Dispute: Jeremy Young - Arcade - Donkey Kong - Points [Hammer Allowed] - Player: Billy L Mitchell - Score: 1,062,800


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  1. 09-16-2019, 09:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by datagod View Post
    This dispute thread isn't a safe place for people to come and bash Billy.

    I know that there are lots of weak-minded people out there that can only act in the crowd the only feel safe and numbers. They never express their true opinions by themselves they only do it in an area with like-minded folks. That is what I find that this dispute has turned into.

    I have kept my quiet for quite some time. I may have made one or two comments here and there. But not like the last time that this dispute was active.
    I was contacted recently by a friend of Billy Mitchell and a good friend of mine I might add. My friendship with people does not revolve around Donkey Kong scores. It revolves around how those people treat me directly. My experiences with these people is varied and I judge them personally.

    Anyway back to my point this friend contacted me and said that he appreciated the way I am responding to certain people on this forum that are only here to bash Billy. I will tell you that in Walters affidavit or whatever it is that he allegedly signed he said that team Billy didn't want to come here and respond originally because it was a toxic environment where people were just waiting to pounce on him.

    At first when I read that I thought that was silly. I thought that was ridiculous. But now that I've been quiet on here and just politely reading I can see exactly their point.

    As I've stated in the past I'm not here to defend Billy or defend his scores quite frankly I'm not qualified to do that. I have my own opinion and I think I made it clear before and I believe there was something behind the scenes something to do with the movie that the tapes were fake the scores were fake but it was all in the name of entertainment and possibly got out of hand etcetera etcetera.

    I don't care about that honestly I don't. But I do care how we treat each other. The people coming into this form for the soul sake of bashing Billy has got to stop. People come here with zero credibility. They've never taken part in Twin Galaxies since it's rebirth all the sudden they show up in droves with their torches ready to burn Billy.

    I must say I have never seen greater bunch of jealous nerds in my life. And yes I'm a nerd. I'm a geek. Those words don't hurt me. But to see people that are so jealous of Billy Mitchell's Fame and his ability to promote himself, his ability whether you like it or not whether you consider it corrupt good evil whatever he did what he set out to do. He made a name for himself he got famous for it he's been in movies he's married to an actual real live woman. A very nice lady Evelyn is so nice.

    And there are many people out there who think that their quest for happiness revolves around them getting good at a video game.

    Well I'm sorry folks it takes a lot more than being good at a game to become famous. People have to be interested in the story and interested in the person. It takes charisma. Billy has all that. It's quite clear. Is he a villain? Sure. But we knew that already.

    What about us? How we treat each other in here says volumes about what Twin Galaxies is all about. Has it really come down to a place to have weekly witch hunts? A place where you can just come into a forum pick somebody and rip them to absolute shreds for weeks on end? People here talking about suing each other for defamation this slander that libel this libel that.

    Get over it people.that isn't all I'm going to say but it is all I'm going to say tonight. It's 4 a.m. in Subarctica and I have work to do.
    My original post was voice-to-text which needed some cleanup.

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  2. 09-16-2019, 10:21 PM
    I know this is the portion of the thread in which the lapdog goes full ******, trying to prove he's a big "datadog", with great jaws capable of delivering lethal gigabytes, in spite of the fact that everybody knows he's just a little lapdog, and the only thing great is the stamina of his tongue, as it licks the asses of the heroes he worships.

    So, please allow me this brief interjection, just to renew the call for Mr Hall to release the Pac Man footage.

    Y'all can get back to whipping the cur, now. Have fun.
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  3. 09-16-2019, 10:38 PM
    I think the majority of people coming here, can easily distinguish the facts as of now, and the bashing.
    It's too easy to say "hater" to someone that present's findings/debunks facts, because another nail was put in the coffin.
  4. 09-16-2019, 10:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by datagod View Post
    This dispute thread isn't a safe place for people to come and bash Billy. I know that there are lots of weak-minded people out there that can only act in the crowd the only feel safe and numbers. They never express their true opinions by themselves they only do it in an area with like-mindedthat is what I find that this dispute has turned into. I have kept my quiet for quite some time. I may have made one or two comments here and there. But not like the last time that this dispute was active.I was contacted recently by a friend of Billy Mitchell and a good friend of mine I might add. My friendship with people does not revolve around Donkey Kong scores. It revolves around how those people treat me directly. My experiences with these people is varied and I judge them personally.anyway back to my point this friend contacted me and said that he appreciated the way I am responding to certain people on this forum we're only here to bash Billy. I will tell you that in Walters affidavit or whatever it is that he allegedly signed he said that team Billy didn't want to come here and respond originally because it was a toxic environment where people were just waiting to pounce onat first when I read that I thought that was silly. I thought that was ridiculous. But now that I've been quiet on here and just politely reading I can see exactly their point.as I've stated in the past I'm not here to defend Billy or defend his scores quite frankly I'm not qualified to do that. I have my own opinion and I think I made it clear before and I believe there was something behind the scenes something to do with the movie that the tapes were fake the scores were fake but it was all in the name of entertainment and possibly got out of hand etcetera etcetera. I don't care about that honestly I don't.But I do care how we treat each other. The people coming into this form for the soul sake of bashing Billy has got to stop. People come here with zero credibility. They've never taken part in Twin Galaxies and four years although although all the sudden they show up in droves with their torches ready to burn Billie.I must say I have never seen greater bunch of jealous nerds in my life. And yes I'm a nerd. I'm a geek. Those words don't hurt me. But to see people that are so jealous of Billy Mitchell's Fame his ability to promote himself his ability whether you like it or not whether you consider it corrupt good evil whatever he did what he set out to do. He made a name for himself he got famous for it he's been in movies he's married to an actual real live woman. A very nice lady Evelyn is so nice. And there are many people out there who think that their quest for happiness revolves around them getting good at a video game.well I'm sorry folks it takes a lot more than being good at a game to become famous. People have to be interested in the story and interested in the person. It takes charisma. Billy has all that. It's quite clear. Is he a villain? Sure.But how we treat each other in here says volumes about what Twin Galaxies is all about. Has it really come down to a witch Hunt place? a place where you can just come into a forum pick somebody and rip them to absolute shreds for weeks on end?people here talking about suing each other for defamation this slander that libel this libel that. Get over it people.that isn't all I'm going to say but it is all I'm going to say tonight. It's 4 a.m. in subarctic and I have work to do.
    ok thats good u judge by how he treats u but what about how he treats others? does that make no difference to u? as long as he treats u ok then i guess it doesnt matter what he does to others

    i read this thread and it looks like he has definitly hurt a bunch of people with what he did and said it does not look like peple are jealus

    but u dont care aebout that as long as he treats u ok and u stand up for him if people treat him bad

    why dont u think of other people too and not just how billy treats u
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  5. 09-17-2019, 03:51 AM
    Toxicity is overblown. It's adversarial at times, but I'm not sure that would shock anyone given what's been said outside TG about people here, and what ends up here in the dispute review. Besides, it's not like the proposed legal action is one big sharing circle. If Mitchell thinks this is bad, he may have forgotten that court systems are adversarial by design.

    Anyone is welcome to post evidence in favour of Mitchell's claims. Besides, it's not like we're talking about some distant event in the far past. We're talking about world records from roughly 2005-2010, and emphatic statements from various actors about the direct feed set-up to capture the gameplay. What was stated simply at the outset by Robert Childs has proven exceedingly difficult to replicate, to the point that we've seen shifting statements about level of involvement and fading recollection of the set up. Again, apparently the set-up was so straight-forward and simple to do it was done three times with minimal muss. We saw an original discolored receipt for the Two-Bit converter to prove that was used, for crying out loud.

    We have acted with incredulity towards many recent statements, yes. Why not? Especially when they fly in the face of previous statements, posts, and interviews. People, for example, have speculated that Walter Day simply signed a statement without thoroughly understanding its contents. Perhaps that happened, but the TG community he established doesn't know any different right now. Hearing reports from Mitchell that he was considering providing an explanation, but decided not too because it's "too toxic" doesn't wash. Walter Day still has an account here. He will always be welcomed here and received with respect. We're members of a community that he built, starting back in the 80s when he was the only adult in the room saying what we were doing, and what we wanted to do, had value, and he will always be honored for that. So if Mitchell is afraid of "toxicity," then please have Walter Day come directly.

    But whatever happens, whatever "adjustments" are being made to stories and memories, any legal action will be taking into account the credibility of witnesses. Last time I checked, people with changing stories about basic events are rarely viewed as credible.
  6. 09-17-2019, 04:44 AM
    [QUOTE=datagod;1054354]But I do care how we treat each other./QUOTE]

    The constant gaslighting from the get go from Team Billy is way more problematic and toxic than anything I've seen in this thread from new or old members.

    I can't speak to how Billy treats individuals as I don't know him. But as a member of this community, I can speak to the fact that he treats this community as a whole as nothing more than a footstool to stand on top of. In comparison, Walter has achieved a good amount of fame from TG and I've never once felt stepped on by him. It's possible to do it without trampling everyone on the way up.

    I know Billy is your friend, but unless you've sent the same message to him asking him to stop gaslighting in addition to all of the other problematic things he's doing/saying about the community and individuals in it, then your above statement isn't much more than hot air.
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  7. 09-17-2019, 04:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock View Post
    I know this is the portion of the thread in which the lapdog goes full ******, trying to prove he's a big "datadog", with great jaws capable of delivering lethal gigabytes, in spite of the fact that everybody knows he's just a little lapdog, and the only thing great is the stamina of his tongue, as it licks the asses of the heroes he worships.

    So, please allow me this brief interjection, just to renew the call for Mr Hall to release the Pac Man footage.

    Y'all can get back to whipping the cur, now. Have fun.
    Though I would've phrased it very differently, I agree with the message of reopening the other scores. In billy's own document they explain how donkey kong junior had the mame transition somehow thinking that helped their case (can i take a break to laugh again?). Now that billy's own team has provided additional evidence that his donkey kong junior score was done on mame, well if the same document that reopened the donkey kong score also referenced dk jr it seems relevant to reopen that. if the excuse is "well he's suing about donkey kong", i say "not true", he's suing about ALL his scores especailly pacman. the same logic used to reopen this should reopen the others as well

    right now people only know he played "donkey kong not on original arcade" if he really wants to push, then allow him to do so, reopen the other scores as well and allow his team to humilate him as they inadvertadently show the issues with not just donkey kong but his other scores as well. And further, why are his coconspirators getting away with it? shutting the referees he improperly entered the score have their own involvement equally well publicized?

    if he wants to make a big deal about this and talk about all his scores, then I say let him.
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  8. 09-17-2019, 04:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Almighty Dreadlock View Post
    I know this is the portion of the thread in which ****** ****
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  9. 09-17-2019, 04:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Muerto View Post
    I think the majority of people coming here, can easily distinguish the facts as of now, and the bashing.
    It's too easy to say "hater" to someone that present's findings/debunks facts, because another nail was put in the coffin.
    Presenting findings / facts is exacty what this forum is for. Presenting findings / facts is not bashing. It is all the charged emotional outbursts and direct personal attacks that get on my nerves.

    People can hate all they want. I just wish we were all more civilized.
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  10. 09-17-2019, 04:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Damien Thorn View Post
    ok thats good u judge by how he treats u but what about how he treats others? does that make no difference to u? as long as he treats u ok then i guess it doesnt matter what he does to others i read this thread and it looks like he has definitly hurt a bunch of people with what he did and said it does not look like peple are jealus
    but u dont care aebout that as long as he treats u ok and u stand up for him if people treat him bad
    why dont u think of other people too and not just how billy treats u
    If I had a friend that I met in real life, and Billy mistreated that friend, I would speak to Billy about it directly, like an adult.

    Not everyone likes RTM, but I have met him several times at Funspot tournaments and always enjoyed my conversations with him. I never get into the "RTM Bashing" that goes on here because of that.

    And you make a good point possibly without realizing it: "I read this thread and it looks like...."

    Exactly. You read a post on the internet and are now deciding to act a certain way. Well I say that real life interactions are 1000x more meaningful than internet discussions. If I met you in real life your concerns would have more weight. As it is, I only know you as the mysterious person who famously remixed a PSP video, adding the now famous clown music -- which was hilarious.

    As for your outrage over my not being outraged...I dont' buy it. Just more internet rhetoric.

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