Originally Posted by lexmark

All is not lost yet. There still is the video evidence. :)


john

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Paul has since provided the nvram file necessary for proper playback of the INP, and I cannot find any TG rule prohibiting the submission of INP files that were recorded without first deleting nvram. So, as far as I can tell, this submission is valid thanks to Paul supplying the nvram file that allows for playback of the INP. Otherwise, I don't think the video evidence would have been enough by itself.

As I understand it, the TG rules for MAME submissions currently require a valid WolfMAME INP file that can be replayed and analyzed. Of course, it only makes sense to encourage additional evidence to be supplied (e.g., supplying a video); but I don't think additional evidence negates the rule requiring a valid INP that can be viewed in WolfMAME. Now that Paul has supplied an nvram file that allows for proper playback of the game (excepting the high score table oddity after the game is over), I concede this point to be moot as far as this submission is concerned.

I would consider this submission to be a good example of why MARP requires all submission to delete nvram before recording as it avoids playback issues. Perhaps the TG rules should be adjusted to also require this. If not, perhaps the rules should also mention the need to supply the nvram file for any submission that doesn't first delete nvram before recording as to avoid these playback problems going forward?

Regarding your question about the high score already being there, I suspect that's also due to the nvram file. Terrence or Barthax could certainly offer their expertise to confirm or deny that assumption on my part.

-J

I know other places do require to removal of the nvram before recording but I can't find anything Twin Galaxies related so since it was supplied all good.

Rules
Dip Switches:
--Initial Number of Keepers: 3
--High Score Enable: 1
--Novice Animal Speed: 99 (Default is 39)
--Expert Animal Speed: 99 (Default is 30)
--No Hit Mode: 0
--Free Game Rate: 0

PLEASE USE FULL SCREEN TWIN GALAXY MEMBERS TO SEE THE MAME ZOO KEEPER GAME SETTINGS!

At :05 to 07 of the video You Twin Galaxy Members who are Adjudicating MAME Zoo Keeper video Game Submission you Can Clearly See the Difficulty Settings for Zoo Keeper Which are Corresponding to TG Rules for this Game

and Can Be Verified at this Site The Official Arcade Zoo Keeper Manual Page 8
https://archive.org/stream/ArcadeGam...ge/n7/mode/2up

ACCEPTED CONGRATULATIONS PAUL on SMASHING THE ZOO KEEPER WORLD RECORD & Welcome to twin Galaxy I learned the Game enjoyed watching Excellent play

Zoo Keeper 3 Man Can Be Seen & Game Starts at :15 of the video

Zoo Keeper Twin Galaxy Member you Can Clearly See the Game Settings from 5:23 to 5:28 of the video That Meet ALL Specification & Twin Galaxy Rules for MAME ZOO KEEPER ALL GOOD A OK

Also At :05 to 07 of the video You Twin Galaxy Members who are Adjudicating MAME Zoo Keeper video Game Submission you Can Clearly See the Difficulty Settings for Zoo Keeper Which are Corresponding to TG Rules for this Game

MAE ANALYST BY jpittman in Reply # 10

M.A.M.E. - Zoo Keeper [Set 1] - Zoo Keeper Extreme! (ZEKE-99) - 2,011,350 - Paul Hornitzky Final Score is at 4:50 to 5:10 of the video Game Initials OOO

1 MILLION POINTS AT 3:48 3:49 of the video

2 MILLION POINTS AT 4:44 to 4:45 of the video

1st Man Lost is at 2:24-26 of the video

2nd Man Lost is at 3:08-10 of the video

3rd Man Lost is at 3:27-29 of the video

4th Man Lost is at 4:48-50 of the video

ACCEPTED

# 1 Paul Hornitzky WORLD RECORD 1ST PLACE FOR M.A.M.E. - Zoo Keeper [Set 1] - Zoo Keeper Extreme! (ZEKE-99) - 2,011,350 -

Zoo Keeper [Set 1] [Zoo Keeper Extreme! (ZEKE-99)]
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Founded by: William McEvoy , Mark Hoff

• General Rules
  Additional Info:
  
  
• Game Specific Rules:Goal:
  --Highest score on "maximum difficulty" to test your zoo keeping abilities against the toughest set of animals on the planet!
  --aka: Maximum Difficulty Challenge / Extreme Settings / 99-99 / ZEKE-99
  
  
  Romset:
  --Any official romset is acceptable (since future MAME updates may alter naming conventions, etc).
  
  
  Dip Switches:
  --Initial Number of Keepers: 3
  --High Score Enable: 1
  --Novice Animal Speed: 99 (Default is 39)
  --Expert Animal Speed: 99 (Default is 30)
  --No Hit Mode: 0
  --Free Game Rate: 0
  
  
  Tips to Adjust Settings Menu:
  --Service Mode is activated using F1.
  --Use F2 to scroll down the settings list.
  --Use F5/F6 to adjust animal speed.
  --Hit F1 until returned to the active game.
  
  
  Info for Adjudication:
  --Extra lives are earned at the successful completion of the escalator stage.
  --"Point pressing" in the coconut stage is considered illegal (maximum 3 landings on top platform per stage attempt).
  
  
  Historical Background:
  Zoo Keeper (ZK) was released in 1982, and applauded for its deceptively cute charm while providing a mind-numbing challenge at the controls. Three decades later the game is still full steam ahead providing that quaint arcade charisma. ZK has traditionally been played on "default settings" which allows the player to perfect strategies and techniques for amassing huge points when jumping groups of animals- up to 30 million points! By ramping up the difficulty to "maximum," the player is forced to re-invent their long-standing strategies. Think you are good at the 30 year old competitive settings? Try stepping into the "Extreme" cage and show us what you've got!
  

Scores
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Rank	Points	Percent	Player	Date Verified	Verification Method	WolfMame Version
2ND	1,234,750	100.00%	Max Haraske	2015-06-05	TGSAP	106
3RD	757,580	61.35%	Donald Hayes	2015-06-03	TGSAP	106
4TH	220,530	17.86%	Stephen K K. Boyer	2015-05-27	TGSAP	106
5TH	102,000	8.26%	Mark Hoff	2015-05-25	TGSAP	160