Originally Posted by bensweeneyonbass

I don't always get along with Almighty Dreadlock on a social level but he's correct in this case and he is a very thorough adjudicator.

I must vote NO since this evidence video is incomplete.
@Jace Hall there seems to be a lot of dissent about Daybreak working with TG to verify KotK performances. Can you add any thoughts about this particular submission? I personally think we are doing a pretty good job adjudicating these runs per the rules defined. Thank you sir.

Perfectly said Ben. I also find myself often arguing with dream, but I really must take his side here. This is a case where you need to hate the law, not the judge. I actually agree its a stupid rule, but too bad, its not a judge/adjudicators place to decide if a law/rule is good or not. I would love to see the rule amended and allow some discretion on our part, but for the time being, the rules are the rules. I also wonder what the submitter hopes to accomplish by being so antagonistic. We welcome bluntness and disagreement here, but just pure emotional outburst of antagonism doesnt go over well anywhere.

It's clear you have a problem with people enforcing a rule that says No Exceptions. Police officers are charged with enforcing the law as they see appropriate. No police officer is going to get busted down a rank for letting someone speed 5mph over the speed limit. Police officers and TG adjudicators have way different powers. We serve TG in a way that is arguably far more scrupulous and technical even when we are asked to be reasonable as adjudicators. We aren't even really enforcing the laws here. We are obeying them.

Can a police officer look the other way when a murder is committed? No. That would be a great example of No Exceptions. Some things cannot allow exceptions. In the TG world it really is few and far between that things are ruled on with no exceptions. It really is. It is, in fact, a rarity that such a phrase is used in a set of rules. I'd actually charge other TG members to find a rule set where the phrase No Exceptions is used and compare that to the thousands of other rule sets where it is not used.

I'm very sorry that you think this is damaging to the credibility of the TG submission and adjudication process. If a police officer pulled you over for going 3mph over the speed limit would you argue that the police officer isn't doing his job right and that you deserve to be allowed to go over the speed limit? I'd hope not.

Speeding is speeding, no exceptions actually... once it goes to court and and you admit to speeding, you broke the law. No exceptions. Like murdering someone, you broke the law, no exceptions. The murder analogy is far serious, the speeding ticket... I find it more appropriate since I pretty much followed the rules by sped over 0.1 mph at the end.

Ben, I get you, you are only following the rules and saving yourself the trouble. There is nothing wrong with that, now that I am calm, I really think that its respectable. However, this doesn't get rid of the problems that the system needs me to go through getting some submissions points. It isn't as easy and expedited as you stated many pages ago about getting points. I did what others has recommended me and I am still at 0 points. The deadline is approaching really fast.

The deadline is really soon and the process doesn't immediately turn over like it would if everyone were voting on everyone's submissions.

I agree the time frame you huys have for getting these scores on the leaderboard is very slim. It's very very slim. I'm surprised how slim it is. When it comes to fairness and how the senior members know how slow the process can be at times, it's almost unfair. I am in agreement with you on this.

My beef isn't with the rules (obviously) but if I had a beef with this whole situation it would be that the announcement and time frame was far too short. It amounts to the fact that every new member gets one free submission and for the H1Z1 players who weren't able to get their submission in early they really only get that one free submission and don't have much time to gain enough points to submit again. It's not really fair but I have no control over that part of it.

I would say, though, that you should keep recording your KotK runs and keep checking your TG account daily. You may have a last minute chance to submit another run.