Dispute: Craig Gallant - Arcade - Wild Western - Points - Player: Richard Eldridge - Craig Rout Gallant

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  1. Dispute: Craig Gallant - Arcade - Wild Western - Points - Player: Richard Eldridge - Craig Rout Gallant

    07-25-2017, 09:04 AM
    Arcade - Wild Western - Points
    Track
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=927
    Rules
    Dip Switch A:
    1 = OFF
    2-3 = ON
    4-6 = OFF
    7 = ON/OFF [Screen Inversion Player 1 Side/Screen Inversion Player 2 Side]
    8 = ON/OFF [Upright/Table Top]
    Dip Switch B:
    1-8 = ON
    Dip Switch C:
    1-5 = OFF/UNUSED
    6-7 = OFF
    8 = ON/OFF [Coin System: 1 Way/2 Way]
    Note: The above Dip Switches, are not only the FACTORY DEFAULT settings, but are also the correct Twin Galaxies Tournament Settings for this title;
    Number of Sheriffs: 3
    Points for a Bonus Sheriff: 50,000 Points
    Year Display: On
    Player Name
    Richard Eldridge
    Original Adjudication
    N/A
    Verification Method
    Referee
    Verification Date
    1983-08-05
    Disputed Score
    1099900 (Rank 1)
    Disputed By
    d3scride
    Dispute Evidence / Rationale
    There's a well documented thread that exists proving the top score is bogus. The current second place score is the max possible score attainable for this track. Thread source: https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...t=wild+western
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  2. 07-25-2017, 11:06 AM
    The thread does indeed talk about whether this score is valid or not but unfortunately the video showing that the game does not roll over is no longer available. I would need to see some other solid video proof that the score does indeed max out with no rollover.
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  3. 07-25-2017, 12:08 PM
    Hopefully he still has the footage
    @SanTe
  4. 07-25-2017, 04:14 PM
    I'll let Chris Mansfield know that this has been brought up and he will provide the video evidence needed.

    I'm voting YES this score isn't a valid score. The game maxes at 999,900.
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  5. 07-26-2017, 01:26 AM
    Two questions:

    1) The score was accepted in a TG era in which it was permissible to utilise multiple credits under some circumstances. The rules were added in the late 1990s/early 2000s. Was this score legitimate under multiple credits rules?
    2) Manufacturers do make revisions during production so while there is one PCB which has a cap, why would that mean that all PCBs have a cap?
    Lots of 1sts to be surpassed: what are you waiting for? Play the game, submit the score...
  6. 07-29-2017, 10:44 AM
    I heard back from Chris, he is aware of the challenge and I'll leave it at that.
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  7. 07-29-2017, 11:58 AM
    The game maxes at 999,900.
    I'm wondering if the old score is actually a max out, but there was a typo committed? I mean, the odd's of him making up a score that has the same last 5 digits as a max out are pretty extraordinary.
    I also wonder if it might have been a max out with a 100K bonus at the end...somehow?

    Pure thinking out aloud speculation on my part of course.

    I have a vague memory that Chris put his footage up on YT years ago. I'm sure I watched his max out gameplay somewhere?


    john

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  8. 07-30-2017, 06:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax View Post
    Two questions:2) Manufacturers do make revisions during production so while there is one PCB which has a cap, why would that mean that all PCBs have a cap?
    I can confirm that both ROMsets documented in MAME max at 999,900.

    I can also confirm that this is literally the worst video game ever.


    Quote Originally Posted by lexmark View Post
    I also wonder if it might have been a max out with a 100K bonus at the end...somehow?.
    My guess would be that he counted bonuses (they come in increments of 10k or 20k) after the max was reached, figuring he could reliably add that to his score. ("I got up to 999,900 then shot the coin 5 out of 5 times after that, so I know I got at least 1,099,900")

    I also note that he had a score of 803,900 listed in Joystik:

    http://www.slither-gdi.net/Joystik-DEC-83.jpg
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  9. 08-13-2017, 07:19 AM
    This score was accepted as the world record back in 2011. We read it on the show at that time. Otherwise if it wasn't number one we would have not read it. I think when Jace got the database, old TG already removed score from the "public view" of the database, and when new TG got the database working again,it is showing up as a ghost, old data or something not in the right spot.
    Cause here is video proof that TG claimed it as a WR back in 2011. So that 1983 score was not displaying on the website in 2011.
    The video is below as well.
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