to Walter. It wasn't anything that fabulous, as it was only a finished score for Power Blade for the NES, but it's a start. In the meantime I've talked to Walter about the possibilities of me becoming the official scorekeeper for the NW Indiana area and to my surprise he accepted my offer. Now I get to help others in my area who know that they are one of the best prove it and hopefully get their name in print. I'm also looking into maybe forming a team in the NW Indiana area as well. If anyone is from the NW Indiana area (Lake, Porter, and LaPorte counties) and you think that you've got what it takes or want to try to set up a date so that I see if you are one of the best then e-mail me and I'll get ahold of Walter (as everything needs to be approved by him first). Hope to see some of you in the future and remember that It doesn't matter if you win or lose as long as you have fun.
    Scott Kimberling <n64@netnitco.net>
    Valparaiso, IN USA - Thursday, March 05, 1998 at 02:27:59 (EST)

    I didn't know I was even in this book until someone called me. There I am,..four years later, for a computer simulation tournament named Crystal Caliburn. I just ordered the book so I don't know what page I'm on. Thanks guys!---Mark Sargent
    Mark Sargent <afcsargent@aol.com>
    Boulder, CO USA - Friday, February 27, 1998 at 17:02:43 (EST)

    Hi Walt! Remember me? Aladdin's Castle #77 in Mobile. Just received your book. Its great this is the best thing to come along in years. We here would like to let you know we have 20 unofficial records on the games here. The best record is on \"RUSH\" by some seven (7) seconds. Please drop me a line when you can. Thanks, Anthony
    Anthony Schenck <anthonys@zebra.net>
    Mobile, Al USA - Thursday, February 26, 1998 at 19:38:22 (EST)

    I would just like to thank you for keeping the old video game spirit alive. I'm going to get all of my skills back and take over some of these scores you can count on that. I would love to come and meet you personally. Thanks again for maintaing a reason to enjoy video games. =)
    Jason Grimes <VladTheMad@aol.com>
    Ames, IA USA - Friday, February 20, 1998 at 15:24:30 (EST)

    Hi all, folks! Let your hands break any existing record ! Please note: any high-scorer (human?) need to eat (sometime...) and drink (during level changes). Bye ;)
    Andrea Rimicci <arimicci@altavista.net>
    Albisola, SV Italy - Saturday, February 14, 1998 at 10:02:22 (EST)

    Whew-ee!!! I am Mark Longridge's girlfriend and I just came to check out your *HIGHLY* buttkickin' page! Can't wait to read the BOOK!!!!!!!! See you in February!!
    Suzanne Guidry <suzy@nilenet.com>
    Denver, CO USA - Thursday, January 29, 1998 at 16:59:14 (EST)

    Dear \"Uncle\" Walter, Even know were not related, it almost seems that way sometimes. This is my story I would like to share with everyone about how I became to be not only a Prolific \"High Scorer\" and \"World Record\" Holder but what it was like to meet the master mind behind what it is known as \"The Video Game Capital of the World\" - Twin Galaxies. unfortunately, in the early 80's the time T.G. began untill they were into there 4th year world-wide tournament, I was in my own little world of Boca Raton, Florida racking up what would of been some current world records at that very moment, not knowing a thing about what T.G. was all about untill around 86'. It was around that time When I stumbled apon the T.G. Intergalactic scoreboad in a back section of the Guinness Book of World Records. I made numerous attempts to contact this scoreboard and one of the Guinness offices in England and got no were.
    Stephen \"Galaga\" Krogman <SKrogman@concentric.net>
    Mount Prospect, Il USA - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 16:59:43 (EST)

    (Page #2 cont.) It was the middle of Sept. 97' when surfing the internet one night, I came accross a news release about this company called \"Twin Galaxies\" and Walter Day as the coordinator. All I can say is at that very moment it was one of the most happiest days of my life. More then a decade later, and an answer to one of the many letters I've sent in trying to track down this world record score keeper. Without getting my hopes up, I sent some e-mail to the address listed with the news release, and within less then 24 hours was all it took for Walter to write back to me just as happy as I was when I found him. We began talking 1 to 2 times a day between e-mail and on the phone. Within a few months later, I had made my move to Illinois from Florida to work a new job and just 2 weeks after I arrived here, I was notified from Walter that we were finally going to get to meet one another. Face to face at the 97' Pinball Expo in Rosemont Il.
    Stephen \"Galaga\" Krogman <SKrogman@concentric.net>
    Mount Prospect, Il USA - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 16:41:00 (EST)

    (Page #3 cont.) I was so excited I couldn't believe it was true. What would I say? How would I react? Well that day came, and on the 2nd day of the event, surprisingly enough I was introduced to Walter by my friend Danny Rodriguez, who had bumped into him just minutes before. Speechless of course, but just for a few seconds, and then we just talked endlessly for over an hour. I can't tell you how much hard work and countless hours Walter has devoted into the name \"Twin Galaxies\" that stands behind him since the early 80's. Here is a man. One dream. One goal. Carried it on his back for 17 years. Been through THICK and thin. Took a decade off not knowing if he would ever be able to continue his dream.
    Stephen \"Galaga\" Krogman <SKrogman@concentric.net>
    Mount Prospect, Il USA - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 16:23:08 (EST)

    (Page #4 cont.) After the video game industry took a bad fall to the birth of \"Home Game Consoles\" in 86'. Faith is what kept his dreams alive. What I would like to say in closing is, in just 4 short months, we have formed such a friendship between us that what the future holds for T.G. neither of us can phanthom. Walter knows when deadlines have to be met, and ideas need to be created, for different promotions and events, he can count on me any day of the week. He also knows that over a decade ago, of now memories, I never knew existed... well it's my turn now! Records WILL be broken in large quantities, and Walter can vouch for that! Regards, your good friend Stephen Krogman.
    Stephen \"Galaga\" Krogman <SKrogman@concentric.net>
    Mount Prospect, Il USA - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 16:11:43 (EST)

    Dear \"Uncle\" Walter, Even know were really not related, it almost seems that way some times. This is my story I would like to share with everyone about how I became to be not only a prolific \"High Scorer\" and \"World Record\" holder, but what it was like to meet the master mind behind what is known as \"The Video Game Capital of the World\"-Twin galaxies. Unfortunately in the early 80's, the time Twin Galaxies began, untill they were into their 4th year World Wide tournament, I was in MY own little world of Boca Raton, FL. racking up what would of been some current world records at that very moment. Not knowing a thing about what Twin Galaxies was all about untill around 1986, when I stumbled apon the T.G. Intergalactic Scoreboard in a back section of the Guinness Book of World Records. I made numerous attempts to contact this scoreboard and one of the Guinness offices in England and got no where. It was the middle of Sept. 1997 when surfing on the internet I came accross a News Release about this company called \"Twin Galaxies\" and Walter Day as coordinator. All I can say is at that very moment it was one of the most happiest days of my life. More then a decade later, an answer to one of the many letters I've sent in trying to track down this world record score keeper. (cont. on next page)
    Stephen \"Galaga\" Krogman <SKrogman@concentric.net>
    Mount Prospect, Il USA - Tuesday, January 27, 1998 at 03:45:08 (EST)

    I've been gaming since PONG - yeah the dot thing-and now have played most all there is and have some awsome consoles. Over the last 6-10 yrs i've BUILT the ULTIMATE GAMING RIG! 1989/90-create arcade machine replica with brother/friend from partacle board-painted black,poastered,modified 6 times 91/92-replace composite video monitor with used comadore 1084s RED GREEN BLUE display 93/94/95-build surround sound system PIECE BY PIECE EX: reciever then a set of rear speakers,front and finally a center 96/97-sent n64 than later playstation to calif for rgb modification-neither is capable out of the box- SEGA ALAYS HAS BEEN only requiring special cables to display it/also got a REAL ARCADE MONITOR from the people that madified my stuff-HOWEVER BE FORWARNED - it only displayes in rgb has NO SPEAKERS,REMOTE or TV TUNER YOU MUST HAVE EXTERNAL SPEAKERS + TV TUNER!!!!!! go to massystems.com for CHEAP game storage boxes contact Michael Highbarger at 1-800-446-3364 i've gotten 50 boxes for under$30 s/h included-recomend their quad case that holdes:GENESIS,ps-in music cd SINGLE CD SIZE jewl case NO FF7 ,snes,n64 sorry 32x/saturn backup ram cart too BIG TO FIT(NO SUPER GB) I've been trying to get game boy cases but mike has to order in MASSIVE QUANITYS so if any 1 else wants some please ask
    balance <wbogdan@hotmail.com>
    columbus, oh USA - Wednesday, January 14, 1998 at 02:13:17 (EST)

    I've been gaming since PONG - yeah the dot thing-and now have played most all there is and have some awsome consoles. Over the last 6-10 yrs i've BUILT the ULTIMATE GAMING RIG! 1989/90-create arcade machine replica with brother/friend from partacle board-painted black,poastered,modified 6 times 91/92-replace composite video monitor with used comadore 1084s RED GREEN BLUE display 93/94/95-build surround sound system PIECE BY PIECE EX: reciever then a set of rear speakers,front and finally a center 96/97-sent n64 than later playstation to calif for rgb modification-neither is capable out of the box- SEGA ALAYS HAS BEEN only requiring special cables to display it/also got a REAL ARCADE MONITOR from the people that madified my stuff-HOWEVER BE FORWARNED - it only displayes in rgb has NO SPEAKERS,REMOTE or TV TUNER YOU MUST HAVE EXTERNAL SPEAKERS + TV TUNER!!!!!! go to massystems.com for CHEAP game storage boxes contact Michael Highbarger at 1-800-446-3364 i've gotten 50 boxes for under$30 s/h included-recomend their quad case that holdes:GENESIS,ps-in music cd SINGLE CD SIZE jewl case NO FF7 ,snes,n64 sorry 32x/saturn backup ram cart too BIG TO FIT(NO SUPER GB) I've been trying to get game boy cases but mike has to order in MASSIVE QUANITYS so if any 1 else wants some please ask
    balance <wbogdan@hotmail.com>
    columbus, oh USA - Wednesday, January 14, 1998 at 02:05:10 (EST)

    Gex666 speaks through actions, not words.
    Gex666 <Gex666@concentric.net>
    Flushing, NY USA - Monday, January 05, 1998 at 22:51:04 (EST)

    Hello. I was wondering if there were any Star Wars players around. Im not talking about the pinball games, im talking about the videogame. i can play it for as long as i want. there is only one arcade that i know that has it. There are no difficulty settings listed on the twin galaxies web page and i was wondering how i could get my name on the world record list.
    Dave Kensler <galagadave@aol.com>
    White Lake, MI USA - Monday, January 05, 1998 at 01:04:29 (EST)

    Hello WALTER! FT.Lauderdale team is sighning in to the guest book.You have done wonders in the field of video game high score recognition. Thanks for all thoes countless hours and unlimited effort to give no names like me the respect we deserve. All hail the mighty book of high scores, Thanks again for everything. \"Lazy\"
    Robert Minasian <marykaren@mail2.theonramp.net>
    margate, fla USA - Wednesday, December 24, 1997 at 23:21:40 (EST)

    Walter, Did you find out about Robotron for the Tournament? Also, could you give me a call January 2nd in the evening, and maybe we could talk with Steve and Leo? Thanks, Greg Sakundiak
    Greg Sakundiak <rcsakund@telusplanet.net>>
    Calgary, AB Canada - Monday, December 22, 1997 at 16:33:35 (EST)

    Hi Walter. We love your sight. Hopefully someday we will be listed as a record holder. Maybe we are some of the youngest! Take care Cooper and Sammy Rose
    cooper and sammy rose <cr3po@aol.com>
    fairfield, IA USA - Tuesday, December 16, 1997 at 22:07:54 (EST)

    I spent many days in TG in the early 80's, spent a lot of money there as well. I seen the full front page article in the Des Moines Register, and it brought back great memories. Man it's great that you are keeping the TWIN GALAXY name alive.
    Mike Maddison <jafo4@aol>
    Des Moines, IA USA - Monday, December 15, 1997 at 08:32:47 (EST)

    I am looking extremely forward to the competiton that will be involved with my contributions to the Chicago-All Stars. As an avid video game player who started in Las Vegas in 1980, I have seen the rise and fall of arcades at a very young age. I may only be 21, but I have been to over 100 different arcades in 10 states, seeing all the great accomplishments, and once again, through Twin Galaxies, will the world see that an all-around player, not just one who can only play Mortal Kombat, will be recognized.
    Jason E. Wilson <DreamTr@aol.com>
    Chicago, IL USA - Friday, December 05, 1997 at 03:13:22 (EST)

    I wish everyone entering the tournaments good luck! If it wasn't for twingalaxies and Walter Day I wouldn't of found any kind of competition. I hope this is only the start of a new era. DanieL R.
    Daniel Rodriguez
    Mt. Prospect, IL USA - Monday, December 01, 1997 at 20:59:52 (EST)

    I wish everyone entering the tournaments good luck! If it wasn't for twingalaxies and Walter Day I wouldn't of found any kind of competition. I hope this is only the start of a new era. DanieL R.
    Daniel Rodriguez
    Mt. Prospect, IL USA - Monday, December 01, 1997 at 20:57:33 (EST)

    Good site...but will it all catch on once again???
    Jason E. Wilson <Dreamtr@aol.com>
    Chicago, IL USA - Monday, December 01, 1997 at 01:30:48 (EST)

    Looking to start a team in GA Galaga High Score = 1.24 million
    Scott Moore <smoore@iss.net>
    Atlanta, GA USA - Monday, November 24, 1997 at 11:47:43 (EST)

    Wow, it's been fifteen years since I first heard about the Twin Galaxies arcade and Walter Day through the original That's Incredible Video Game Invitational. Was worried that it would be defunct after reading about Twin Galaxies' woes during the mid 80's in Roger C. sharpe's old \"Video Games\" magazine. Of course we all know what happened! Since then I've had the extreme pleasure to read the excellent but short-lived arcade player's magazine \"Top Score\", and watched the industry bounce back with a vengeance! Now with the publication of the book I couldn't be happier! My sincere thanks for never abandoning this \"fad\" as it was called by its detractors, and continuing to keep track of the best scores in the world!
    Chad Harris <ratso_rizzo@mindspring.com>
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL USA - Sunday, November 23, 1997 at 02:13:36 (EST)

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    test, test USA - Tuesday, November 18, 1997 at 17:30:09 (EST)

    Legend of Zelda - 0:43:58 without dying, Tekken 2 Survival Mode - 132 wins (Nina), Street Fighter Alpha - Perfect Game
    Stephen Menton <sorianlabs@hotmail.com>
    Eugene, OR USA - Wednesday, November 12, 1997 at 15:42:53 (EST)

    I want the Mame contest to happen! Im trying to get friends into it. I am also adding a ling to your page on mine to help the cause. Thanks for putting out the \"Guinnes\" book of video games. Check out my site!!!!!! midibanner.gif (7064 bytes)
    Greg Frazier <FghtGrvty1@aol.com>
    Richmond, VA USA - Friday, October 31, 1997 at 00:06:49 (EST)

    This site is terrific. I had no idea there was a single guru keeping track of the world's highest scores!
    Robin Warren <rwarren@callbackinfo.com>
    San Francisco, CA USA - Thursday, October 23, 1997 at 16:34:52 (EDT)

    First off, I would like to say that i'm glad someone is looking out for the gamers out there, thanx. Second, Gameworks would like to extend their hand, and welcome any tournament that you would like to hold here. Our newly formed Tournament Commitee is now, and will be putting on some of the hottest competitions on some of the newest games out. If there is anything that you can think of, feel free to e-mail me.
    Jon Van Bibber <Bachelor13@aol.com>
    Seattle, wa USA - Tuesday, September 23, 1997 at 18:43:44 (EDT)

    I'm hoping in 98' to have Grand Prix Golf-O-Rama in Dania Florida, a part of this tournement in a big way. They have over 1,000+ video/pinball/redemption games in 2 adjacent buildings. This is where I got my all-time record back in 91'. It was on Galaga. I played for 9+ hours, and then quit with 6 men left 1,200+ stages played, a hit-miss-ratio of 82%, 150,000+ shots fired, and a final score of 15,999,990 (so I could put my name :) ) This hugh FEC, is open 24-7-365! Bill Mitchell I believe is from Miami? He should rememember this giant arcade.
    Stephen Krogman
    USA - Saturday, September 06, 1997 at 03:44:38 (EDT)

    I can't wait to be a part of this one of it's kind world record book. I waited almost 15 years for something like this to happen. Thanks Twin Galaxies!
    Stephen M. Krogman <SKrogman@concentric.com>
    Walls, Ms USA - Saturday, September 06, 1997 at 03:12:44 (EDT)

    I can't wait to be a part of this one of it's kind world record book. I waited almost 15 years for something like this to happen. Thanks Twin Galaxies!
    Stephen M. Krogman <SKrogman@concentric.com>
    Walls, Ms USA - Saturday, September 06, 1997 at 03:09:25 (EDT)

    It is great to see that Twin Galaxies is alive and well. It was quite an experience to talk with Walter Day and Bill \"the master\" Mitchell recently (after all these years). I'm grateful to have experienced the early 80's \"golden age\" video game scene with these two and many others. I'm looking forward to reading the upcoming TGIS book.
    Tom Asaki <asaki@lanl.gov>
    Los Alamos, NM USA - Tuesday, September 02, 1997 at 21:30:04 (EDT)

    Hi there, I guess first of all, I would like to know what the current high score is for Mr.Do! I owned an upright machine for about 4-5 years and posted about a dozen games over two million with an average score of about 1.8 million in the last few months I owned it. My highest score was 2,320,100 on March 8, 1986 ending on scene 147 with a time of 1 hour, 6 minutes, 23 seconds. My only proof of this is the fact that I wrote it down, and assuming no one else has reached a score like this, I can tell you what happens when your game goes over an hour in length. I regretted selling it some time later but was happy as hell to find M.A.M.E. and that it ran Mr.Do! It's definately harder to play this game with a keyboard than that nice firmly planted Wico joystick on the upright, but at least I can prove my scores with the emulator by taking multiple screen shots. My current high score is 1,389,800 and is posted on a couple of high score boards. It'll take a few months to get up to my old form. Anyway, are scores achieved from M.A.M.E. recognized as official high scores? I can say with complete certainty that the emulated game is an exact match of the arcade machine I owned (or at least extrememly close). Thanks for putting up a sight for people to check out how they compare with others who enjoy playing the same games as others.
    Kurt Lang <klang@wavefront.com>
    White Bear Lake, MN USA - Sunday, August 24, 1997 at 19:56:42 (EDT)

    Good to see that Twin Galaxies still exists in some way, shape, or form. I have a lot of fond memories from the old arcade in Ottumwa...
    Tim McVey <sprinter@kdsi.net>
    Oskaloosa, IA USA - Monday, August 04, 1997 at 08:56:52 (EDT)

    Guestbook is now working.
    Mark Longridge <cubeman@idirect.com>
    Oshawa, ON Canada - Friday, August 01, 1997 at 22:07:10 (EDT)

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