Off-topic-post-from-DK-Dispute-Thread-03

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    09-12-2019, 11:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sprinter461 View Post
    I'm not sure how I turned my back on my legacy. Pretty sure I embraced it. If I turned my back on it, no way the doc gets made. During Man vs Snake, How do you think Billy, Dwayne, Enrico etc ended up in the doc? The doc was 100% about me. And nobody else. And I didn't want it to be. I wanted it to be about Nibbler. I wanted it to be about the billion. I wanted it to be about marathoning. I did NOT want it to be like KoK. I didn't want people excluded. Ask the producers. Ask Tim and Andy. Every time Elijah Hayter played, every time Rick Carter played... I made sure Tim and Andy were 100% aware. I called them. I sent them stream links etc. I did everything in my power to get everybody involved. But Tim and Andy told THEIR story... as film makers... the story they saw, were interested in, and wanted to tell. I had no control.

    You think I'm happy this happened? You think I take pleasure in any of this? It makes me fucking sick! Billy and Walter were nice to me. To my face. Always. Behind my back? You'd be surprised. Let's just say a 100% factual account of the U.S. National Video Game Team bus trip in the summer of 1983 has never been accurately told. That's another story, for another time. There's far more to my "legacy" from my time in the 80's than you know right now. And most of it you know from Walter and Billy's accounts, and retelling. As you can see from this "evidence" they shared... their stories... the math doesn't add up a lot more times than you realize. Especially if you were there and knew the truth. But it's funny, when your version, the actual details don't line up with Walter and Billy's fantasized revisionist version of some of the storys... you are called a liar. You are labeled as jealous etc. So eventually you just say screw all this and walk away. Until a documentary crew comes and finds you decades later... so please, don't speak on my legacy. Not when you don't have the full story. Not when you can't stop and consider that perhaps not everything you think you know was real, and happened the way it was presented to you.

    Your apology is hollow. I'd like to say I accept it. But I can't. This isn't the first time you have apologized to me. And the previous apologies were very hollow. So I've no reason to view this one any differently. Actions speak louder than words. When your actions and words do not align, then it's all hollow to me.

    Jeff Peters is amazing. I was fortunate enough to have spent but a brief amount of time with him at Score Wars in Santa Fe back in March of 2018. Our time together was far too brief. It was one of the most enjoyable and memorable meetings I've had with anyone in recent years. As was meeting Jason Reynolds in St Louis at Mo Games Con II. There is much to add. But this is a side project. Scott and I have lives to lead and familes. And we work on this as time allows on the side. Google the team name. Look around the site. Maybe you aren't even aware of what IS there now. But there is MUCH to add. And it takes time. But like I said we are working on it... as we find time in our day to day lives to devote to it. Want an example of what I am talking about? Do some research. Look for some info on Jay Kim. Tim Collum. Scott Rogers. Share with me what you find. Then maybe you'll get a slightly better understanding of the challenge.

    As you noted, Scott and I took this upon ourselves because nobody else would do it. I have another challenge for you. Without looking at the USNVGT page right now, how many people can you name from the team? Just off your memory and knowledge of the team. Now go look at how many are listed. So the common response is, I know the the handful, the most famous members. Now ask yourself a question. Is that because the ones you don't know aren't worthy of knowing? Or is that because nobody has taken the time to even make people aware of who was honestly on the team in the first place? Several people took it upon themselves to essentinally obliterate the WikiPedia site team page.

    My hope is someday down the road, we get the site to where Scott and I envisioned it when we decided to do this. I'm hopeful at that time perhaps TG ownership will consider sharing reciprocal links with us. So that more people will get an opportunity to learn about the people that were chosen to be part of the U.S. National Video Game Team.
    i was gonna keep myself out of this argument since its so off topic, and just argue it elsewhere. but as you're talking about involving TG with the team and "several people took it up themsleves to essentialy obliterate the wikipedia page" i feel you should know the page got in trouble because of patrick pattesron himself threatening to sue people who didnt fall in line and agree with his edits and version of history -- the same accusation hurled at billy is documented on wikipedia being done by patrick. after threatening to sue others, using wikipedia for self promotion and repeatedly contententiously insulting and arguing with wikipedia admins as opposed to trying to the follow rules they really had no choice but to lock and gut the page. His vandalism of wikipedia is his own doing and he has only himself to blame for the reprecussions. This is all in the permanent transparent history of wikipedia edits, so before patrick thinks about suing me for defamantion, he'll do well to remember this is all documented.
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  2. 09-12-2019, 02:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    i was gonna keep myself out of this argument since its so off topic, and just argue it elsewhere. but as you're talking about involving TG with the team and "several people took it up themsleves to essentialy obliterate the wikipedia page" i feel you should know the page got in trouble because of patrick pattesron himself threatening to sue people who didnt fall in line and agree with his edits and version of history -- the same accusation hurled at billy is documented on wikipedia being done by patrick. after threatening to sue others, using wikipedia for self promotion and repeatedly contententiously insulting and arguing with wikipedia admins as opposed to trying to the follow rules they really had no choice but to lock and gut the page. His vandalism of wikipedia is his own doing and he has only himself to blame for the reprecussions. This is all in the permanent transparent history of wikipedia edits, so before patrick thinks about suing me for defamantion, he'll do well to remember this is all documented.
    Rudy started the Wiki edit wars. As for Scotts "edits and version of history" they were truthful and accurate. We tried to put the info on Wiki, and it kept getting vandalized. It was futile. So we went off and created the web site so we could present the accurate listing of team members there, and begin telling the story of ALL players.

    https://www.usnationalvideogameteam.com/ is the official team site.

    Per Wiki it's not locked. Hasn't been for over 2 years. In it's current state is is probably the most factually accurate as I've seen it. At least it's no longer self promoting any specific individuals. Myself I gave up on Wiki long ago. It's fairly worthless for a lot of things. This is one of them. It's a waste of time.

    As is this conversation. This will be my only post.
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  3. 09-12-2019, 03:07 PM
    Yes I remeber you felt this way. Didn’t you also have to be wiki bannex for vandalizing it to promote yourself and declare yourself notable person on the world stage. As I recall you too had to be temp banned since even after admin removed your post you definsbtky said you’d keep adding them back. That attitude left them no choice but to give you a time out

    rudy was no saint either. It was all of your fault. You were right when said several people but you left out that the several were you Rudy and Patrick
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