Post Verdict Dispute Discussion: Jeremy Young - Arcade - Donkey Kong - Points [Hammer Allowed] - Player: Billy L Mitchell - Score: 1,062,800

  1. 07-23-2020, 03:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by grinder2112 View Post
    Guinness World Records Should Stay Out of Gaming (Karl Jobst)



    Skip to 10:02 if you want the comments specifically about Billy Mitchell.
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  2. 07-23-2020, 10:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Jace Hall View Post
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    Was going to post a link to that same video. It so completely exposes Guinness for what it has become, and the absolute INSULT to professional gamers it made by reinstating Billy's disqualified records.
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  3. 07-23-2020, 11:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcade View Post
    This is all you need to know...The FACTS!!!

    Fact of the matter is, BM thinks he's a professional speaker since he does so much public speaking but he really isn't. Too many filler words, little enthusiasm, and repetitive word choice.
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  4. 07-24-2020, 02:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by FBX View Post
    Was going to post a link to that same video. It so completely exposes Guinness for what it has become, and the absolute INSULT to professional gamers it made by reinstating Billy's disqualified records.

    John Oliver clip referenced by Jobst:



    Jump cut to 12:18
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  5. 07-24-2020, 03:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by grinder2112 View Post

    Jump cut to 12:18
    Well now it all makes sense. Guinness is a total farce just in it for the money. It sounds very easily like Billy could have just paid them 15 grand to put the bogus scores back in. After all, it's income for the company.
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  6. 07-28-2020, 09:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by benasselstine View Post
    There seem to be a lot of mistakes in pre-TGSAP scores. I drilled down aimlessly after seeing the reference to Joystik Magazine and found this date discrepancy in Stargate. I recognized Ben Gold's name because I recently rewatched Chasing Ghosts so I decided to check this one score.

    The date in the magazine is April 24, 1982, and the date on the scoreboard is September 28, 1982. Not a big deal or anything but it raises more questions about the quality of the old score submissions. In this case it could be a mistake in the database, or in the info Walter sent over to Joystik, or a data entry error by the staff at Joystik, and who can really say after so much time has passed. We depend on the scoreboard to have valid data, but a full auditing against TG data published elsewhere will make it more difficult to have confidence.

    My apologies if this was already known and doesn't advance the discussion at all! I just face-palmed when I checked a single score and happened to find an error.
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    So the Joystick magazine was mine. Walter spent a day at my house copying everything down by hand. This is how he re-built the TG scoreboard in the late 90's. He copied every score from every source he could find. The scoreboard did not exist. He was re-creating it. If it was in print in a published magazine, it went into his notes.

    I'd consider he crossed up dates while writing them all down.
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  7. 07-28-2020, 10:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Streetwize View Post
    Fact of the matter is, BM thinks he's a professional speaker since he does so much public speaking but he really isn't. Too many filler words, little enthusiasm, and repetitive word choice.
    The fact of the matter is that you are not a mind reader. Claiming to know what somebody is thinking is a form of Loserthink(tm). Scott Adams speaks about it in his book Loserthink: How Untrained Brains are Ruining America. Great book.


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  8. 07-28-2020, 10:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by sprinter461 View Post
    So the Joystick magazine was mine. Walter spent a day at my house copying everything down by hand. This is how he re-built the TG scoreboard in the late 90's. He copied every score from every source he could find. The scoreboard did not exist. He was re-creating it. If it was in print in a published magazine, it went into his notes.

    I'd consider he crossed up dates while writing them all down.
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  9. 07-28-2020, 11:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Streetwize View Post
    Fact of the matter is, BM thinks he's a professional speaker since he does so much public speaking but he really isn't. Too many filler words, little enthusiasm, and repetitive word choice.
    The fact of the matter is... if I had a quarter for every time he's said that the past few decades... man I'd have bags of quarters to head to the arcade!!! ;)
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  10. 07-29-2020, 11:50 PM
    I would say "You're not going to believe this," but you totally will.

    Billy Mitchell is now issuing legal threats against Karl Jobst over his latest video. He even hired an Australian legal firm to issue the threats.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/i0hxx8/billy_mitchell_is_now_issuing_legal_threats/
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