Dispute: John McAllister - Atari 2600 / VCS - Skiing - NTSC - Game 03, Difficulty BB [Fastest Time] - Player: Todd Rogers - Score: 27.51

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  1. Dispute: John McAllister - Atari 2600 / VCS - Skiing - NTSC - Game 03, Difficulty BB [Fastest Time] - Player: Todd Rogers - Score: 27.51

    08-16-2017, 04:02 PM
    Atari 2600 / VCS - Skiing - NTSC - Game 03, Difficulty BB [Fastest Time]
    Track
    https://www.twingalaxies.com/scores.php?scores=2146
    Rules
    Default Settings
    Player Name
    Todd Rogers
    Original Adjudication
    N/A
    Verification Method
    Referee
    Verification Date
    2001-05-12
    Disputed Score
    27.51 (Rank 1)
    Disputed By
    redelf
    Dispute Evidence / Rationale
    Time was done using a trick with the A/B difficulty switches. Time can't be done without this trick. Video evidence is from this video.

    https://www.twingalaxies.com/showthre...4-glen-sampson
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  2. 08-16-2017, 05:29 PM
    This one I concur with without a shadow of a doubt !!!
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  3. 08-16-2017, 05:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcade View Post
    This one I concur with without a shadow of a doubt !!!
    Yep no doubt on this, I've done the trick too, it's the only way to achieve the stated time
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  4. 08-16-2017, 10:49 PM
    First I've encountered the possibility, subscribing. :) Sounds like a good case for a score to be moved to a new track based on others' validating the tactic used to achieve a score (i.e., the score is valid but not for this rule set).
    Lots of 1sts to be surpassed: what are you waiting for? Play the game, submit the score...
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  5. 08-17-2017, 06:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Barthax View Post
    First I've encountered the possibility, subscribing. :) Sounds like a good case for a score to be moved to a new track based on others' validating the tactic used to achieve a score (i.e., the score is valid but not for this rule set).
    Yes I agree this just needs to be moved to another track.
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  6. 08-26-2017, 06:57 PM
    I disagree with you guys.

    "Move this performance to another track"? .... (A track that allows for cheating)?

    Sorry folks .... the player 'cheated' on this performance - plain and simple.

    I voted "YES".

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  7. 08-26-2017, 11:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Intellivision Master View Post
    I disagree with you guys.

    "Move this performance to another track"? .... (A track that allows for cheating)?

    Sorry folks .... the player 'cheated' on this performance - plain and simple.

    I voted "YES".
    I agree. If It's not done to rule why move it. Get rid of it. I also agree that if it wasn't done to a do-able rule then yes..it's a cheat!
    It really is that plain and simple.
    Here's the definition of "cheat" that I'm referencing ......

    act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage.

    john

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  8. 08-28-2017, 04:16 AM
    I have invited @toddrogers to join in on this one.
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  9. 08-28-2017, 04:24 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hawksett View Post
    I have invited @toddrogers to join in on this one.
    Dave, quick procedural question. When a dispute is started, does the system automatically notify a gamer that his/her score is being disputed? If not, it would be good to add that feature. A gamer may not even be aware that a dispute has started. For now, tagging the player as you did here, is a great way to insure that the player knows about the dispute and can provide evidence if they wish.
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  10. 08-28-2017, 04:28 AM
    A good question. Currently they do not. We will discuss and come back with a proper answer.
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