Dispute: Jeremy Young - Arcade - Donkey Kong - Points [Hammer Allowed] - Player: Billy L Mitchell - Score: 1,062,800

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  1. 11-01-2019, 06:29 PM
    I know, it’s Friday night, I should be out having fun, but I have to wait on a few family errands. While waiting, I wanted to follow up on that CGEUK 2005 poster to see what it said about Mitchell as an introduction to a new UK audience.

    First and foremost, I have to extend a big thanks (which I’ve neglected to do previously) to Paul Dean @ CAGDC and acknowledge the wonder of the Internet Archive (Wayback Machine). Dean is a prolific documentarian, and he has proven time and time again that “things get lost on the Internet.” With his thorough review of news events at CAGDC, he’s preserved hyperlinks that have long disappeared from Google search results. Take these hyperlinks, and very often the Internet Archive has captured the original page. This has proven to be the only way to search the old TG - unfortunately, a lot of the older content in the current iteration of the site has disappeared through migrations, or it’s simply unrecoverable from a hyperlink perspective.

    Now, to frame the post, a reminder about Mitchell’s incredible claim from the Billy Mitchell Evidence Package:


    “When it comes to score submissions, Billy Mitchell holds himself to a high standard. Mitchell only submits scores performed at live events under proper adjudication. Mitchell has never submitted a score via video tape.” (page 6).

    “The King of Kong movie totally falsifies the narrative that Mitchell submitted the 1,047,200 performance…Robert Mruczek, the only person that contends the score was submitted, has conflicting testimony, and doesn’t tell a straight story. His story about Mitchell shipping him the tape is falsified.” (page 12)

    William “Billy” Mitchell Statement: “I have never, under any circumstances submitted a video taped world record. I only submit scores done live, in public venues, under proper adjudication…During the Twin Galaxies investigation, in early March [2018], I explained to Jace Hall that I never submitted the 1,047,200 performance.” (page 17)

    Pretty strong stuff that serves as an outrageous and insulting example of gaslighting. And I know - we long ago debunked this senseless claim. We raised hell, and put a prop under it. We’re well beyond the shadow of a doubt - we’re standing in blazing sunlight here.

    But after coming across this, I had to post it for public transparency and posterity. It comes from a Twin Galaxies article entitled, “Billy Mitchell Creates More Memorabilia to Document Video Game and Pinball History” (30 August 2006). The article outlines Mitchell’s passion for creating collectables like posters. “People will be playing video games and pinball for hundreds of years to come,” says Mitchell, ”so I want to leave historic memorabilia to commemorate what we did in our own time to show future generations that our contribution to the heritage of electronic gaming was significant.” The article includes a comprehensive archive of posters for the reader to sample. One poster I found particularly striking was presented on March 4, 2006 as part of “Twin Galaxies Coronation Day.”

    Attachment 99507

    The original link is here:


    1,047,200 score? Check

    Special ceremony held at Rickey's Restaurant in Hollywood, Florida, where Mitchell works? Check

    Twin Galaxies-recognized world record? Check

    Verified through video tape submission? Check

    Award conferred to Billy Mitchell? Check

    Recognition by Walter Day? Check

    Limited 5 poster edition? Check

    So yeah, there you go - that’s how Mitchell debunks TG’s findings and restores his credibility.

    Final observation: if you go to the original link for the evidence package, Mitchell’s document is called “Billy Mitchell Evidence Package (First)”

    Do you think we’ll ever see a (Second)?
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    Last edited by Jace Hall; 06-27-2020 at 02:14 PM.
  2. 06-27-2020, 02:22 PM
    On Friday June 26,2020, Twin Galaxies' formally responded to Mr. Mitchell's opposition filing to our Anti-Slapp motion.

    Please find all the documents, details and evidence provided within the publicly available filings here, as well as Mr. Mitchell's 2nd demand letter which specifically describes what body of evidence was used to justify Mr. Mitchell's score reinstatement by other record keeping organizations (this letter is attached to this posting as images below for convenience):


    As previously stated, it is Twin Galaxies policy to always make best efforts to conduct public and transparent discourse on any evidentiary matter concerning a dispute in question. So we provided everything concerning the matter here for review and informative benefit to the public discourse regarding the dispute claim. As always, all new and compelling evidence is more than welcome to be accepted and considered in the continuous search for facts and applicable historical data around any score performance.

    As such, we feel that it is only fair and appropriate as well as in the public interest for us to also include the official Twin Galaxies formal response to the matter in this dispute thread, which are doing now.

    In reviewing the material, please note a few items:

    1.) Twin Galaxies is always interested in receiving relevant and compelling evidence for any dispute claim discussion. Even if a dispute has been resolved to a definitive outcome supported by incontrovertible evidence by reasonable measure, Twin Galaxies understands that it is always theoretically possible for new discoveries to be made, and welcomes those new discoveries.

    It is not necessary to hire lawyers and threaten Twin Galaxies out of the blue to get it to review and consider relevant new evidence - all anyone has to do is simply reach out and directly request an opportunity to present the information.

    2.) Twin Galaxies would like to thank the gaming community and the participating public at large for their involvement, support and significant contributions to this entire ongoing matter. We do understand that there may be some historic wounds associated with this specific dispute, the various people involved, and the potential ramifications of the matter. We apologize for any discomfort that this dispute claim process may continue to inadvertently raise and want to express our deep appreciation for everyone's patience and understanding in this matter. It's not easy, but unfortunately it is necessary.

    As our community knows, the new era and ownership of Twin Galaxies today is very different from the old previous ownership and there is no ongoing association or relationship between the new ownership and the old ownership.

    Now while the previous ownership may have made some missteps which the new ownership continues to work through step-by-step over time in great detail to address those items with the community's help, it is important to understand that despite the historic challenges we must face we still wholeheartedly believe in the core vision and full potential of Twin Galaxies' fundamental mission to support increased recognition opportunities for all people who participate in the activity of playing video games. With the help and support of the community, we will continue to work toward that goal.

    3.) With the formal response from Twin Galaxies to Mr. Mitchell's opposition motion being filed and posted to this dispute thread, we are once again closing the dispute thread at this time to avoid clutter.

    We continue to maintain a separate public forum thread for further unofficial discussion of the subject to continue if desired. It can be found here:


    Below please find Mr. Mitchell's second demand letter:
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  4. 07-01-2020, 02:14 AM
    From Pineiro declaration located here:

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