Originally Posted by TWIN GALAXIES

Tapes are now in hand.

Attachment 50462

I trust that the videocassette, labelled "② 6 HR PERFECT GAME PAC MAN", is going to be studied assiduously, with a view toward removing the obviously bogus record being disputed, here.

The videocassette labelled "① Perfect Pac Man Patterns" seems to be irrelevant, at this time, but may contain some useful information.

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The end of the recording is missing and always has been... hence the 5:30:00.00 estimated time.

The proof is in the photo!! You can't use a camcorder to record 6 hours of HQ video on a T-120 tape!!

Originally Posted by ***PL***

The proof is in the photo!! You can't use a camcorder to record 6 hours of HQ video on a T-120 tape!!

Not necessarily true. You can have the VCR on a SLP setting (super long play), and get up to 6 hours of tape easily.

Still, the speed run does remain suspicious being an exact "hours and a half" interval...

Originally Posted by Marcade

Not necessarily true. You can have the VCR on a SLP setting (super long play), and get up to 6 hours of tape easily.

Still, the speed run does remain suspicious being an exact "hours and a half" interval...

Yes, there are 3 recording modes, so a T-120 tape will record roughly (2 hrs in common SP mode, 4 hrs in LP mode, 6 hrs in rarer EP/SLP mode). However...

It is well documented that the performance was recorded using a CAMCORDER, NOT A VCR, so chances are unless Funspot had a very expensive professional camcorder (and why would they?), EP/SLP was not available as a third and slowest record speed option.

Many camcorder of the earlier eras used pass-through so you would have the cables out from the camera live as it was shooting out to a car so it could record longer running items and/or get it to a more handy format quicker. I definitely used that technique for film projects back in the 90s. Not saying that's what was done here, just that it was common enough that you can't use that argument in this case.

Originally Posted by gavv

Many camcorder of the earlier eras used pass-through so you would have the cables out from the camera live as it was shooting out to a car so it could record longer running items and/or get it to a more handy format quicker. I definitely used that technique for film projects back in the 90s. Not saying that's what was done here, just that it was common enough that you can't use that argument in this case.

Gah hate typing on the phone...'vcr' instead of 'car' above

Here Some VHS Tape Information


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHS

Common tape lengths

Tape label(nominal length in minutes)	Tape length	Rec. time (NTSC)	Rec. time (PAL)
m	ft	SP	LP	EP/SLP	SP	LP
NTSC market
T-20	44	145	22 min	44 min	66 min (1h 06)	31.5 min	63 min
T-30 (typical VHS-C)	63	207	31.5 min	63 min (1h 03)	95 min (1h 35)	45 min	90 min (1h 30)
T-45	94	310	47 min	94 min (1h 34)	142 min (2h 22)	67 min (1h 07)	135 min (2h 15)
T-60	126	412	63 min (1h 03)	126 min (2h 06)	188 min (3h 08)	89 min (1h 29)	179 min (2h 59)
T-90	186	610	93 min (1h 33)	186 min (3h 06)	279 min (4h 39)	132 min (2h 12)	265 min (4h 25)
T-120 / DF240	247	811	124 min (2h 04)	247 min (4h 07)	371 min (6h 11)	176 min (2h 56)	352 min (5h 52)
T-140	287.5	943	144 min (2h 24)	287 min (4h 47)	431 min (7h 11)	204.5 min (3h 24.5)	404.5 min (6h 49.5)
T-150 / DF300	316.5	1040	158 min (2h 38)	316 min (5h 16)	475 min (7h 55)	226 min (3h 46)	452 min (7h 32)
T-160	328	1075	164 min (2h 44)	327 min (5h 27)	491 min (8h 11)	233 min (3h 53)	467 min (7h 47)
T-180 / DF-360	369	1210	184 min (3h 04)	369 min (6h 09)	553 min (9h 13)	263 min (4h 23)	526 min (8h 46)
T-200	410	1345	205 min (3h 25)	410 min (6h 50)	615 min (10h 15)	292 min (4h 52)	584 min (9h 44)
T-210 / DF420	433	1420	216 min (3h 36)	433 min (7h 13)	649 min (10h 49)	308 min (5h 08)	617 min (10h 17)
T-240 / DF480	500	1640	250 min (4h 10)	500 min (8h 20)	749 min (12h 29)	356 min (5h 56)	712 min (11h 52)
PAL market
E-30 (typical VHS-C)	45	148	22.5 min	45 min	68 min (1h 08)	32 min	64 min (1h 04)
E-60	88	290	44 min	88 min (1h 28)	133 min (2h 13)	63 min (1h 03)	126 min (2h 06)
E-90	131	429	65 min (1h 05)	131 min (2h 11)	196 min (3h 16)	93 min (1h 33)	186 min (3h 06)
E-120	174	570	87 min (1h 27)	174 min (2h 54)	260 min (4h 20)	124 min (2h 04)	248 min (4h 08)
E-150	216	609	108 min (1h 49)	227 min (3h 37)	324 min (5h 24)	154 min (2h 34)	308 min (5h 08)
E-180	259	849	129 min (2h 09)	259 min (4h 18)	388 min (6h 28)	184 min (3h 04)	369 min (6h 09)
E-195	279	915	139 min (2h 19)	279 min (4h 39)	418 min (6h 58)	199 min (3h 19)	397 min (6h 37)
E-200	289	935	144 min (2h 24)	284 min (4h 44)	428 min (7h 08)	204 min (3h 24)	405 min (6h 45)
E-210	304	998	152 min (2h 32)	304 min (5h 04)	456 min (7h 36)	217 min (3h 37)	433 min (7h 13)
E-240	348	1142	174 min (2h 54)	348 min (5h 48)	522 min (8h 42)	248 min (4h 08)	496 min (8h 16)
E-270	392	1295	196 min (3h 16)	392 min (6h 32)	589 min (9h 49)	279 min (4h 39)	559 min (9h 19)
E-300	435	1427	217 min (3h 37)	435 min (7h 15)	652 min (10h 52)	310 min (5h 10)	620 min (10h 20)

Originally Posted by gavv

Many camcorder of the earlier eras used pass-through so you would have the cables out from the camera live as it was shooting out to a car so it could record longer running items and/or get it to a more handy format quicker. I definitely used that technique for film projects back in the 90s. Not saying that's what was done here, just that it was common enough that you can't use that argument in this case.

Yup...This is what i did with my older submissions with my SONY Handicam. My Hi8 cassettes were normally up to 2 hours of footage, so if I went longer, I would pass through directly, and record to VCR directly.