Article: Verification Clarification

  1. Article: Verification Clarification

    05-13-2014, 02:41 PM
    Jace Hall
    Head Custodian
    www.TwinGalaxies.com
  2. 05-14-2014, 12:57 AM
    Do you guys really think this is the right way to keep people interested in TG ?
    You got me wrong here maybe I was not clear enough.

    What I really wanted to ask was do you guys really think to limit the verification method to phone only is the best idea.

    A limitation or exclusion should be never an option. You already exclude members like dfonda and Juan Castellanos.

    You can of course take it serious but you know what you take it waaaay too serious for my taste.

    Gaming is a hobby for most of us it isn't esports or sports in general. As long as you don't plan to pay for every WR your comparison is invalid again.

    So you basically telling me that TG doesn't get the money from the phone calls ?

    Oh then why not offer a free option that way TG could save their money for more important things ;)

    With a copy of the passport for example you would have at least the real identity of the user but you have just a phone number.

    Just imagine the poilce stops you and would ask for your phone number instead of passport..

    The police officer says you can go we have your mobile phone number hahaha

    I don't buy this story cause like I said so many times now a phone number tells nothing about your identity.

    Like I said before your phone only method degrades quite some users no question.

    You can agree with me or not but his has already created a 2 class system. Members like Juan Castellanos, dfonda and myself are already excluded.

    I feel like a 2nd class user no matter if you say that isn't the case i feel like one right now and that what counts for me.
    Last edited by KIG666; 05-14-2014 at 01:09 AM.
  3. 05-14-2014, 03:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by KIG666 View Post
    You got me wrong here maybe I was not clear enough.

    What I really wanted to ask was do you guys really think to limit the verification method to phone only is the best idea.
    YES.

    A limitation or exclusion should be never an option. You already exclude members like dfonda and Juan Castellanos.
    We disagree. Limitations, exclusions and requirements must exist for any professional level game organization in order to create scarcity and value for the players and members who are making all the sacrifices and commitments required to participate in that organization to receive the benefits.

    You can of course take it serious but you know what you take it waaaay too serious for my taste.
    We absolutely take the matter of world records quite seriously. Obviously, your statement indicates that you do not, and that is probably the core of the issue here.

    Gaming is a hobby for most of us it isn't esports or sports in general. As long as you don't plan to pay for every WR your comparison is invalid again.
    You may be happier visiting a website that views professional level player achievement and world wide recognition as just a simple hobby. Twin Galaxies is not that place.

    So you basically telling me that TG doesn't get the money from the phone calls ?
    We are not basically telling you this. We are definitively telling you this.

    I don't buy this story cause like I said so many times now a phone number tells nothing about your identity.
    There is no story for you to "buy." It is a simple requirement if you want verified access, nothing more nothing less. It is evenly applied to all.

    You can agree with me or not but his has already created a 2 class system. Members like Juan Castellanos, dfonda and myself are already excluded.
    You are attempting to frame the situation to meet your own emotional needs and agenda on this issue. That is fine. You must do whatever makes you feel comfortable. However, please know that saying that there is a 2 class system that TG is creating because you are specifically choosing not to do something that you and everyone else is free to do, does not make logical sense. If you visit this website and choose never to post a message because you don't want people to know what you think, is that suddenly a 2 class system too? (Users who post, and users who don't?) Regardless of your confusing assessment - the fact is that everyone at Twin Galaxies is equally invited into the system under the exact same conditions and requirements. Either a user wants to conform to them or not. It's totally fine.

    I feel like a 2nd class user no matter if you say that isn't the case i feel like one right now and that what counts for me
    .

    We are sorry to hear that but unfortunately we can not control the way that you choose to feel. That is under your control. Perhaps in the future you may decide to feel differently - but again, there is nothing we can do about it either way.

    Thanks again for your understanding.
    Jace Hall
    Head Custodian
    www.TwinGalaxies.com
  4. 05-14-2014, 05:35 AM
    We absolutely take the matter of world records quite seriously. Obviously, your statement indicates that you do not, and that is probably the core of the issue here.


    You may be happier visiting a website that views professional level player achievement and world wide recognition as just a simple hobby. Twin Galaxies is not that place.
    No you are wrong I play serious and not just for fun but there is always a too much. In this case it's clearly too much if you exclude ppl from submitting scores by only offering the phone to activate their accounts.

    Besides Evo and of course Esports there isn't something like a proffesional scene. You call it professional level players I call it just ppl that try to max out games and have fun by doing that. It's far away from being a professional level player.

    I'm sure almost everyone in the CAG scene will agree here. Its a hobby but we take it serious.


    Oh just for the record if you want really take it serious you guys should try to weed out all the BS from the scoreboard first. The whole CAG scene laughs about those fake scores. Well known BS.

    You still aviod to answer my question about a 2nd option. Fine you said there will be no other way but you haven't still not answered me why a copy of my passport is not good enough to verify me.

    While I believe all should be done to higher the competition you guys do the opposite here by excluding ppl that could set a new WR. You do the best to get a super outdated scoreboard in no time. Even more outdated as it already is.

    Anyway as you already mentioned there will be never a 2nd option so I don't longer care. Nothing will change my mind the phone activation is used to make a few extra bucks ;)
  5. 05-14-2014, 06:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by KIG666 View Post
    Anyway as you already mentioned there will be never a 2nd option so I don't longer care. Nothing will change my mind the phone activation is used to make a few extra bucks ;)
    Do you SERIOUSLY still think this?
    FailFish
  6. 05-14-2014, 06:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Barra View Post
    Do you SERIOUSLY still think this?
    FailFish
    Of course I do :P

    Re-verification is not needed unless you have something like morphing abilities haha

    You are one person and you will be forever the same person even after your account was verified.

    Since they don't offer a more reliable/better working method its clear for me that they want make some extra bucks.

    Oh wait I know you are proud that it only cost you 1. Thats not right on a other topic you wrote you tried it a few times, costs around a buck each time you said ;)

    Others have tried also not only once. Some can't hear the voice loud enough, some just made a mistake with the phone number and had to do it again and again. Paying and paying no thanks this method suck donkey balls just my opinion of course.

    So yeah you have not only payed 1 buck so here you have your FailFish back haha


    BTW I don't care about TG anymore and you should not even care about my opinion cause you are happy with everything it seems ;)

    To question things isn't a bad thing actually that's the only way to get honest answers sometimes but only sometimes....
  7. 05-14-2014, 10:47 AM
    I'm totally loving the new verification process. It will keep turds like KIG666 from tolling my posts.
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  8. 05-14-2014, 11:01 AM
    Oooops dupicated my post.....
    Last edited by Sirsalt; 06-08-2014 at 09:42 AM. Reason: Accidentally duplicated my post...
  9. 05-14-2014, 12:18 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirsalt View Post
    I'm totally loving the new verification process. It will keep turds like KIG666 from tolling my posts.
    Why would I care about your postings ?

    You are nothing more than a kid with no manners so have a nice day turdboy.

    Oh a double posting as well, you are for sure not the brightest star in the universe lol
  10. 05-14-2014, 03:20 PM
    For anyone that is half serious about submitting, a minimal charge for account verification and NO charge for submissions is nothing.

    You can't argue this as being a cost prohibitive means for people to submit. If you can't afford $1 or less to verify your account, I think you have other priorities in your life that probably need to be addressed first. Think about what someone has to spend on hardware just to be able to make attempts.

    I do think there needs to be more clarification on reverification: How often will this occur and/or what factors will cause someone's account to need to be reverified?

    Just my two cents.
    Craig Rout Gallant

    Current verified TG WRs: 58

    My Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/CraigARG
    MAME World Records channel: http://www.youtube.com/MAMEWorldRecords
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